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#2901
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jboisleduc-
I think CV-6 is correct. You have a Carre/Lejeune in Elvish livery. The distinctive Carre stay caps, fishmouth dropout finish, brake bridge reinforcement and braze-on seat bolt ears all say Carre. The Lejeunes he built, however, had that particular arrangement of the top tube brake cable stops and that unique cable guide for the rear derailleur on the drive side seat stay. So cool that the bike is so meaningful to you and the lack of a serial is often the case with Carre builds. My Carre/Bertin C 37 doesn't have one either.
I think CV-6 is correct. You have a Carre/Lejeune in Elvish livery. The distinctive Carre stay caps, fishmouth dropout finish, brake bridge reinforcement and braze-on seat bolt ears all say Carre. The Lejeunes he built, however, had that particular arrangement of the top tube brake cable stops and that unique cable guide for the rear derailleur on the drive side seat stay. So cool that the bike is so meaningful to you and the lack of a serial is often the case with Carre builds. My Carre/Bertin C 37 doesn't have one either.
#2902
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jboisleduc-
I think CV-6 is correct. You have a Carre/Lejeune in Elvish livery. The distinctive Carre stay caps, fishmouth dropout finish, brake bridge reinforcement and braze-on seat bolt ears all say Carre. The Lejeunes he built, however, had that particular arrangement of the top tube brake cable stops and that unique cable guide for the rear derailleur on the drive side seat stay. So cool that the bike is so meaningful to you and the lack of a serial is often the case with Carre builds. My Carre/Bertin C 37 doesn't have one either.
I think CV-6 is correct. You have a Carre/Lejeune in Elvish livery. The distinctive Carre stay caps, fishmouth dropout finish, brake bridge reinforcement and braze-on seat bolt ears all say Carre. The Lejeunes he built, however, had that particular arrangement of the top tube brake cable stops and that unique cable guide for the rear derailleur on the drive side seat stay. So cool that the bike is so meaningful to you and the lack of a serial is often the case with Carre builds. My Carre/Bertin C 37 doesn't have one either.
#2903
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Based on the 531 decal, after 1973. Prior to 1979 on the other end. Those decals could have been left over but the overall characteristics of the frame tend to put the end range date on it. The cutouts in the lugs are indicative of a top of the line frame. Carré built for a lot of brands, but until this frame, I never saw another brand other than Lejeune having the seat stay cable guide as pointed out by bertinjim.
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#2907
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Based on the 531 decal, after 1973. Prior to 1979 on the other end. Those decals could have been left over but the overall characteristics of the frame tend to put the end range date on it. The cutouts in the lugs are indicative of a top of the line frame. Carré built for a lot of brands, but until this frame, I never saw another brand other than Lejeune having the seat stay cable guide as pointed out by bertinjim.
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#2908
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Bikes: '19 Fuji Gran Fondo 1.5, '72 Peugeot PX10, '71ish Gitane Super Corsa, '78 Fuji Newest, '89 Fuji Ace, '94 Cannondale R600, early '70s LeJeune Pro project
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I spent the afternoon yesterday at the Alex Singer 80th birthday event. I've uploaded a gallery of photos here
#2909
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jboisleduc-
I would think a very late 1960s or early 1970s production for your Carre/Lejeune/Elvish due to production details. Your bike's production details are similar to this Carre/Lejeunne:
There are further details here at Classic Factory lightweights including what is possibly Jan Janssen's TdF bike by Carre. Glad you are getting the background to the bike that the originally seller cannot or will not provide. Be aware that bikes were often re-decaled to suit racers who changed teams but not bikes. It was far easier and cheaper to re-spray and re-decal in a new livery than provide an amateur or semi-pro with new equipment.
I would think a very late 1960s or early 1970s production for your Carre/Lejeune/Elvish due to production details. Your bike's production details are similar to this Carre/Lejeunne:
There are further details here at Classic Factory lightweights including what is possibly Jan Janssen's TdF bike by Carre. Glad you are getting the background to the bike that the originally seller cannot or will not provide. Be aware that bikes were often re-decaled to suit racers who changed teams but not bikes. It was far easier and cheaper to re-spray and re-decal in a new livery than provide an amateur or semi-pro with new equipment.
#2910
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Tychom -
Thank you for sharing those Singer photos. Severe bike lust.
Thank you for sharing those Singer photos. Severe bike lust.
#2911
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jboisleduc-
I would think a very late 1960s or early 1970s production for your Carre/Lejeune/Elvish due to production details. Your bike's production details are similar to this Carre/Lejeunne:
There are further details here at Classic Factory lightweights including what is possibly Jan Janssen's TdF bike by Carre. Glad you are getting the background to the bike that the originally seller cannot or will not provide. Be aware that bikes were often re-decaled to suit racers who changed teams but not bikes. It was far easier and cheaper to re-spray and re-decal in a new livery than provide an amateur or semi-pro with new equipment.
I would think a very late 1960s or early 1970s production for your Carre/Lejeune/Elvish due to production details. Your bike's production details are similar to this Carre/Lejeunne:
There are further details here at Classic Factory lightweights including what is possibly Jan Janssen's TdF bike by Carre. Glad you are getting the background to the bike that the originally seller cannot or will not provide. Be aware that bikes were often re-decaled to suit racers who changed teams but not bikes. It was far easier and cheaper to re-spray and re-decal in a new livery than provide an amateur or semi-pro with new equipment.
I never mentionned bb shell is RGF, would it ring a bell?
Also the steerer has a piece of wood at the bottom...
I need to get that steerer off the bike and see if theres something stamped on it.
What components would you think it originally came with? Campy nuovo?
Not that im planning to bring it back to original, just curious...
#2913
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jboisleduc -
RGF was used frequently by builders of that period. The wood in the steerer is typical of high end French bikes of this time. The wood plug acted as a fail safe in case the steerer column broke at the crown/steering column joint. All 3 of my PX 10s had them and I know many other owners of French bikes had the same experience. The wood plug in combination with the brake fixing bolt acted to hold the steerer column and crown in case of failure. The steerer itself may be a Nervor or Reynolds and the brand will be stamped into the steerer just above the crown joint. If it's a 69-70s frameset, the OEM equipment will be high end French: Stronglight P3 or V4 headset and a 93 crankset, Normandy HF Luxe Competition hubs, Simplex F & R Criterium derailleurs, Simplex seatpost, a Brooks or Ideale saddle, Mafac Racer Brakes, and tubular rims and tires. An alternative would be early an Campy Nuovo Record gruppo.
RGF was used frequently by builders of that period. The wood in the steerer is typical of high end French bikes of this time. The wood plug acted as a fail safe in case the steerer column broke at the crown/steering column joint. All 3 of my PX 10s had them and I know many other owners of French bikes had the same experience. The wood plug in combination with the brake fixing bolt acted to hold the steerer column and crown in case of failure. The steerer itself may be a Nervor or Reynolds and the brand will be stamped into the steerer just above the crown joint. If it's a 69-70s frameset, the OEM equipment will be high end French: Stronglight P3 or V4 headset and a 93 crankset, Normandy HF Luxe Competition hubs, Simplex F & R Criterium derailleurs, Simplex seatpost, a Brooks or Ideale saddle, Mafac Racer Brakes, and tubular rims and tires. An alternative would be early an Campy Nuovo Record gruppo.
#2914
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i got her in 2004 with all 1985 shimano 600 components. now shes kind of an anachronic poutine. shes a mix of generations and origins but shes still the best climber i ever knowned...
#2916
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Just finished my 1972 Peugeot UO-8 Path Racer.
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#2919
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Just finished my 1972 Peugeot UO-8 Path Racer.
aceves
Very spiffy! Well done!!!
aceves
Very spiffy! Well done!!!
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#2921
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My recent find - Gold '73 Gitane Tour de France
Here's a gold Gitane TdF I bought off Craigslist in October. In high school (1973) I rode my first one all over Eastern North Carolina while my friends were riding Schwinns! Talk about follow the leader. So now, 45 years older and 50 lbs heavier, after looking for another TdF on Craigslist for 3 years (sold my first one in college, and regretted it ever since), I'm finally losing weight, getting over saddle sores and remembering why I love this model so much. Didn't know they produced gold ones though until I spotted this one...1973-4 model.
#2922
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Here is the Elvish bicycle that made me fall in love with cycling. It was given to me from a coworker that had it sitting in his garage. It came from his dad, but he didnt talk to him to anymore, so i was never able to get some piece of history from the previous owner. That bike litterally changed my life... I had been biking to commute in Montreal for years, but that bike was so smooth and fast, i fell in love. Also i have to admit i find her quite pretty.. I started pedaling for fun, loving Montreal's climbs, got in better shape then i had ever been. Biking in the townships on weekends, I discovered i was a natural climber.. I could keep going on that love story but i wont haha! Lets get to more technical stuff
She went through some upgrades along the years. Got her with all Shimano 600 12 speed 1985 groupset, upgraded with dura ace 2x9speed. Frame was streched to fit a larger cassette. Upgraded the original Rigida wheelset to Campy nucleon. It has Campagnolo dropouts. Reynolds 531 tubing. French threaded cranks were retapped by Marinoni to fit standard thread clipless pedals(currently speedplay). BBcups are still french thread Shimano600, but axle was replaced. Unfortunately, i have never found the serial number on this bike, but it feels older than the 85 groupset i got it with.
She went through some upgrades along the years. Got her with all Shimano 600 12 speed 1985 groupset, upgraded with dura ace 2x9speed. Frame was streched to fit a larger cassette. Upgraded the original Rigida wheelset to Campy nucleon. It has Campagnolo dropouts. Reynolds 531 tubing. French threaded cranks were retapped by Marinoni to fit standard thread clipless pedals(currently speedplay). BBcups are still french thread Shimano600, but axle was replaced. Unfortunately, i have never found the serial number on this bike, but it feels older than the 85 groupset i got it with.
#2923
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This post is probably illegal since this bike is only 10 years old and it is not steel. My other 16 bikes are all vintage steel. Here is my 2008 Look 585 plastic bike.
#2924
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She was covered in a thick layer of grime, grease and dust when I first met her in a shopping mall parking lot, a CL transaction. Overhauled everything, changed some things (chainrings, stem, saddle), added fenders, built new set of wheels, and glued on my first tubulars. I got a little carried away, arguably, but I learned so much. And she rides so sweetly.
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#2925
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She was covered in a thick layer of grime, grease and dust when I first met her in a shopping mall parking lot, a CL transaction. Overhauled everything, changed some things (crankset, stem, saddle), added fenders, built new set of wheels, and glued on my first tubulars. I got a little carried away, arguably, but I learned so much. And she rides so sweetly.