vintage paramount tandem
 

i just picked this up yesterday with the blessing of cudak. at this point after getting ripped off one to many times due to me oversealousness and ignorance, i always try to get an expert opinion BEFORE i buy. anyway, i already took it out and it rides like a dream.
i have a couple of questions i hope someone can help me with. first, where do i check to find the year(there is a serial number on the head tube but not sure if that has it on. secondly, and more importantly......the crank arm that has the chain rings on is the only on out of the four that is ok to put a look type pedal on it correctly, the other three are all reverse......in other words the only way i can put a look pedal on is backwards. it will be fine with flat pedals but with anything else...forget it. can i switch the threads on the look pedals(switch the right with the left)? any suggestions very much appreciated. joe

Why is it that Schwinn tandems have the non-parallel top tubes? I never get comfortable looking at them. Looks like it is in great shape!

It draws the eyes away from the bent fork?

Fork looks decent to me - the tire doesn't look like it's seating right.

If the other pedals won't take the right pedals, then those are not genuine tandem cranks, Joe. What about the second set of cranks the seller said he'd include - are those also a cobbled tandem set? If so, I'd see about trying to trade a combination of the TA sets for a proper tandem crankset group, perhaps Campag Record.

-Kurt

24" captain, 22" stoker. I realize it's odd to look at, but it's better then the 22" + mixte examples, IMO.

-Kurt

i would just put right pedal axles in th left pedals. use a little light duty loctite and all will be fine.

my dad built a full Campagnolo 8spd tandem (racing t cranks included) when 8 speed came out and we have yet to have a pedal fall off. (thousands and thousands of miles)

we used Shimano 747 spd pedals, on the captins set we swapped the axles from left to right and on the rear, we bought an extra right axle and put it in the left pedal.

OUCH!

Granted, some pedals have tighter threads then others, but I wouldn't recommend this on anything but disposable hardware; certainly not on TA Pro 5 Vis arms.

-Kurt

so thirdgenbird, i wonder if switching the axels in the older look pedals is do able? havent tried it yet. cudak, called seller and he didnt have an extra set of cranks. i guess ill keep my eyes open for a possible trade as you said i dont think these ta s are meant for tandems. i guess the cupertino bike shop, where the seller bought this put the ta cranks on as that may have been all they had in stock

See if you can get the seller down to $250 for these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Campy-Super-Reco...item45f0201052

-Kurt

Well, I am about ready to give up on this place again, Log in, it says welcome repechage, then advises I do not have permission to look at the images. I can text reply...maybe if this goes through, but images, only every other time.

our tandem has been set up this way for something like 12 years and its seen many rides and even a few tandem races and we have not even seen a pedal come loose (we do carry a short pedal wrench on longer rides though)

i guess i dont see any reason it wouldnt work. just make sure your bearings are in very good condition and keep an eye on them. this solution "could" fail but ours has not in many many hard miles.

my dad is about 200 lbs and im 175 and we have stood for climb and sprints with no worries. well, no worries about the pedals that is...

This need is totally overblown. If it's so important, why aren't pedal's cones alternate threads? And all those BB that aren't alternate threaded...oh, the horror!

Great score. Some day I hope to find one in my neck of the woods.

wow! i would have loved to gotten those. well, you know i already bought the bike. i doubt if he will give me a refund but ill try. you know, i still love the bike and, if nothing else, ill ride it with flat pedals as i wont be racing it anyway. i wonder if you can put old campy pedals on reversed order and just move the toe clip assembly backwards?

+1

an mks touring pedal should work in that fashion. $40-60 hould get you a set of two as well. mks maked decent stuff just take it apart and put good grease in it before you install them.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=131417

What browser are you using? I've been frustrated as Jell because I hadn't been able to stay signed in since the upgrade. I'd tried everthing (turning off adblocker, etc.), but couldn't figure it out. But, I tried Internet Explorer ( I'd been using Mozilla Firefox), and all is now well. Wish I'd figured it out 2 months ago!

ive got a netbook with firefox/linux and it works fine

it also works on my laptop with a dual boot setup:

safari/osx

Internet explorer/windows xp

Wait - my fault. I thought he was threading standard left pedals into right-hand drive cranks, not swapping the axles.

:eek:

-Kurt

Even better, a set of MKS Sylvan (NR knockoff) road pedals:

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...4e062cab8aecda

-Kurt

haha, no wonder you were shocked. swapping axles work great though :)

these are great but do not allow you to install the toe clip "backwards" the holes are only on the front. these would work great with swapped axles though.

You aren't the only one, my latest version Firefox won't stay logged on for more than 10 minutes.

Great tandem! Enjoy riding the heck out of it.

Yes, that would be real bad!

I was thinking of swapping the spindle axles on the Sylvans. After all, the Sylvans - and a number of other MKS pedals - always come with the bearings adjusted too tight from factory, requiring that you repack and re-adjust them anyway. A Campagnolo tool is all that is needed to take them apart, and I'm sure Joe has that, if not the whole set.

Plus, there are tons of them out there, and I bet a couple of fixie riders have some wrecked sets for sale, ripe for spindle plundering ;)

http://www.jaysmarine.com/campytoolkit.jpg

-Kurt

lotek posted this earlier today. It might solve your issue.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post10232670



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