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Old 09-22-14, 10:02 AM
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Beautiful Bertin!
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Old 09-22-14, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bertinjim View Post
I've just finished the restoration of my 70s Bertin C 37 and decided to share the details.

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Beautiful Bertin!
Yep, that's a really nice looking bike. Nice work.
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Old 09-22-14, 05:48 PM
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$50 thrift store find Motobecane Grand Jubilee.
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Old 09-22-14, 06:02 PM
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Sorry for the crummy pix. In person it's a very hi res bike. Does anyone know what year this might be?
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Old 09-22-14, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Motolegs View Post
Sorry for the crummy pix. In person it's a very hi res bike. Does anyone know what year this might be?
Here's an '82 that looks pretty close.
bulgier.net - /pics/bike/Catalogs/Motobecane/

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Old 09-22-14, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Motolegs View Post
Sorry for the crummy pix. In person it's a very hi res bike. Does anyone know what year this might be?
From the braze-on details (and the lack of such in some areas, plus the non-flush brake pivot bolt nut, the flat fork crown, I'd say that it's most likely from the mid to late 70's...
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Old 09-23-14, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
From the braze-on details (and the lack of such in some areas, plus the non-flush brake pivot bolt nut, the flat fork crown, I'd say that it's most likely from the mid to late 70's...
Chombi,
@Motolegs bike is almost certainly a 1982 or there abouts Grand Jubile, maybe...


I have a number of Motobecane Grand Jubile bikes from 1974 through 1980. One of them, the 1974 was a dump bike that had gone through a trash compactor truck. Amazingly, aside from the paint, there was no damage to the frame. I realigned it anyway.

The frame is 57cm with a 57cm top tube. the 3 main tubes are butted Reynolds 531 while the forks and stays are made of seamed light gage carbon steel tubing. It's a very comfortable riding bike and handles great.

These were originally designed as fast touring models. The name coincided with the release of Huret's Jubilee derailleurs in late 1973. I've heard that the early bikes were called Grand "Jubilee" not Grand "Jubile". They first appeared in the 1974 Motobecane catalog and had the short pulley cage Jubilee rear derailleur. The early 1975 bikes came with long arm Jubilee derailleurs which were pretty flimsy for a touring bike. From late 1975 on they came with Suntour Cyclone derailleurs. The rear Cyclones had the long arm touring pulley cage. The 1976 models had mostly Japanese components.

I built the 1974 with period correct components.



My 1980 Grand Jubile is also a 57cm but the top tube is 60cm long! It's made of Vitus 172 tubing and has a longer wheelbase - the same geometry as the lower priced Motobecane Grand Touring model(compare the distance from the rear wheel to the seat tube on both bikes).

The ride is nothing like my 1974 GJ. The older bike is much smoother riding!



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Old 09-23-14, 04:49 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. Although looks wise the ad comes real close, it's equipped with Weinmann brakes and a Suntour Cyclone RD. No water bottle lugs.. fascinating smooth riding bike. (changed saddle for comfort while keeping the original- also installed a Twofish water bottle cage with velcro strap and new Kenda k35 rubber. What a nice riding machine.)
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Originally Posted by bertinjim View Post
I've just finished the restoration of my 70s Bertin C 37 and decided to share the details.

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Old 09-23-14, 05:53 AM
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Yes indeed. Beautiful. Love that color.
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Old 09-23-14, 08:34 AM
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Thanks for doing the enlargement. I tried for about two hours to upsize the format but all I got were error messages and deeply annoyed. Much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
Here's an '82 that looks pretty close.
bulgier.net - /pics/bike/Catalogs/Motobecane/

Just noticed that Motobecane changed the name from "Grand Jubile" back to "Grand Jubilee in this 1982 catalog... ???

1974 Catalog



1975 Catalog



1976 Catalog



Motolegs,

Remember, catalogs were just advertizing!

"les spécifications sont sujettes à modification sans préavis" (specifications subject to change without notice")

There were no Specification Police so your bike is probably the model pictured in the 1982 catalog page give or take a year! Bike makers were notorious for changing or substituting EVERYTHING on the spec sheets.

For example, the 1974, 75 and 76 catalog pages pictured above state that the Grand Jubile frames were made of Reynolds 531 tubing when in fact, only the 3 main frame tubes were Reynolds tubes.

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Old 09-24-14, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bertinjim View Post
I've just finished the restoration of my 70s Bertin C 37 and decided to share the details.

Magnifique!
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Old 09-24-14, 05:12 AM
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verktyg- thanks for taking the time to enlighten! The mystery adds to the appeal!
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Old 09-25-14, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bertinjim View Post
I've just finished the restoration of my 70s Bertin C 37 and decided to share the details.


That bike is drop dead gorgeous. Love the tape and the cable housing, it pops! I'm working on a white early 1970's Manufrance Hirondelle (will take and post pictures this weekend). The last thing I need is a saddle. Someone replaced the original with a modern Bontrager. Nice saddle with Ti rails and actually looks good, but it's just not "right". The original was kind of big and ugly, but your Brooks would be perfect. Do you know the model?
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Hi, Minnesota Expat-

Thanks for the comments. The saddle is an original Brooks Professional from the 1970s and was a take-off from one of my brother's Raleighs (an International, if I recall correctly). There are a couple of detailed shots of the saddle here about halfway down the page. Modern Pros have been restyled and have a hooded nose rather than the cut away version of the older saddles and also have the large rivets rather than the smaller copper ones like mine. Wallingford Bikes has some good shots here.
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Originally Posted by J van B View Post
After lurking for some time i decided to sign up,great looking bikes in here!

Big fan of Peugeot 10 speeds myself,here's my main rider:

This bike was unused when i bought it,was stored on an attic for a long time and was a display bike in a bike shop before i got it.
It only goes out when the weather is perfect,think i rode only a couple hundred km. on it:

So i'm pretty sure these are both 1978 PX-8's but if any of you experts think it's another model please let me know.
I'm drooling over these, gorgeous colors. I've aso never sene or even heard of them in these colors before.
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Old 09-26-14, 09:39 PM
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My 1950`s Criterium (please do not make fun of the paint. She still thinks she is young and beautiful)




I think she is beautiful.
You are correct. She is a beauty!
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Old 09-27-14, 02:25 AM
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Thank you. With all the mint beauty`s in here I was not sure I should even post it up.
Don't be ridiculous. As perfect as a warm baguette.
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Old 09-27-14, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bertinjim View Post
Hi, Minnesota Expat-

Thanks for the comments. The saddle is an original Brooks Professional from the 1970s and was a take-off from one of my brother's Raleighs (an International, if I recall correctly). There are a couple of detailed shots of the saddle here about halfway down the page. Modern Pros have been restyled and have a hooded nose rather than the cut away version of the older saddles and also have the large rivets rather than the smaller copper ones like mine. Wallingford Bikes has some good shots here.
Thanks! Off to eBay.
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Some really beautiful bikes here! I have three late 70's/early 80's Motobecanes and a load of vintage parts that I inherited from my dad when he passed away (Miss you dad!). Unfortunately I have not been able to get back home to pick them up yet. But I will gladly post pictures here as soon as I get them home. I definitely want to get them before the next Tour de Cure here in April because I want to be able to ride one of his bikes in his memory since he was diabetic.
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I finally found a nice French bike that should be here in about a week. Just going to tease you guys now and will post photos when she arrives. If someone guesses correctly what it is I may (or may not) confirm what it is.
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My last purchase, this 1986 PEUGEOT P10 S I have upgraded it with a SHIMANO "arabesque" crankset, LYOTAR alloy pedals, ROYAL sadle , PHILIPPE alloy handlebar, HELICOMATIC and alloy wheels : it has a "carbolite 103 frame ; now it is not a 10 speeds but a 12 speeds .

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My last purchase, this 1986 PEUGEOT P10 S I have upgraded it with a SHIMANO "arabesque" crankset, LYOTAR alloy pedals, ROYAL sadle , PHILIPPE alloy handlebar, HELICOMATIC and alloy wheels : it has a "carbolite 103 frame ; now it is not a 10 speeds but a 12 speeds .

Oh c'mon Papic! - That was not your "last purchase" - just your most recent!
- A good looking one too. I think the graphics that year were pretty snazzy, but look best on white.
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just bought this tatty old girl . I feel a full restore coming on ! Anyone want to venture a guess as to age ?
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