Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

need advice on fork I'm planning to install

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

need advice on fork I'm planning to install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-30-09 | 03:20 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
need advice on fork I'm planning to install

I'm planning to replace the fork on the Tommasini I bought recently with a chrome version (the previous owner painted the fork that's on there now, because the chrome was in poor condition). Unfortunately, the replacement isn't in perfect shape either (as pictured).

I looked at the old rust threads, seems like I might want to use Flitz/Blue Magic/Noxon/Nevr Dull on it. The rust comes off easily with a fingernail, so I imagine it shouldn't be that hard to remove. Then I'll wax it with carnauba. Does that sound like the right thing to do? Is there a best one of those options to use?

The head tube is discolored but doesn't seem that rusty, in the sense that it's still perfectly smooth. Should I just use the same derusting stuff on that as on the chrome parts?

One other thing: a few of the threads on the fork are sheared off (as pictured). Is this likely to cause problems?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
tube.jpg (34.7 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg
crown2.jpg (65.6 KB, 13 views)
File Type: jpg
crown.jpg (55.7 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg
threads.jpg (74.6 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg
crown_bottom.jpg (52.2 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg
tine2.jpg (62.6 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg
tine.jpg (53.2 KB, 2 views)
bitt3n is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 03:25 PM
  #2  
lotek's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 17,687
Likes: 12
From: n.w. superdrome

Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa

yup, that sounds like a good plan.
Might this be a good candidate for oxalic acid?
definitely want to use the was after you clean it up.

marty
__________________
Sono pił lento di quel che sembra.
Odio la gente, tutti.


Want to upgrade your membership? Click Here.
lotek is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 03:33 PM
  #3  
Bianchigirll's Avatar
Bianchi Goddess
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28,888
Likes: 4,126
From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

yes the stripped area will cause a problem if that is the adjusting cup ends up on the threads. you will not be able to lock it in place.. does this this fork fit the bike?
__________________
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 03:50 PM
  #4  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
I haven't removed the old fork yet, because I want to strip the paint first to be sure the old fork is definitely in worse shape than the replacement. Holding them side by side, the top of the new fork comes exactly flush with the top of the headset.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
comparison.jpg (53.2 KB, 7 views)
bitt3n is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 04:00 PM
  #5  
Iowegian's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,812
Likes: 23
From: Boulder, Colo
I'd use oxalic acid to remove the rust I'd also restore the threads by having some brass brazed onto the bad threads and re-cutting new ones. The oxalic acid is something you can do yourself. Unless you have brazing equipment and a die to cut the fork threads you'll have to find a LBS to do that for you. While you're there, have them install the fork crown race as well.
Iowegian is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 04:20 PM
  #6  
Bianchigirll's Avatar
Bianchi Goddess
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28,888
Likes: 4,126
From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

I do not think I would change forks. that stripped spot looks like it will be a big issue. you may end up spending alot time on this only to discover you can't keep the headset adjusted with yhe 'new' fork.
__________________
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 04:21 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Iowegian
I'd use oxalic acid to remove the rust I'd also restore the threads by having some brass brazed onto the bad threads and re-cutting new ones. The oxalic acid is something you can do yourself. Unless you have brazing equipment and a die to cut the fork threads you'll have to find a LBS to do that for you. While you're there, have them install the fork crown race as well.
yeesh, what's a ballpark estimate for the likely cost of rethreading? that doesn't sound like something my corner shop would be competent at.. maybe I'll just live with the old fork.

is oxalic acid likely to damage the chrome/paint? it's already in dodgy shape. I think the paint on the crown peels when I look at it.
bitt3n is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 04:57 PM
  #8  
Iowegian's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,812
Likes: 23
From: Boulder, Colo
Originally Posted by bitt3n
yeesh, what's a ballpark estimate for the likely cost of rethreading? that doesn't sound like something my corner shop would be competent at.. maybe I'll just live with the old fork.
It cost me $15 but that was 20+ years ago and I think the shop undercharged me. If you're willing to do the leg work you could probably get a welding shop to put some brass on there and then take the fork to your LBS for threading. Most welding shops around here have a $20 minimum and the LBS will probably charge you about the same.

Originally Posted by bitt3n
is oxalic acid likely to damage the chrome/paint? it's already in dodgy shape. I think the paint on the crown peels when I look at it.
The acid bath won't do any real damage to the chrome or paint as long as you don't let it sit for a week. There's a ton of threads on the subject here, check those before starting. However, any existing damage to the chrome, paint or underlying metal is damage already done. If the paint is just sticking to rusty metal it will come off sooner or later, but much sooner with the oxalic acid.
Iowegian is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 06:17 PM
  #9  
Grand Bois's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,392
Likes: 40
From: Pinole, CA, USA
I just cleaned up a chrome fork using balled up aluminum foil and WD-40. It's an old trick that works well.
Grand Bois is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-09 | 10:08 PM
  #10  
JohnDThompson's Avatar
Old fart
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 26,324
Likes: 5,233
From: Appleton WI

Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.

Melt some brass into the stripped threads and cut new threads into the brass. Good as new!
JohnDThompson is offline  
Reply
Old 10-31-09 | 12:05 AM
  #11  
bmxkidinTexas's Avatar
my pedals are to big
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: In a house

Bikes: 20" bmx, and a 75' gitane

I cleaned up these forks:



with a wire wheel, then repainted them, and now they look like this:







Give it a try! whats that stuff you said to use for polishing the metal???


Jeff.
bmxkidinTexas is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.