Frame IDing
 

pick this up today, looks like the orignal color was a nice pink that i am going to restore
serial number is : 0G75282
It also has a M where the downtube lug is.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...oy22/004-1.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...oy22/006-2.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...oy22/005-2.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...oboy22/008.jpg

more pictures if needed.

I may be wrong but that looks like a Moser M to me. what kind of dropouts?

Hard to tell as is... (even with the "M")

If you can figure out what thread the frame has, that would be a huge help. Also, tube size and total weight will help things way more :)

Based on things like the location of the shifters, the fact that there are holes for 2 watercages drilled, plus that hexagonal nut, it is very unlikely that this thing started life as an italian bike. I would guess French, American or Japanese from '75 to early '90s. The lugs/headset look a tad generic, so I would suspect that it is not a terribly high end bike. If it weighs a ton, "M" could stand for "Murray"

Agreed, but with fender eyelets and no pantographed seat stay caps, doubtful.

Bottom bracket width and threading?

Nice frame. Looks Italian...

it's an odd duck: the cast-in "m" on that lug as well as the seat lug sure indicates something with IC lugs...yet it's got top-of-BB cable guide, and those DO eyelets...
was there a fork? any sign of rifling in the tubing at the BB shell? and as always: BB threading?

there was not fork unfortunatly, and not sure what the threading is right now :/
I will get the picture of the dropouts soon

Didn't Miyata have lugs similar to that in the mid-1980s? The serial number would certainly fit and make it a 1986 model. The fttings, in combination with the lack of chrome, should make it a 912, though it would have to be a repaint. Check inside the bottom bracket for six, helical ridges on the inside of the tubes. That would confirm a Miyata 912 tubeset, as opposed to Columbus, who used five, helical ridges.

I just looked at the 1982 catalog, which shows the lugs, and it is a different 'M'

http://www.miyatacatalogs.com/

No clear pictures of other years. Maybe someone has one?

I've found no helical ridges.
On the bottom of the BB pointing toward the fron of the bike has the numbers 6 8.
Also found it saying Shimano on the cable guides on tope of the bb.
As for the dropouts I can see a faint writing but cant make it out because of the paint, once I start taking it off I can read.
pictures soon as my camera batteries charge

Measure the width of the BB./ If 70mm, Italian, 68mm, English/American/Japanese, most likely

Just measured it and its 68mm, I was looking at Miyata 912 lugs and they were different.