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Old 11-27-09, 03:23 PM
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value of campy 50th anniversary group no card!!!

just wondering. on cr los angeles, a guy, talked to him last night, has a 50th anniv group in the box but doesnt have the card, he wants 3 grand! seems like alot without the card? im guessing its worth half that much. you can get a bike with it on for about 2 grand. you can check out the details on cr. any comments? id love to have one at a resonable price.
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just wondering. on cr los angeles, a guy, talked to him last night, has a 50th anniv group in the box but doesnt have the card, he wants 3 grand! seems like alot without the card? im guessing its worth half that much. you can get a bike with it on for about 2 grand. you can check out the details on cr. any comments? id love to have one at a resonable price.
Your estimate corresponds to my own one. $1500-2000 max.
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I saw a complete set, still in the box, go for $2-3000 (IIRC) on eBay a few years ago.
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Set number 7613 sold for $4100 2 years ago. A used set in the box sold for $1700 last week on Ebay. A friend of mine has set #22 still in the box. A beautiful sight.
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Over the years, I have gone through 7 bikes with 50th anniversary gruppo. I never paid more than $1000 for any of the bikes that I purchased and sold them for an average of about $1500 each. There are 15,000 gruppi out there and likely very few that have been junked, so this means that they are far from being rare or hard to find. Furthermore, it is perhaps worthwhile to recall a bit of the sales history of these gruppi when they were launched in 1983. The first tranche of 5000 gruppi sold like hotcakes, which is why a second tranche of 5000 was launched before the first gruppi were even sold out. The sales momentum seemed to be holding out which meant that the third tranche of 5000 gruppi were set into production with perhaps 8000 gruppi having been sold. The market then became saturated and Campagnolo had enormous difficulties getting rid of the last few thousand gruppi. I remember in 1987-88 seeing a large number of them sitting in the warehouse and recall seeing messages being sent out offering them for cheap (for less than half the original price!). Many shop employees ended up with them for quite cheap and even more of them were put away in the cellar or attic. Every time that it seems that a number of them sell for big bucks, there is always another influx of new ones being offered at irrationally exuberant prices. The added supply then brings the price down once again. Right now there is a like-new Colnago C35 frame built up with Campagnolo 50th anniversary gruppo, plus a few added bonuses such as 18 kt Gold-plated stem and custom saddle being offered for less than 2000 euros with no action whatsoever.
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mm citoyen, maybe we can do some business. sounds like your the guy whos got some totally cool stuff. say, what did they originally sell for anyway? this guy also seems to know the number of his set. how can you know the number if the card is not with the set. by the way, a guy called me up month or so ago and said hed sell me his confente that came with a 50th anniversary group for just 15 grand. well i passed on that as i am saving for a house besides i dont want another confente unless its period correct!!
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Here are 4 bikes with 50th anniversary gruppo up for sale: http://www.kijiji.it/annunci/bicicle...torica/2143685 http://www.subito.it/bicicletta-de-r...ca-8592444.htm http://www.subito.it/corsa-campagnol...na-8720070.htm http://www.subito.it/bicicletta-coln...ma-8781480.htm
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Over the years, I have gone through 7 bikes with 50th anniversary gruppo. I never paid more than $1000 for any of the bikes that I purchased and sold them for an average of about $1500 each. There are 15,000 gruppi out there and likely very few that have been junked, so this means that they are far from being rare or hard to find. Furthermore, it is perhaps worthwhile to recall a bit of the sales history of these gruppi when they were launched in 1983. The first tranche of 5000 gruppi sold like hotcakes, which is why a second tranche of 5000 was launched before the first gruppi were even sold out. The sales momentum seemed to be holding out which meant that the third tranche of 5000 gruppi were set into production with perhaps 8000 gruppi having been sold. The market then became saturated and Campagnolo had enormous difficulties getting rid of the last few thousand gruppi. I remember in 1987-88 seeing a large number of them sitting in the warehouse and recall seeing messages being sent out offering them for cheap (for less than half the original price!). Many shop employees ended up with them for quite cheap and even more of them were put away in the cellar or attic. Every time that it seems that a number of them sell for big bucks, there is always another influx of new ones being offered at irrationally exuberant prices. The added supply then brings the price down once again. Right now there is a like-new Colnago C35 frame built up with Campagnolo 50th anniversary gruppo, plus a few added bonuses such as 18 kt Gold-plated stem and custom saddle being offered for less than 2000 euros with no action whatsoever.
So what you are saying: is the price devaluation having to do with "saturation" --- rather than serial# prioritization.
As i'net sources seem to lead i'net viewers to believe as if the lower serial# were built of better quality, by being of higher in cost value.
This debate be proven, by what you say.
I know a longtime Campagnolo authorized dealer who say that for such an item, within such a highly reputed name. Campagnolo only remain of consistency in its products.
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Holy zombie thread, Batman. 7 years later? Yikes!!
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Holy zombie thread, Batman. 7 years later? Yikes!!
"Yikes" ----
be what I/any Campagnolo 50th Anniversary Groupset OWNER is to feel:
be it that a "Campagnolo"item, over a short time of manufacturing, having its manufacturing quality based on the SN#timeline.

misc: I speak of nos groupset + with Card. (multi units)
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