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Old 12-09-09, 04:25 PM
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finding out the age of a bottecchia bike

I snagged this baby for 60 bucks from my friend. This bike was an old family bike of his, but he has no idea of when it was purchased. The frame is definitely welded together with what I would describe as brass. There is only one number on the frame right where the seat goes in. The number is 268084. On the rims there is also a little more identification. It says made in Italy DOLOMITI. I would love to figure out when it was made and try to restore the paint job. The bike came to me blue, however the frame was rusting, and it was obvious the bike had been repainted. I just finished stripping the paint and polishing the frame. Also do you know any bay area stores that would have access to bottecchia? Thanks for the thoughts and support.
I also dug up the seat it came with, it is called Grand-Prix, and under the seat, made in Italy. Also looking at some pictures of bottecchia bikes I noticed they had checkered stickers, My bike used to have those. However, they were frayed so I took them off with the paint as well. Hope this helps.
And another thing, wow I am forgetting a lot, it is ten speed, the dérailleur is connected by wedging a piece of metal between the frame and the bolt to the rear axle.
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Old 12-09-09, 04:33 PM
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Pictures would probably help. I don't have much to say since I know nil about Italian bikes, but the presence of brass at the joints indicates the frame is brazed together, not welded.
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Old 12-09-09, 04:33 PM
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Hey Andrew,

Pics always help if you want an ID/dob.

Here is a link to a nice 70's Bottecchia https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Bottechia.htm

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Old 12-09-09, 04:54 PM
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I'm guessing a boom period De Luxe or Special from your description - 1969-1974 or thereabouts. Are the fork ends and rear drop-outs chrome or painted? Deluxe was painted (although the fork was fully chrome underneath) while the Special was chromed. There was also a 1st generation Gran Turismo that was similar to the Special but not as common. I believe all of those models used chrome plated steel 27x1 1/4 rims manufactured by Dolomiti in Italy at one point or another. Dark blue, known as Bottecchia Blue in the catalog, was a common color. In excellent condition you could probably sell one of those for $300 or so but what you discribe sounds like it needs a complete restoration which would cost a lot more than that.
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Old 12-10-09, 12:10 AM
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I will try to up load pics soon. Only the front forks are chrome. the rest is steel. also how do I know what size my bike is. I notice that bikes have certain inches to describe size, how do I find that out?
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Old 12-10-09, 12:39 AM
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pics

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I can't access the pictures. Check the permissions you have set on Facebook. The size can be determined by measuring from the crank spindle along the seat tube to the point where they seat tube intersects the top tube. The standard sizes are 21", 23", and 25". Since only the fork is chrome it's probably a De Luxe model.
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I changes the settings
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something I just noticed, the only other bottecchia with the exact same wheel hubs is the 1973 special model, 1972 special model. can I find out the exact years/day it was made though? https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/...1702998842.jpg
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FWIW, I'm still seeing only a logon page for the photo's.
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Dude, are you the worst photographer ever?

Just kidding, I know how hard it can be to close up photos.
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well not only that it is a phone camera, I am a poor college student. I only use money on the things that REALLY matter to me, so I bought the bike and am fixing it up, and nothing else, no cameras or anything pointless. So anyone have any ideas. right now based on the look of my rims and the chrome only on the front forks makes me want to say, a 1972 DeLuxe. Do you agree? I kinda want to find my bike's serial number on some kinda database so I can get an actual age, but I can't seem to find something like that.
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Ok, I checked out the pictures. It's definately a DeLuxe. Unfortunately I know of no database where you could look up the serial number. Based on the appearance I'd say it could be anywhere from 1969 through 1973. I don't think it would be a '74 as the fork crowns on those didn't have the window cutouts. The exact spec varied somewhat through the bike boom based on availability, the catalogs are very generic, and the catalog pictures generally didn't change from year to even if spec did so I don't know how you could pinpoint the exact year unless you had date codes on the components or knew the year it was purchased. Not that it should matter as they really didn't change much during the bike boom. Very early models (maybe '69-'70, just guessing) are sometimes seen with sort of "socket" style lugs which transitioned to more modern looking pointed lugs. My '74 didn't have the window cutouts in the fork crown like yours. It's doubtful that changes line up exactly with the year of manufacture anyway. Their inventory control wasn't anywhere near that good so it's more likely that changes were made as one component ran out and was replaced by a new one mid-year. 1972 is as good a guess as any but just a guess.
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