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San Francisco 1905: streetcars, horse, cars and BIKES!

Old 11-28-09, 07:30 AM
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San Francisco 1905: streetcars, horse, cars and BIKES!

San Francisco one year before the earthquake, the best youtube video ever:

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Old 11-28-09, 07:33 AM
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And here a link to the same streetcar line after the earthquake.
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Old 11-28-09, 12:57 PM
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That's really cool. I was shocked by how wide the streets were. I always think of older cities having narrow streets, but I guess the west was building bigger even back then. And I couldn't help but notice how cavalier people were about cutting in front of the car. Kind of funny.

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Interesting view of Market Street. There are still plenty of streetcars running on what are essentially the same tracks. I recognized a lot of the buildings, too.

The Ferry Building is still there at the foot of Market Street, and restored quite nicely.



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Also pretty cool: Barcelona 1908

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Old 11-28-09, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Coreyk View Post
Interesting view of Market Street. There are still plenty of streetcars running on what are essentially the same tracks. I recognized a lot of the buildings, too.

The Ferry Building is still there at the foot of Market Street, and restored quite nicely.



Thanks for that!

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Note the cable car never stops - people just jump on. I used to ride the cable cars between businesses - in the 80s you could still jump on and off at will without waiting for a stop. We'd provide coffee to the drivers when they came in, so we didn't have to pay for our three block rides. We were right at a end of a left hand, downhill curve from Jackson onto Hyde - and of course they put a switch there, so the cars would occaisionally fly off the track if they came down too fast, which they often did...

I also noticed the guy on a bike crossed the track at an angle, but then rode right on top of the slot in the middle where the car hooks on to the cable - he must have had big thick tires to do that. Those tracks are incredibly slippery.
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Old 11-28-09, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sciencemonster View Post
I also noticed the guy on a bike crossed the track at an angle, but then rode right on top of the slot in the middle where the car hooks on to the cable - he must have had big thick tires to do that. Those tracks are incredibly slippery.
Yeah... actually two cyclists were riding right on the slot in the video... nobody better try that with their new road bike...

And main streets were typically very wide in the 1800s (at least in the U.S.) to enable teams of horses to turn around.
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You'll note: No "lanes", per se, nothing that we would today call an "intersection", and the concept of "jaywalking" was not part of the paradigm.

Those horseless carriages will prove to be the Jurasic comet of this world. In just 30 more years, autombiles will rule the streets, traffic movement will be close to what it is today and the handful of cycling enthusiasts left will first form the embryonic ideal of a bike path.

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You'll note: No "lanes", per se, nothing that we would today call an "intersection", and the concept of "jaywalking" was not part of the paradigm.

Those horseless carriages will prove to be the Jurasic comet of this world. In just 30 more years, autombiles will rule the streets, traffic movement will be close to what it is today and the handful of cycling enthusiasts left will first form the embryonic ideal of a bike path.

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Given there were no cross walks, marked intersections or signal lights, I don't think the term "jaywalking" would have been appropriate for their vocabulary. All modes of transportation, including bipedal humans, were tossed in together and had to share the road simultaneously. Fortunately, most people seemed to have moved at an appropriately slow speeds to avoid accidents, but you do see a couple of ancestors of today's perennially-rushed, rude urbanites in cars and on horse back moving too fast for the flow.
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Given there were no cross walks, marked intersections or signal lights, I don't think the term "jaywalking" would have been appropriate for their vocabulary.
Uh....yeah. It wasn't part of the paradigm.

Anyway, within ten years of this film pedestrians were being mowed down with regularity by ever increasing volumes of ever increasing velocity automobile traffic and "jaywalker" in the modern sense of "a pedestrian who doesn't stay in their prescribed place" was in use by the mid/late 1920s.

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And not a high wheel bicycle in sight (at least not one that I saw.) The safety bicycle had been invented about a decade earlier; and it obviously did not take long for the high wheel bicycle to disappear from most city streets.

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Cool video. Thanks for posting it. I wonder how riotous Critical Mass riders would get if they encountered horse poop on the road.
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Before the intarwebz the national pastime was crossing the street!

Video rocked, thanks!

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Old 11-29-09, 12:26 AM
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Cool video. Thanks for posting it. I wonder how riotous Critical Mass riders would get if they encountered horse poop on the road.
I've encountered horse poop on the road in SF. On the peninsula, too. Mounted police are still used.
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Shared to Facebook - I love the "Brooklyn dodgers".
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You know else I noticed just now, look at how frequent streetcar service is....

Bus systems sure fail hard.
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Who's the music by? Morcheeba?
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Who's the music by? Morcheeba?
It's shown at the beginning of the video: Air. The song is La Femme d'Argent.
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Great! I was transported back in time. Soon movies like that will be in 3-D, as it's easy to convert them now. But 2-D certainly made my day! Many thanks for posting it.
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