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Old 10-21-09, 11:51 AM
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Quick Route to Rim Swap

Let me see if I have this correct about a rim swap I'd like to do:

I have Westrick rim and an Endrick rim I'd like to swap. The AW hub and spokes will remain the same and the number of spoke holes in the rims are obviously the same. I want to swap out the Endrick rim and put the Westrick in.

1. line up the valve holes in the rims
2. tape the empty rim to the full one (does it matter which side the empty rim goes on drive vs non drive?)
3. transfer the spokes one at a time over to the empty rim. The spokes just move over to the same hole in the other rim.
4. Tighten and true


have I missed anything?
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Old 10-21-09, 11:53 AM
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That's it, as long as the rim diameters are the same so that the spokes are the right length.
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I have done it several times with 100% success.
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It'll probably work out that way. If both rims have right and left side spokes, you have to be sure they're arranged the same way; that is, if the hole in front of the valve hole is on the same side of both rims, you're fine. If they're reversed, then the trick you describe won't work.

If you are doing this, loosen all the spokes before you start. Otherwise the spokes on the farther flange won't reach your rim.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
That's it, as long as the rim diameters are the same so that the spokes are the right length.
Are they the same? I thought the Endrick rim and the Westrick rim were slightly different diameters, due to the raised center of the Westrick Rim.
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Old 10-21-09, 03:50 PM
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I've done that, and snugged up the spokes all about the same, then straight to LBS for them to be trued and tensioned. Save a ton on labor, and still get a good build.
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Easy swap...

I have done this rim swap several times and find that it is a snap to complete while sitting right in front of the TV. I loosen all spokes several turns until I can see about about 1/8" to 1/4" of spoke thread. Now, select the first spoke closest to the valve hole and remove the nipple. Insert the spoke into the correct hold closest to the valve(could be just before or just after depending on how the drive side and non-drive side spoke holes are arranged). Thread the nipple into place leaving the 1/8" to "1/4" of exposed spoke thread.

Move to the next spoke and repeat until you have transferred every spoke to the new rim.

Now thread all the spokes until the spoke thread just disappears. You are now ready to true and dish your wheel.

And truing wheels is not a difficult thing to do at all. As the lead mechanic at our Bicycles for Humanity workshop, it is my job to teach others how to build wheels. So far, most people who express interest in learning and then attempt to do so are stunned at how easy it actually is to learn how to work wheels one's self.

And, you will be able to repair a wheel just about anywhere and at any time if you happen to keep a spoke wrench with you when out and about.
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It looks like the holes around the valve hole are not on the same side. Is it possible to do a quick rim swap if that is the case? What if I rotate the rim so the valve hole on one is one ahead of the other, thereby synching up the hole side sequence?
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Originally Posted by SirMike1983 View Post
It looks like the holes around the valve hole are not on the same side. Is it possible to do a quick rim swap if that is the case? What if I rotate the rim so the valve hole on one is one ahead of the other, thereby synching up the hole side sequence?
Just make sure that the resulting gap between the two spokes destined to sit around the valve hole spread outwards and give you some room around the valve hole. If it doesn't, advance two spoke holes on the donor rim (though keep in mind label alignment).

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The widest openings on the wheel always seem to fall in an area where the holes are on the wrong side of each rim. Does the valve have to go into one of these widest openings?

I have another 36 spoke wheel here. Could I do a wheel build that just copies that?
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Old 11-01-09, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SirMike1983 View Post
Let me see if I have this correct about a rim swap I'd like to do:
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have I missed anything?

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I decided to try a lace up build from scratch. I thought lacing it would be very difficult, but actually that has turned out to be the easy part so far. It seems that getting it trued and adjusted is the hardest part. The lace up just seemed to be an "every 4th hole" sort of thing, when weave in the last 2 sets of spokes at the end.
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I did a rim swap by using twist-ties where the spokes cross, the outer cross, and remove all the nipples, then move the "hub and spoke assembly" over to the new rim. You don't have to futz with two rims at the same time.
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