Velo-Cheapo 2010 Bicycle Build-Off Rules
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Velo-Cheapo 2010 Bicycle Build-Off Rules
Vélo Cheapo 2010 Bicycle Build-Off
Wherein intrepid connoisseurs of all things bike shall compete against one another for the Honor & Glory in a test of wits & skill to assemble the most beautiful, functional, classic, and cheapest bicycle they are able. Minor changes for this year’s contest include:
No budget limitation (see below). Instead there will be increased points awarded for thriftiness.
Some minor changes to the registration process (see below).
Judges: stausty, Machin Shin, JunkYardBike
Entry collector: mkeller234
Photo coordinator: mkeller234
Entry fee: None
Prizes: Satisfaction and the envy of your peers
Limits: One bike per entrant, no maximum budget (however, points awarded for Thrift – see below.)
Contest Rules & Regulations
Eligibility:
If you are a regular member of BF, motivated to have a little fun in friendly competition with other members and build an awesome cheap bike, you are eligible. If you are petty, a sore loser, take yourself too seriously, or are otherwise not fun you are ineligible. Eligibility will be self-governed, no entrants, organizers, or judges will decide eligibility. It is the duty of any potential entrant to know if this isn't your kind of thing.
Dates & Deadlines:
Registration closes at February 1st , 2010.
Completed entries are due by March 1st, 2010. NEWSFLASH! Deadline has been extended to March 15th due to bad weather.
Registration:
Builders must submit their screen name and actual name to mkeller234 via email or PM. After your information has been received each builder will be assigned a unique number. This number will be the only identifier associated with your build entry until after judging is complete to ensure no intentional or unintentional preferential judging. When your bike is complete, contact mkeller234 to receive instructions regarding the posting of your photos and story.
Budget:
The total build budget is not limited. However, points awarded for Thrift will weight scores in favor of those operating with the smallest budget and producing the best results with that budget. See below for detailed scoring summary.
Accounting for costs:
All builders will be required to submit with their completed entry an expense list detailing the cost of everything that went into the build.
These expenses include but are not limited to:
Frame & Fork
Components
Materials for anything you build yourself
Consumables (paint, shellac, etc)
Labor done by others for which you paid or traded something of specific value
Expenses do not include:
Overhead
Tools (If you must purchase any specifically for this build)
Shipping (To be fair to our members outside the country or those who live in out-of-the-way places)
Lubricants, soaps, polishes or other normal maintenance consumables
Labor done by yourself
Entrants may feel free to account for a "by volume" consumable expense if it they so desire. For example, if a builder bought 2 cans of spray paint and used only 1.5 they are only responsible for the equivalent value of the used portion 1.5(total cost)
Entrants are each entitled to ONE and only one "freebie" which can be any item or other expense, which the builder actually received for free. This does not apply to new items given as gifts, nor can the "freebie" be used to negate the cost of any item for which you actually paid. The freebie may be applied towards an upgraded item for which there is no fair way to account for value. For example, if you replaced at some point a crank set with something newer, the value of the old cranks would not be equal to that of the new, but there is no other out-of-pocket cost associated with them. Trades are not freebies, unless the item which was traded away was free, a value must be calculated for the item received. Any component which normally comes in "pairs" may be counted as the single freebie. Example: shifters, calipers, etc. This does not apply to "systems." Example: brake levers & calipers, or both dérailleurs. The ONLY exception to the "one freebie" rule is garbage finds. While not everyone has cycling buddies who will give them old parts, everyone has access to the trash, and repurposing someone else's waste is free game for all. If you found it (that means no one gave it to you) discarded somewhere, it's yours to use free of penalty.
All other items must be accounted for monetarily. If an item was purchased and you cannot recall the cost it is your responsibility to assign it a fair market value, based on similar items being sold elsewhere or that you yourself have purchased. No outrageous bargains here, if you can't remember what you paid for it, be fair in your evaluation of what it's worth. (This will be on the honor system, but be sure to make a note of items for which you assigned an FMV in your expense list)
Complete bike purchased for parts may be included in the expenses either as the total cost of the bike or an FMV for each item used, at the builder's discretion.
The expense area is the only real way to cheat since there is no documentation required outside your word. Every builder is on the honor system, don't cheat, this is just for fun and karma will eventually kick you in the ass if you do. Play clean!
Entries:
Each builder will include in submission:
Photo documentation
An expense list
A narrative of the build process and what was done to ready the bike for submission
Photos limited to 10 photos per entry. Be creative and make your submission interesting to the judges.
Narratives may be submitted in the following file format: .pdf, .doc, .odt, .html .txt
Photos must be submitted as JPEG images.
Judging:
A panel of judges (Machin Shin, stausty, and JunkYardBike) will review all submissions anonymously and select the top three (3) entries based on the following point system (maximum of 60 points):
Thrift: 1-20 points
170.00 dollars or more (0pt)
169.99-160 (1pt)
159.99-150 (2pt)
149.99-140 (3pt)
139.99-130 (4pt)
129.99-120 (5pt)
119.99-110 (6pt)
109.99-100 (7pt)
99.99-90 (8pt)
89.99-80 (9pt)
79.99-70 (10pt)
69.99-60 (11pt)
59.99-50 (12pt)
49.99-40 (13pt)
39.99-30 (15pt)
29.99-20 (18pt)
19.99-10 (20pt)
Total build cost. The less you spend, the more points you get. Please don’t cut corners. Make your bike safe. If it needs new tires or brakes, well, you get the idea.
Style: 1-10 points
Style points will be awarded on the overall appearance and character of your bike.
Ingenuity: 1-10 points
Ingenuity points are award for your creative use of materials. For example, home-made pannier bags, horns, bells, racks, grips. Anything you make yourself in an effort to be thrifty.
Functionality: 1-10 points
Functionality points are awarded for your bike’s overall utility. A grocery getter, a cargo hauler, people transport, ultimate touring bike or all four!
Bonus points: 1-10 points
Bonus points are awarded by the judges any way they see fit. Je ne sais quoi.
Ties for the top 3 places will be decided by a vote among judges. Maximum points will decide the winner. There will also be three (3) honorable mentions – one awarded by each judge - for non-winning but particularly appealing entries in a category of our own choosing and definition (e.g. "Best use of gardening tools in bottom bracket repair", "Looks cool but also like a death trap", "Most attractive rattle-can paint job" instead of pre-defined categories.)
Disclaimer:
Few will enter, even fewer will win.
Bikeforums is in no way responsible for the outcome of this contest. By entering you agree to abide by all rules and regulations, accept all judgments as final and fair, and you assume responsibility for ensuring the fairness of your own actions.
Entrants also waive all rights to their narratives and photos which may be reproduced and hosted off-site.
Wherein intrepid connoisseurs of all things bike shall compete against one another for the Honor & Glory in a test of wits & skill to assemble the most beautiful, functional, classic, and cheapest bicycle they are able. Minor changes for this year’s contest include:
No budget limitation (see below). Instead there will be increased points awarded for thriftiness.
Some minor changes to the registration process (see below).
Judges: stausty, Machin Shin, JunkYardBike
Entry collector: mkeller234
Photo coordinator: mkeller234
Entry fee: None
Prizes: Satisfaction and the envy of your peers
Limits: One bike per entrant, no maximum budget (however, points awarded for Thrift – see below.)
Contest Rules & Regulations
Eligibility:
If you are a regular member of BF, motivated to have a little fun in friendly competition with other members and build an awesome cheap bike, you are eligible. If you are petty, a sore loser, take yourself too seriously, or are otherwise not fun you are ineligible. Eligibility will be self-governed, no entrants, organizers, or judges will decide eligibility. It is the duty of any potential entrant to know if this isn't your kind of thing.
Dates & Deadlines:
Registration closes at February 1st , 2010.
Completed entries are due by March 1st, 2010. NEWSFLASH! Deadline has been extended to March 15th due to bad weather.
Registration:
Builders must submit their screen name and actual name to mkeller234 via email or PM. After your information has been received each builder will be assigned a unique number. This number will be the only identifier associated with your build entry until after judging is complete to ensure no intentional or unintentional preferential judging. When your bike is complete, contact mkeller234 to receive instructions regarding the posting of your photos and story.
Budget:
The total build budget is not limited. However, points awarded for Thrift will weight scores in favor of those operating with the smallest budget and producing the best results with that budget. See below for detailed scoring summary.
Accounting for costs:
All builders will be required to submit with their completed entry an expense list detailing the cost of everything that went into the build.
These expenses include but are not limited to:
Frame & Fork
Components
Materials for anything you build yourself
Consumables (paint, shellac, etc)
Labor done by others for which you paid or traded something of specific value
Expenses do not include:
Overhead
Tools (If you must purchase any specifically for this build)
Shipping (To be fair to our members outside the country or those who live in out-of-the-way places)
Lubricants, soaps, polishes or other normal maintenance consumables
Labor done by yourself
Entrants may feel free to account for a "by volume" consumable expense if it they so desire. For example, if a builder bought 2 cans of spray paint and used only 1.5 they are only responsible for the equivalent value of the used portion 1.5(total cost)
Entrants are each entitled to ONE and only one "freebie" which can be any item or other expense, which the builder actually received for free. This does not apply to new items given as gifts, nor can the "freebie" be used to negate the cost of any item for which you actually paid. The freebie may be applied towards an upgraded item for which there is no fair way to account for value. For example, if you replaced at some point a crank set with something newer, the value of the old cranks would not be equal to that of the new, but there is no other out-of-pocket cost associated with them. Trades are not freebies, unless the item which was traded away was free, a value must be calculated for the item received. Any component which normally comes in "pairs" may be counted as the single freebie. Example: shifters, calipers, etc. This does not apply to "systems." Example: brake levers & calipers, or both dérailleurs. The ONLY exception to the "one freebie" rule is garbage finds. While not everyone has cycling buddies who will give them old parts, everyone has access to the trash, and repurposing someone else's waste is free game for all. If you found it (that means no one gave it to you) discarded somewhere, it's yours to use free of penalty.
All other items must be accounted for monetarily. If an item was purchased and you cannot recall the cost it is your responsibility to assign it a fair market value, based on similar items being sold elsewhere or that you yourself have purchased. No outrageous bargains here, if you can't remember what you paid for it, be fair in your evaluation of what it's worth. (This will be on the honor system, but be sure to make a note of items for which you assigned an FMV in your expense list)
Complete bike purchased for parts may be included in the expenses either as the total cost of the bike or an FMV for each item used, at the builder's discretion.
The expense area is the only real way to cheat since there is no documentation required outside your word. Every builder is on the honor system, don't cheat, this is just for fun and karma will eventually kick you in the ass if you do. Play clean!
Entries:
Each builder will include in submission:
Photo documentation
An expense list
A narrative of the build process and what was done to ready the bike for submission
Photos limited to 10 photos per entry. Be creative and make your submission interesting to the judges.
Narratives may be submitted in the following file format: .pdf, .doc, .odt, .html .txt
Photos must be submitted as JPEG images.
Judging:
A panel of judges (Machin Shin, stausty, and JunkYardBike) will review all submissions anonymously and select the top three (3) entries based on the following point system (maximum of 60 points):
Thrift: 1-20 points
170.00 dollars or more (0pt)
169.99-160 (1pt)
159.99-150 (2pt)
149.99-140 (3pt)
139.99-130 (4pt)
129.99-120 (5pt)
119.99-110 (6pt)
109.99-100 (7pt)
99.99-90 (8pt)
89.99-80 (9pt)
79.99-70 (10pt)
69.99-60 (11pt)
59.99-50 (12pt)
49.99-40 (13pt)
39.99-30 (15pt)
29.99-20 (18pt)
19.99-10 (20pt)
Total build cost. The less you spend, the more points you get. Please don’t cut corners. Make your bike safe. If it needs new tires or brakes, well, you get the idea.
Style: 1-10 points
Style points will be awarded on the overall appearance and character of your bike.
Ingenuity: 1-10 points
Ingenuity points are award for your creative use of materials. For example, home-made pannier bags, horns, bells, racks, grips. Anything you make yourself in an effort to be thrifty.
Functionality: 1-10 points
Functionality points are awarded for your bike’s overall utility. A grocery getter, a cargo hauler, people transport, ultimate touring bike or all four!
Bonus points: 1-10 points
Bonus points are awarded by the judges any way they see fit. Je ne sais quoi.
Ties for the top 3 places will be decided by a vote among judges. Maximum points will decide the winner. There will also be three (3) honorable mentions – one awarded by each judge - for non-winning but particularly appealing entries in a category of our own choosing and definition (e.g. "Best use of gardening tools in bottom bracket repair", "Looks cool but also like a death trap", "Most attractive rattle-can paint job" instead of pre-defined categories.)
Disclaimer:
Few will enter, even fewer will win.
Bikeforums is in no way responsible for the outcome of this contest. By entering you agree to abide by all rules and regulations, accept all judgments as final and fair, and you assume responsibility for ensuring the fairness of your own actions.
Entrants also waive all rights to their narratives and photos which may be reproduced and hosted off-site.
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12-12-09, 12:39 PM
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To all the builders, good luck, have fun and be safe.
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12-12-09, 03:27 PM
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Sounds good, I think I may have struck a good deal already.... A couple questions though. One, is there an age limit on bikes here? Two, is this road bikes only?
12-12-09, 03:32 PM
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But if it's got a rear suspension, there better be a really good reason. Just sayin'.
12-12-09, 03:42 PM
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Correct. No and no.
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12-12-09, 05:42 PM
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Are bikes we've already completed allowed? Any start/finish dates to attach to that? I'm asking because I completed a potential entry this summer.
12-12-09, 05:57 PM
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Capo #1, for which I paid $20 at a yard sale, would have qualified before the CyclArt paint job.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
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12-12-09, 06:00 PM
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12-12-09, 06:18 PM
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Question............I purchased a Schwinn Varsity this past summer that was equipped with a new set of MTB pedals and toe straps. I replaced the pedals with something more "appropriate" and turned the Varsity for a fair profit............Do I need to assess a value to these pedals if I wish to use them or can they be considered free?
12-12-09, 06:44 PM
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Question............I purchased a Schwinn Varsity this past summer that was equipped with a new set of MTB pedals and toe straps. I replaced the pedals with something more "appropriate" and turned the Varsity for a fair profit............Do I need to assess a value to these pedals if I wish to use them or can they be considered free?
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12-12-09, 06:58 PM
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Okay cool..........
parts bin pick, one "freebie" everything after is assessed value,
all trash pick is fair game..............
parts bin pick, one "freebie" everything after is assessed value,
all trash pick is fair game..............
12-12-09, 07:01 PM
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Everyone, if you are participating in the contest, please PM mkeller234 with your registration information if you haven't already done so. Your Full Name and Bikeforums Screen Name.
Thanks,
-Shin
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12-14-09, 06:44 PM
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Bump, we should get a sticky on this!
12-17-09, 01:09 AM
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I'll be registering.
So there's no required start time, just a required finish time?
So there's no required start time, just a required finish time?
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12-17-09, 02:31 AM
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Yeah, you can start whenever you like. The registration deadline is Feb 1st and the completed entry has to be in by March 1st.
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12-19-09, 12:58 PM
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Another bump.. how's everyone's projects going eh?
12-19-09, 02:10 PM
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I haven't even started. I better get cracking. I have a lot of spare bikes, about 20 or more. It's hard to form ideas at this point. I want to do some sort of major transformation.
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12-19-09, 02:20 PM
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I'd like to play too, but don't have any potential winners currently waiting for work. I hope I find something before its too late.
12-19-09, 02:40 PM
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I think I have all the pieces I need and most of them cleaned, lubed, and polished. Next I need the painters at work to find the time to spray it for me - probably after the holidays.
12-19-09, 02:42 PM
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12-19-09, 02:48 PM
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The tires I ordered arrived yesterday, so I did some experimenting with fit today. I think it'll work!
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12-19-09, 03:03 PM
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I'll sticky the thread after the Secret Santa thread comes off.
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12-19-09, 05:15 PM
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Mine's going pretty well, too. Just waiting unusually long for parts from pricepoint... odd because they're usually good at fast shipping. Must be x-mas season I s'pose!
12-29-09, 02:19 PM
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I have a variation on the freebie question: Suppose you acquired a dumpster bike and sold the groupset for a price high enough that you were able to purchase all new parts and have money left over... Does the entire bike count as a single freebie even though it was complete? Does the dollar value count on the new parts you 'traded' for?
12-29-09, 02:59 PM
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I have a variation on the freebie question: Suppose you acquired a dumpster bike and sold the groupset for a price high enough that you were able to purchase all new parts and have money left over... Does the entire bike count as a single freebie even though it was complete? Does the dollar value count on the new parts you 'traded' for?
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