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SingleSpeeDemon 12-30-09 10:03 PM

Help ID My Frame?
 
I purchased this frame off of eBay. All I know it that it's a 54cm, made of Columbus Aelle tubing (maybe all tubes?) and has nice touches such as plated dropout faces and drive-side chainstay. It looks like a decent frame, but I am not kidding myself into thinking I found a gold mine.

Any ideas what this could be?

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140008.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140009.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140010.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140011.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140012.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140013.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9_06140014.jpg

EjustE 12-30-09 10:34 PM

This is just a quick guess: Mondonico (based on the seat stay sig)

I suspect that the BB is italian (70 vs 68mm)

Aelle was good steel. Columbus' answer to 531 and about the same weight (almost). But... that sticker was probably applied after the new paint job and it is fairly questionable that it belongs there...

Measure the bottom bracket, the rear spacing, the thickness of the ST, and figure out what size seat post this takes and lots of people might help you here. Those lugs look like Cinelli to me, with a custom BB lug cut out. 99% sure that's an Italian bike.

SingleSpeeDemon 12-31-09 06:59 AM

Thank you for your input.

The frame is soon on its way from Europe...once it gets here I will hopefully have more information to share. The seller represented the frame as NOS, so I was under the hopeful assumption that it is not a repaint, but that doesn't account for the lack of decals.

bbattle 12-31-09 08:09 AM

It's definitely Italian though I wouldn't say it is a Mondonico. Probably a local builder or contract builder like Biemmezata built it. The pantographed dove should be easy enough for the true experts. I've not seen it before except it looks a lot like the Columbus dove.

Bianchigirll 12-31-09 10:35 AM

I tend to agree it is likely Italian. perhaps it was built for a local team and never used. did you buy it from Franz in the netherlands?

SingleSpeeDemon 12-31-09 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 10209181)
...did you buy it from Franz in the netherlands?

I purchased it from a seller in Hungary. Whatever the frame is, at $61 I figure it's not too much of a gamble. I have an 8-Speed Athena group that has been looking for a frame.

EjustE 12-31-09 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 10209181)
I tend to agree it is likely Italian. perhaps it was built for a local team and never used.

Hard to see this as a team bike without a FD braze on and a number hanger on the TT.

SingleSpeeDemon 12-31-09 12:14 PM

Does anyone know of a good source for a chrome fork for a 15cm headtube?

Bianchigirll 12-31-09 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by EjustE (Post 10209621)
Hard to see this as a team bike without a FD braze on and a number hanger on the TT.

I didn't mean a Pro team just a local team like out of a store or something. front der brazeon? HA we were lucky to shifter bosses on the frames we got from 10spd drive

bbattle 01-01-10 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon (Post 10209649)
Does anyone know of a good source for a chrome fork for a 15cm headtube?

Check out Soma's forks. They have them painted or chrome. http://store.somafab.com/somaforks.html

If you're not sure which size to get, send them an e-mail.

bicyclridr4life 01-01-10 12:24 PM

Cinelli maybe? I think Cinelli used that bird for a while but am prob. wrong ...

SingleSpeeDemon 01-01-10 06:45 PM

Don't event get me thinking that it could be a Cinelli.

Bianchigirll 01-01-10 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by bbattle (Post 10212998)
Check out Soma's forks. They have them painted or chrome. http://store.somafab.com/somaforks.html

If you're not sure which size to get, send them an e-mail.

thanks for the link! I have been looking for that straigh blade fork. for the OPs bike I think he needs the 200mm. with the 150mm headtube that give him 50mm for a headset.

SingleSpeeDemon 01-02-10 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 10214383)
thanks for the link! I have been looking for that straigh blade fork. for the OPs bike I think he needs the 200mm. with the 150mm headtube that give him 50mm for a headset.

Thanks for the info. I have been looking at SOMA's forks for a while myself. I didn't measure the height of my headset, which is Campy Athena, but from the looks of things 200mm is spot-on.

SingleSpeeDemon 01-22-10 03:18 PM

I just got the frame this week. It looks great, the paint is nice, the chrome is excellent and the lugs have been thinned quite nicely. Unfortunatley, there is no serial number or other indicator of the frame's origin. I wasn't looking for a collector's piece, but it would be nice to know about it's history.

Anyway...I will be building it up with an 8 speed Athena Group. Pictures will follow when it's done.


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