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Old 09-23-18, 10:44 AM
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I have this baby coming. Anyone have any idea as to vintage, model?
How do you work those brake levers? Looks like a long reach from anywhere on the bars.
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Old 09-23-18, 12:53 PM
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Here's my Vitus, guarded by some dusty lego

I also had an old Peugot as my first road bike, basically a pint sized touring bike, but I don't have any pics of that.
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Old 09-23-18, 02:23 PM
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Great looking bike! What's the tubing
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Originally Posted by curbtender View Post
How do you work those brake levers? Looks like a long reach from anywhere on the bars.
You brake from about the same position as riding on the hoods. You can't brake from the drops. I have them on my PX-50.
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Originally Posted by themidge View Post
Here's my Vitus, guarded by some dusty lego

I also had an old Peugot as my first road bike, basically a pint sized touring bike, but I don't have any pics of that.
A lot of companies re-branded Vitus 979's as their own, for some years, but I did not know that Benotto did it too......
I could not count anymore how many companies did this, as another one unknown to me keeps popping up, seemingly, ever few months.......
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It's not in my hands yet, but it looks like I am the owner of this Moto currently in transit. Best I can tell from looking at the catalogs from back then, it's probably a 1977. That's based on the crankset, which is not the TA used in earlier years, and the "Olimpic" 64 pedals which for a while I had convinced myself were NR. Atom 700 pedals seemed to be the pedal usually installeded. Based on the saddle and the rest of the bike in general, it doesn't look to me like it's seen a lot of use. Saddle doesn't appear to have dimples and in my experience, a Brooks saddle will dimple up pretty quickly.

Don't know what to say about the replacement derailleur, the stem shifter, and the safety levers other than that the original buyer may have requested those items. Based on the pedal reflectors (left side has both front and rear), I'd guess that those "Olimpic" pedals have never seen toe clips leading me to suspect that it may have been bought by someone not interested in the "sport" nature of the cycle, but who knows. Large freewheel sprocket looks pretty big so I'm suspecting that the NR derailleur was replaced in order to handle a larger cog. Anyway, whether it be French threaded or English threaded, I have a freewheel compatible with a NR derailleur and I have a currently unemployed patent 72 NR to install. For shifters, probably install SunTour barcons though might use some NR DT shifters, also on hand.

It's pretty dirty and, no doubt, needs complete servicing, but that's what it's all about. TA cranks -- the old Park crank tool had a normal end and a TA end -- finally, after about 30 years, I'll get to use the TA end.

Have some MAFAC Racers, and it's tempting.
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Old 09-23-18, 05:48 PM
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I don’t have it yet. Coming from France. I plan on putting some porteur bars on with inverted brake levers as soon as I get it.
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The French had so much more style than Americans in the 50s!
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Old 10-01-18, 06:57 AM
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1979 GITANE "Trophée"

My 1979 GITANE "Trophée"...on the Col d'IZOARD...


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Old 10-01-18, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post

It's not in my hands yet, but it looks like I am the owner of this Moto currently in transit. Best I can tell from looking at the catalogs from back then, it's probably a 1977. That's based on the crankset, which is not the TA used in earlier years, and the "Olimpic" 64 pedals which for a while I had convinced myself were NR. Atom 700 pedals seemed to be the pedal usually installeded. Based on the saddle and the rest of the bike in general, it doesn't look to me like it's seen a lot of use. Saddle doesn't appear to have dimples and in my experience, a Brooks saddle will dimple up pretty quickly.

Don't know what to say about the replacement derailleur, the stem shifter, and the safety levers other than that the original buyer may have requested those items. Based on the pedal reflectors (left side has both front and rear), I'd guess that those "Olimpic" pedals have never seen toe clips leading me to suspect that it may have been bought by someone not interested in the "sport" nature of the cycle, but who knows. Large freewheel sprocket looks pretty big so I'm suspecting that the NR derailleur was replaced in order to handle a larger cog. Anyway, whether it be French threaded or English threaded, I have a freewheel compatible with a NR derailleur and I have a currently unemployed patent 72 NR to install. For shifters, probably install SunTour barcons though might use some NR DT shifters, also on hand.

It's pretty dirty and, no doubt, needs complete servicing, but that's what it's all about. TA cranks -- the old Park crank tool had a normal end and a TA end -- finally, after about 30 years, I'll get to use the TA end.

Have some MAFAC Racers, and it's tempting.
Cool bike; I'm looking forward to seeing the build pictures. What do you think you are going to do to it?
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Old 10-01-18, 07:21 AM
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This is my "new" 1973 Motobecane Grand Record as found in the "wild." I haven't decided yet how I plan to rebuild it. I'm torn between leaving it largely alone or changing out the gearing to make it more "eroica" ready with a long cage RD and later Motos did come with suntour running gear. There are some hilly rides in the driftless region of the midwest that I'd love to take this bike out on. The TA double has real possibilities in terms of gearing and a suntour cyclone would look tasty on this bike (and shift better than the campy RD!).



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Old 10-01-18, 08:31 AM
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Here's my Motobecane. 1974 Grand Touring.


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Old 10-01-18, 11:10 AM
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Finally back on the bike after my accident - here's my Gitane after its first outing for nearly three months.

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Old 10-01-18, 01:00 PM
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Well I put it back together for mu brother. He want a steel road bike, and a city type bike.

that Berthoud guy makes nice stuff.



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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Cool bike; I'm looking forward to seeing the build pictures. What do you think you are going to do to it?
I'm not real sure about it yet. The stem shifters have to go --will install bar end shifters. Campagnolo had barcons, but my understanding is that they're inferior to the old Sun Tour ratcheting shifters, the new DiaCompe "silver" and the old Shimano spring compensated barcons from the 70s/80s. Probably use some Suntour ones I have on hand, but I also have Campagnolo NR DT shifters so may try those. Been so long since I used them, can't recall how well they worked.

Brakes, I have some MAFAC levers and repro half hoods and am buying some MAFAC Competition calipers and those will go on. They didn't put MAFACS on these bikes, but I like them anyway.

Wheels: depends on the condition of the Normandy Luxe hubs. If they're good, I'll probably just use the 27" wheels with Rigida rims that are on there. Also depends on how ugly the spokes are. I hate to put a lot of effort into a bike and then have nasty galvanized spokes. If I replace the wheels, it will probably be NisiSludi rims and Mavic hubs, but I have some new Sun M13 II rims in 700C that would be ok and 36h for the Normandy Luxe hubs. Who knows. I have this notion banging around in my head that 27" wheels need to be 86'd whenever found, but when I try to rationally justify that prejudice, I can't -- there are decent tire options for 27" and I have Presta Savers.

The "Ben Hur" TA chainset is, according to the catalog for 1977, original to the bike and is 54/40 (or fight). I may replace the sprockets with something smaller as a 54 is sort of big for me. Lots of options there. Currently, the chainset has 4 concentric circles -- two guards and two sprockets. Removing the outer guard and replacing the inner with spacers may be an option. But, the current arrangement is rather startling, and that's not necessarily bad.

Plan on using a NR rear derailleur, currently the bike has what appears to be Suntour VX GT. Depending on the rear hub (English or French) I may use a Suntour ultra 6 13-24 freewheel or an Atom 13-21: thus the temptation for finding smaller rings for the front. Or, I may try the long cage mod that Soma sells and see how the NR RD shifts with 28 or larger rear.

So, my plans are mostly to make few changes except for the brakes and shifters and RD, clean, service, and upgrade/repair as necessary. Best I can tell, the paint and chrome are decent and no decal replacement or refinishing should be necessary. Some parts need OA, but that's typical.
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@desconhecido, don't be hasty in removing the stem shifters. Those are very good shifters. Campy bar end shifters (the old friction type) get bad reviews a lot. @ascherer tried them recently and said they suck. Back in the 70s and 80s, stem shifters came only on bikes up to a certain point in the lineup, just below the midpoint. We associated them with crappy bikes. But they work well. If you can over having the doofy look of them, you might like them. Then again, SunTour ratcheting bar end shifters are also very good.
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Old 10-02-18, 11:45 AM
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+1 on that noglider. When I overhauled my Grand Jubile Mixte, was going to swap stem shifters to for some SunTour Barcons I had, but after riding it a few times with stems, found they work just fine, so decided to just keep it that way. Bike will eventually end up with 1 of my grand daughters and ladies seem to like stem shifters. Don
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@desconhecido, don't be hasty in removing the stem shifters. Those are very good shifters. Campy bar end shifters (the old friction type) get bad reviews a lot. @ascherer tried them recently and said they suck.
I did? I don't think I've ever used Campy barcons.
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I did? I don't think I've ever used Campy barcons.
Oh. Which were the ones you tried and didn't like? Were they Simplex?
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I put Campy bar end shifters on a bike with some hesitation - I really expected to have issues with them especially considering the number of bikes I have equipped with the Suntour variants. Pleasantly surprised though, they've been no problem and work well for me, not really better or worse than Suntour, just different. But that's me. I also have a set of Simplex barcons I got from a forum member waiting for just the right bike - one day soon I'll find out how those behave.
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I probably posted this before photobucket ate the web. Never did figure out who made this frame.
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Oh. Which were the ones you tried and didn't like? Were they Simplex?
I have a set of Simplex barcons that I put on my International, yes. I'd used them on a MTB > drop bar conversion some years back. They work just fine, although I had the impression that they took an extra bit of trimming with a 7-speed freewheel. I changed to downtube shifters on the International mostly for aesthetics.
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They say that as we get older, the memory is the second thing to go.
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They say that as we get older, the memory is the second thing to go.
To go? No, I'll eat here.
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another vitus . love the red



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