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Old 12-11-09, 06:36 PM
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Raleigh Space Rider

My son discovered this in my parents' attic last weekend. It was my first road bike. We found the fenders and chainguard in the attic as well. No luck on seat/pedals but I can find something for that. My son's been helping me rebuild my Cilo, and really wants to do a restoration on this one. I apparently flipped the handlebars as a kid, which look cool to me now, kind of like a cross between moustache bars and motorcycle clubman bars.
The stamp on the Sturmey Archer hub says 73. I assume this is the year it was made from other threads I've seen.
All the bearings seem good. My plan is to do the standard strip/clean/regrease everything, new tires and cables, and let him ride. Looking it over, the paint has a LOT of scratches, some areas ~1" with all the paint missing. Shame, as the paint that's there looks fairly good and restorable. The good news is that it looks like all surface rust on the bare steel, with no bubbling anywhere. He's bugging me to repaint it when we take it apart.
Before we do anything irreversible, is this rare/valuable in any way that I'd be crucified for blasting and repainting it? I've done a little research on it this week, and other than a beautiful restoration by a shop in Philly it seems like a pretty standard, well made kids bike. Not planning to do anything bizarre, just repaint, restore the headtube badge, polish up the components, and keep the fenders/chainguard for later. A few shots (hope this works):


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There's one posted on on my local CL, never seen one before

RARE 24" raliegh space rider - $200
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I don't think that it is a rare bike. I remember selling them and they were a 24" 3 speed , king of junior version of a Raleigh Sports. Nice for your to find it, though.
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Photos are tiny - can't make out what the condition is, though from here, it seems to be a "clean and polish" candidate with Meguiars Scratch X.

No Space Rider is worth the effort to respray.

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Have fun. I wish they came in my size.
Not rare or particularly valuable, but well made and good looking. I've heard of $50 powdercoat jobs. This might be a good candidate. Take good pics of your decals first.
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Old 12-14-09, 10:18 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyone! Not sure what I did wrong with the pics. I'll try linking direct from flickr & see if that works.
We shot off a ton of 'before' pics this weekend including details on all the decals.
I'm looking at it as more of a fun father-son project that nets him a cool ride at the end. He enjoys looking at old bikes and motorcycles with me, and has the latent engineer gene in him. I've also been wanting to get an old Honda 50 to restore with him, so this would be a good no jeopardy test of doing a rebuild/restoration. It was free, has great sentimental value, and most of the parts look reusable at this point.
Interesting,that CL pic is exactly what he wanted to do with the bars.
OK sample pics take 2:
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Old 12-19-09, 08:25 AM
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Small Progress Update/Cotter source?

OK we got it torn down this week between wrestling practice, homework, etc. Nick's pretty into the project so far, so I've been putting my spare time into this rather than my Cilo. Surprisingly, the headset and BB cups are good; we'll replace the balls as it goes back together.
I've now experienced the miracle of oxalic acid:

I treated the frame as well, but removing the surface rust from all the scratches made us decide to repaint it. I wouldn't have been able to make it look good with 25% touch-up paint, so he's now learning the joys of wet sanding.
He actually decided independently on a dark green since there's a guy in the neighborhood with an old Triumph painted British Racing Green. I thought it was a pretty appropriate color for this ride. Hopefully we can have it in primer in the next day or two.
OK first question - I had to destroy the cotters to get them out. I've been doing a bit of searching; none of my LBS's have cotters. I'd like to keep the neat 'R' nuts on the cotters, are there any sources for them out there? I saw a guy on ebay who makes his own with the Raleigh threads, selling them for $20/pr.
Once we get the frame painted we'll tackle the wheels and tires. It's got a 3 spd coaster brake SA which seems to shift OK turning it by hand, and the wheels are relatively true.

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Thanks for the replies everyone! Not sure what I did wrong with the pics. I'll try linking direct from flickr & see if that works.
We shot off a ton of 'before' pics this weekend including details on all the decals.
I'm looking at it as more of a fun father-son project that nets him a cool ride at the end. He enjoys looking at old bikes and motorcycles with me, and has the latent engineer gene in him. I've also been wanting to get an old Honda 50 to restore with him, so this would be a good no jeopardy test of doing a rebuild/restoration. It was free, has great sentimental value, and most of the parts look reusable at this point.
Interesting,that CL pic is exactly what he wanted to do with the bars.
OK sample pics take 2:
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/...391f6f43_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2803/...4301ea9e_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/...6ee513b1_b.jpg
As a father of two sons, that is the perfect father-son project and will pay untold future benefits.
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Love those redwall tires. You're starting your kid off right.
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Thanks for the encouragement! RFC, I remember wanting to do projects like this as a kid, so I'm glad I have a slower period at work to do this right now. He's done probably 75% of the work so far, with coaching.
I know it's not as sexy as a Nuovo Record / Columbus or 531 bike, but it's been a great experience so far. I've learned quite a bit about Raleigh in the past few weeks, and he's learned a ton.
I figure at this point we probably have 25% of the prep done, with 90% to go.
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OK a brief update. We got through Christmas week and found enough time to get the paint done today. Ended up with four coats of color and 3 coats of clear. It's not perfect but much better than the 'before' version, and Nick is pretty stoked about it right now. This shot hides the orange peel:

So flushed with excitement, he decides to start pulling the wheels apart tonight. We discovered that the front hub cones are shot, pitted pretty badly. The shell looks good, and the axle is straight.
Enboldened by a few beers, I dove into the rear hub. Not as complicated as a V4 motorcycle, but still impressive how much 'stuff' is jammed into that shell:

The pawls and gears all look OK on first examination. I found that the right side cage was missing a ball. There's no shrapnel anywhere in there, so I'm wondering if they sent it out of the factory this way?

OK off to celebrate the coming of 2010. Happy New Year!
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I had a '72 hub that was missing a ball, too. Only 23 in the ring instead of the 24 required.

As far as cotters go, you may be out of luck--I don't think you'll able to use the Raleigh nuts with different cotters, unless you can find some NOS ones on eBay. IIRC, they have the odd 26 tpi thread, too. You could send an email to Bikesmith Design or a PM to MnHPVA guy and see what he has for cotters. Apparently the cotter situation is getting dire, though--not a lot of quality cotters anymore.

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Thanks for the heads-up and the link! Lots of good SA info in there.
I saw last month that there was a guy in PA I think who was machining his own repro cotters with the 26tpi threads, as well as harder front wheel cones. They weren't cheap, though (20 for cotters, and 35 for the cones I think). I saw that Harris has generic replacements for only $2 each.
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NOS cotters appear to be NLA. I had to buy a cheap set today to get a Herc that I am working on back together. I have a box somewhere with a few NOS ones...but I can't find that box.

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OK to close out this thread, here's the final result in case anyone ever does a search. Got it together a few weeks ago, and we're still tweaking a few things. I got a set of Kenda tires & tubes from Niagara, generic cotters, new cables and a set of cork grips. The saddle is I think the original one from my Cilo. It looks big and out of place, but it will do for now. Son decided to leave the cheap 70s pedals that were on it for now as well.
He's been having a blast cruising the neighborhood and making Subway runs with it; likes riding it more than his MTB, but he doesn't want to ride it to school since it would get banged up. Guess he feels like he's invested enough time in it to keep it nice.
I think we spent under 50 on it overall, including paint.
Definitely not worthwhile in pure financial terms, but had we not dragged it home, it would be filling up space in a landfill.
Most importantly, he's having such a great time with it, and it's helped him get more excited about riding in general. He's got an 80s BMX project lined up, set up a little website encouraging kids to ride to school, and we just started doing some MTB riding on local trails (good cross training for football with the number of hits he's taken )
I'm guessing we'll be repeating this process with an adult-size Raleigh in the future sometime. Lots of great inspiration in the 'love of English 3 speeds' thread.
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A different take on RFC's thought above:

"As a son of a father, that is the perfect father-son project and will pay untold future benefits."
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Love seeing this thread--I had a Space Rider back in the day and it definitely felt like my first grown-up bike. It looks terrific--love the handlebars too.
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The picture of your son riding is priceless!
Nice job.
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Junior path racer. Nice job, guys!
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WOW - NICE!

I had one of those when I was a kid. What a great bike - I rode that thing to hell and back several times. SWEET!
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strange coincidence--one of these popped up on the Boston CL yesterday--she has it listed as a ladies' bike for $60. Bronze green, looks like it's in nice shape--made me very nostalgic!
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That looks like a great bike. You guys did a great job!
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WOW - NICE!

I had one of those when I was a kid. What a great bike - I rode that thing to hell and back several times. SWEET!
Glad to see this is making some people smile!
Actually I don't know if you noticed at the top of the thread, but this WAS my bike from when I was a kid. It spent a few summers as a pseudo cyclocross/XC trail bike getting beat upon on the trails behind my parents' house. So far he's been treating it better than I did, saving the beatings for his mountain bike and BMX.
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Oh very cool!

Yeah, mine had the same riding. Trails, BMX jumps, "ghost riding", etc. Even jumped it into a pool once with no obvious damage!

I used to absolutely DESTROY my friends on the thing - they all had either "banana seat" bikes or BMX bikes. With three speeds and the (relatively) light weight I had more top-end and could out climb all of them.

Wish the search function worked and I'd seen this thread earlier. I spent a TON of time trying to figure out just what my little Raleigh was - I yanked the chain guard where it said "Space Rider" very early in its life when I stripped it down for "speed" so I had no idea what model it was. Finally figured it out and posted the catalog page I found looking for comments but never got any response. Mine was the red/orange color. Here's the catalog page for reference.....



oh, and here's my "memories" thread if you're at all interested:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ht=Space+Rider

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