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Old 01-04-20, 06:20 PM
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I’m joining in. Cleaning shall commence, with a build not too far off. Do these take a 26.8 post?



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Old 01-04-20, 07:08 PM
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Is it a 1980? If so, the catalogue doesn't give a seat post size.
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Looks like it. Serial #I696713
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Originally Posted by fvernon View Post
This was my spring project--bought it for next to nothing; the derailleur hanger was bent and the owner couldn't figure out why it wasn't shifting. Came with the original 1980 catalog & spec sheet, as well as a toolbox full of vintage tools and parts. It wasn't all original--looked like someone had put on a new RD and wheels in maybe '85, and I swapped a few other bits and bobs to get it to my liking. Not pictured--he had put a Jim Blackburn rack on the back, but I changed it for a NIB 1983 Jim Blackburn front lowrider I had recently run across in a thrift shop. Rides beautifully--I'll have this with me in California for Eroica in April.

1980 Miyata 912:

What size tires did you fit on your ‘80?
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My ‘79 912 takes a 26.8mm seatpost, as did later years per the catalogs that specify that dimension. I’d expect that would be true of an ‘80.

Judging from the catalog photo of the ‘80 912, 28mm tires would probably fit OK. That’s what I use on the ‘79 with fenders. I gained a bit of radial clearance since it originally had 27” tires, so that combination might not work on your 912 designed for 700C.

https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...%20Catalog.pdf
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Originally Posted by natterberry View Post
I’m joining in. Cleaning shall commence, with a build not too far off. Do these take a 26.8 post?


Suggest to measure but on a 1981 912 I'm redoing, a 26.8 diameter fits perfect. Miyata's own tubing- double butted.
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Originally Posted by crank_addict View Post
Suggest to measure but on a 1981 912 I'm redoing, a 26.8 diameter fits perfect. Miyata's own tubing- double butted.
This one is actually still Tange Champion!

I’m tempted to use this one as a modifying guinea pig. I’d love a quick, fat tired steel bike.
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Originally Posted by natterberry View Post
This one is actually still Tange Champion!

I’m tempted to use this one as a modifying guinea pig. I’d love a quick, fat tired steel bike.
My ‘79 was not a 650B conversion candidate. Clearance at the widest point of a 650B wheel (basically at a 700C rim) would only have allowed 32mm between the chain stays. But interestingly it can just fit 700x32’s, although not with fenders.

However, @gugie did a set of fantastic low-trail+ mods to the fork including center-pull posts and custom racks, transforming it into a pretty nice travel bike:


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I have an orange 1981 912. It has a 26.8mm seatpost.
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Originally Posted by norcalmike View Post
Looking at the catalog closer 79 did not come in Orange. It looks like this is a 1980.
My orange 912 has serial number J321602. My tubing sticker is different from this sticker. I also think it is a 1980 model.
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Originally Posted by supersport73 View Post
My orange 912 has serial number J321602. My tubing sticker is different from this sticker. I also think it is a 1980 model.
Pretty sure that J... means that it was made in 1981.
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Originally Posted by Dfrost View Post
Pretty sure that J... means that it was made in 1981.
correct
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
The cult is large, insidious, fairly intelligent, and mostly well-meaning. They tend to travel in small groups, chatting about triple butts and Sugino stuff. Quite often, they are heavily accessorized. They've been known to detour for food and beverages, and are not at all secretive. Some of them know and admit their problem, while others are not cognizant of the situation. Others are in denial. They tend to repair their own, and sometimes speak in code, like "barcon, bb, and 27's."

They really don't seem concerned about "what everyone else is riding," and in the summer, have bugs in their teeth. Some seem to have tolerance for some Specialized riders.

Yeah, they're out there.
Last fall I picked up a 610. I was looking for a stout bike that could take wider tires and fenders and I figured a touring style bike would fit the bill.

It is a blue 86, with a triple up front and a 6speed on the back. Umm.. Sugino cranks. I added SKS fenders, and may swap them out to fancy aluminum in the future. I put a Nitto M12 rack on the front with some rando bag - a random bag, that is. Also, I just put on an old Blackburn rear rack and polished it out to be shiny. Tires are 27 x 1-1/4.

I had intentions of swapping out a bunch but just did aero brake hoods and will leave it alone.

As far as Specialized riders, I too have an old Rockhopper MTB from the 90s

When I get enough posts, I"ll upload some photos.
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Originally Posted by natterberry View Post
I’m joining in. Cleaning shall commence, with a build not too far off. Do these take a 26.8 post?

26.6 ended up being the winner. I’m guessing it’s pinched in a bit, but it seems to fit well. A 26.8 post I ordered would not go in at all.
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What size tires did you fit on your ‘80?
I'm running 28c Panaracer Paselas right now; I think I could get a 32c tire on, as there is a good amount of frame and fork clearance, but would almost certainly be deflating to get on/off past my brake pads. And I'm not too sure a 32c tire would fit very well on my Mavic MA40 rims (which I believe are 13.5 internal), though I'd love to try a set of Gravel Kings on the bike. For now I'll probably just stick with 28c.
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Originally Posted by supersport73 View Post
I have an orange 1981 912. It has a 26.8mm seatpost.
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My orange 912 has serial number J321602. My tubing sticker is different from this sticker. I also think it is a 1980 model.
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Pretty sure that J... means that it was made in 1981.

Interesting notes for 1981 and 1982 model 912.
First manufacturer of their own produced double butted tubing and used for their own bikes.

During the transition year of 1981, some 912 production were Tange and eventually Miyata dbl butted tubes.

Also in 1981, one could purchase seperately the 912 frameset- Tange or Miyata tubed.



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Originally Posted by fvernon View Post
I'm running 28c Panaracer Paselas right now; I think I could get a 32c tire on, as there is a good amount of frame and fork clearance, but would almost certainly be deflating to get on/off past my brake pads. And I'm not too sure a 32c tire would fit very well on my Mavic MA40 rims (which I believe are 13.5 internal), though I'd love to try a set of Gravel Kings on the bike. For now I'll probably just stick with 28c.
Awesome, thank you. Vittoria makes their Corsa 2.0 in 30. May give those a shot.
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Awesome, thank you. Vittoria makes their Corsa 2.0 in 30. May give those a shot.
Oh good idea, if I wanted more of a race-focused tire that'd be a smart choice. I can definitely see a 30c tire fitting without an issue; keep me posted with how they work out!
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I'll chime in... Because I am still not sure if I like this bike It's a tad too big I am afraid (63 cm, normally I have 60-62 cm).

It's a Koga Miyata Granlux from 1995. The tubes are FM-1 triple butted "oval". I'll see if I can look up a serialnumber.

It was originally fitted with Campagnolo Mirage, 2*8. I've refitted it with shimano stuff I have laying around because the hoods on the campa brakes were "bad". And it makes replacing wheels easier for me, since I have way more shimano than campa. Sorry! :-)

I'll see if I can arrange a picture,

here is one: (not mine)

https://www.fillaritori.com/topic/23...o-athena-58cm/

I wonder how that Koga translates to the Miyata "numbers". As in, 620, 710 or what have you.
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I'll chime in... Because I am still not sure if I like this bike It's a tad too big I am afraid (63 cm, normally I have 60-62 cm).

It's a Koga Miyata Granlux from 1995. The tubes are FM-1 triple butted "oval". I'll see if I can look up a serialnumber.

It was originally fitted with Campagnolo Mirage, 2*8. I've refitted it with shimano stuff I have laying around because the hoods on the campa brakes were "bad". And it makes replacing wheels easier for me, since I have way more shimano than campa. Sorry! :-)

I'll see if I can arrange a picture,

here is one: (not mine)

https://www.fillaritori.com/topic/23...o-athena-58cm/

I wonder how that Koga translates to the Miyata "numbers". As in, 620, 710 or what have you.
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Yeah, that's the bike.

Serialnumber is on the headtube, right above the fork.
it's 63WW05054
63 is it's height, W COULD stand for 1994 (would not suprise me).
I have no idea what the other W means, 05 could be May? ...
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Oh good idea, if I wanted more of a race-focused tire that'd be a smart choice. I can definitely see a 30c tire fitting without an issue; keep me posted with how they work out!
I ended up going GK 28’s. I like the ride though!


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Originally Posted by djtyres View Post
Just was wondering how big the Miyata cult is.
It seems there are a few people who have them and everyone who has one seems to love it to death.
I am new to the cult with my 1980's One Ten and my riding partner has a 710 touring bike.

What else is out there in this forum?
I bought a beige Miyata 710 in 1982 for $410. I had the bike for 28 years and probably rode it a good 15,000 miles before I finally said farewell to it. The frame geometry is perfecto and the 53 tooth chainring, well, they don't make 'em like they used to is all I can say.
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Just in case anyone didn't know where you could find scans of the old Miyata catalogs, here they are: https://www.ragandbone.ca/Miyata/miyata_selector.html . Big Thanks to Rag & Bone for continuing to host these on their site!
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Comparing a 1000 to a modern steel touring bike

Do any of the Miyata 1000 owners here (whose bikes are the XL category) have any significant experience riding a modern steel touring bike?
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