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Old 10-28-09, 09:01 PM
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Merxck bike photo quizzler

I was at a meeting of the No Click Cycling Club here in Toronto this evening. And as I was leaving I picked up a postcard promoting some bike history photo show.

https://picasaweb.google.com/TOcycles...48847995450274

As I looked at it, NCCC co-organizer and meeting host and local classic bike guru Mike Barry asked me: "What's wrong with that picture?"

and for the life of me I don't know. but I told him not to tell me until the next club meeting (November 28th I believe, in case anyone local is interested in visiting mike's mini-museum and talking pre-83 bike lore.)

I've got a couple of ideas now but I'll throw it out here for you weenies.

So, who knows what's wrong with the picture? (Mike said it was pretty basic and pretty obvious.)
I'll take all your replies to Mike and report on who got it right.

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Old 10-28-09, 10:35 PM
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I'm not sure if it is what he's talking about, but what what really bothers me about that photo is the saddle height.

I was looking at buying that book last month and kept getting hung up on that photo. The bikes are all supposed to be original and set up correctly. So to me either Eddy was riding the wrong size frame or that saddle was not put right for the photo.

Maybe Jan is so used to those French rando set-ups that it looked right to him
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Old 10-28-09, 10:58 PM
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The shifters?
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Old 10-28-09, 11:02 PM
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EDIT: nvm, i'm wrong.

EDIT 2: Is it something to do with the panto'd chainring? I don't think I've ever seen Merckx-panto'd components...
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Old 10-28-09, 11:18 PM
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Merxck is spelled wrong on the frame?

EDIT: Scrub that, I see that is is spelled correctly now, it is me that had it wrong!

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Old 10-28-09, 11:24 PM
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I'm not sure it's all that obvious. The seat is definitely too low for eddy if that were his bike, it also has track pedals, but I don't know if that is wrong, it's just different.

edit: also to be correct, the hoods should be gum, but that might just be the photo?
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I got it! Is it the orange fork crown, instead of chrome?

Edit: Not the shifters. The shifter bosses were brazed on the Team Molteni bike.

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Old 10-29-09, 02:27 AM
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The only thing I can see is that there is no tubing decal and he's using track pedals for the road. Neither constitutes anything wrong. I also can see that his front tire will rub on the toe clips but that doesn't constitute anything wrong either. Especially in a TT or hill climb bikes with tight wheel base.
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Old 10-29-09, 03:32 AM
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My guess - the super record big ring.
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Old 10-29-09, 05:23 AM
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Eddy's bikes always had plain and impeccably white bartape. Fully wrapped too.

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It's more obvious than that guys. The front brake pad is severely canted and riding on the sidewall, waiting for an impending blow-out.
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I'm trying to think of the last time I saw Eddy riding on hard-anodized rims during the Molteni era. Polished NISI's, yes. Mavic MA 40's? No.

Those also look like brazed-on NR shifters.

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My guess - the super record big ring.
It's not a Super large ring. It's a Nuovo that has had the inner braces cut off between the chainring bolt mounts.

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Old 10-29-09, 08:03 AM
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I'm sticking with the brake cabling. I don't think Eddie used the right lever to control the rear brake.
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I'm sticking with the brake cabling. I don't think Eddie used the right lever to control the rear brake.
On here he is.

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I should have added in my post that I too questioned the brake cable routing to Mike. While it may or may not be original or historically accurate, he said that was not what he was thinking of.

One thought I had, after comparing this bike to all the Eddy In Action photos I could find, was that he usually seemed to be road riding on chromed forks, and these ones are painted. Although there is one shot of him on the track in Mexico in 1982(?) where the forks are painted. But that bike is a completely different beast than the one in the picture.

I'll let this run another day or two and then I'll send this thread to Mike, get his reaction and revert. (I hope we are not disappointed, after getting everyone all whipped up like this.)

I, by the way, still don't know what Mike Barry thinks is "wrong". I've sent him my two guesses (the forks and the waterbottle cage, which all seemed to have been strapped on in the day, not brazed on.) and so I'll find out the answer when we all do.
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A pretty good point. And Mike Barry did concede that the tape and the shifter clamps were a bit of a mess. But again, that, he said, was minor compared to what he was thinking of.
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Forks are right, braze ons were around on his later Molteni bikes, as well as anodized rims.
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go back and read post #11!
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For the record, I've seen Molteni Merckx's come with full painted forks, chrome-top forks, and full-chrome forks. The answer isn't in that fork, as OFG has pointed out.

If this stuff is "minor" in comparison to what Mike had in mind, I can only assume that "major" issues relate to the frame - in which case, I'll guess that it is 1mm taller then what Eddy would normally ride, or the seattube / headtube angle is incorrect.

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go back and read post #11!
That's "major?" Considering the bar tape and saddle adjustment on that thing, I'd put that down as bad prep for photography more then a major accuracy issue.

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go back and read post #11!
You are correct, and seeing the picture of Eddy head-on, I'm incorrect. What Mike saw though? Possibly the brake position, but the saddle height is definitely too low also.
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Brake levers are not drilled!
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Otis had it in post #2 -- seat height is too low...



or...the stem has been changed, or no drillium on the big chain ring, or...

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brakes are too high because it has 700c rims/tires instead of 27"?
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The toe strap is in backwards. It looks like it was threaded through the top of the toe clip first
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