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Force 11-15-09 10:03 PM

Is there a Ciocc revival?
 
There's a NOS Ciocc frame on eBay currently at $1,596 (28 bids) with another day left (see link below). It's made of Columbus Aelle tubing. That seems outrageous. What accounts for this premium?

http://cgi.ebay.com/CIOCC-Columbus-f...item2303be7444

unworthy1 11-15-09 10:16 PM

3 things:
it's NOS,
it's white,
he uses words like "legendary, high professional, and masterpiece" to describe an Aelle frame (which may have been built by Billato)...we're talking marketing genius at work.

Otis 11-15-09 10:21 PM

w**o and u**n are both really hot for mid level Italian production frames?

Mr IGH 11-15-09 11:05 PM

I couldn't stand the jerk that imported them in the early 80's, now the hype is over the top...what's the name mean?

yellowjeep 11-15-09 11:14 PM

White balance and tint, thats all I am saying.

rbaisa 11-16-09 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr IGH (Post 10036106)
I couldn't stand the jerk that imported them in the early 80's, now the hype is over the top...what's the name mean?

Has something to do with poker. Hence their design on the fork.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 11-16-09 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 10035955)
it's white,

Which the pictures demonstrate so accurately :rolleyes:

Chombi 11-16-09 01:54 PM

Ciocc was one of my my Italian dream bike back in the 80's. I remember feeling like I was in a trance when I encountered the Ciocc framesets hanging in the LBS near the University I went to. I tapped on the bare Ciocc, Guerciotti, Gios Torino and Masi frames just to listen to the lovely ringing tones I hear from them. I always prefered the graphics on the dark colored (green?, sorry I'm a bit color blind) Cioccs over al the other Italian bike colors back then.
But If I did get a chance or had enough money to get myself back then and now a "proper" Ciocc, it would certainly not made with the middling "Aelle" tubing. Columbus "SLX" will be my only choice!, of course!
Still love classic Cioccs......despite their "quick release" paint jobs.

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV
85(?) Vitus Carbone Plus 7

JunkYardBike 11-16-09 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis (Post 10035981)
w**o and u**n are both really hot for mid level Italian production frames?

Or they're friends of the seller?

JunkYardBike 11-16-09 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbaisa (Post 10037823)
Has something to do with poker. Hence their design on the fork.

From Classic Rendezvous:

"Frame maestro/founder of Ciocc was Giovanni Pelizzoli. Ciocc was his nickname (local dialect for "poker faced" thus the Ciocc badge of four aces in a cross formation)."

EjustE 11-16-09 02:14 PM

If that Peugeot Mixte went for $900, a Ciocc frame should being at least twice as much :)

Soylent 11-16-09 07:25 PM

It's not plain Aelle. It's legendary high professional Aelle.

Mr IGH 11-16-09 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 10038414)
...(local dialect for "poker faced" thus the Ciocc badge of four aces in a cross formation)."

This because it required a poker face to sell these "custom" frames to un-suspecting buyers, esp when you told them how they were made by a master...bater....


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