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Old 01-30-10, 05:15 PM
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Raleigh Road Bike - Please ID !

Hello all,

I am clearing out my garage and came across this frame that I was given a number of years ago. The frame is quite light and made of 531c reynolds tubing. The frame also states it was " Made in England" with a serial number of "8710640".

I am contemplating rebuilding the bike but dont know the original specs. Is it worth rebuilding (in ohther words, spending $ on) ?

I have searched all over the net and cannot find a frame identical to this one to use as a guide - please assist.





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Old 01-30-10, 05:25 PM
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Whatever model it is, it's a high-quality frame, worth spending some money on.
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Looks like a late 70's Raleigh Professional to me but the real Raleigh experts will be along shortly and they'll tell you what day the bike was made.
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looks more like the "racing usa" models than a professional. Maybe you got lucky and its actually a Marinoni
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Originally Posted by bbattle View Post
Looks like a late 70's Raleigh Professional to me but the real Raleigh experts will be along shortly and they'll tell you what day the bike was made.
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looks more like the "racing usa" models than a professional. Maybe you got lucky and its actually a Marinoni
This is not a 70s bike. The serial number and the cable routing makes it at least mid 80s non-Raleigh USA model. I would not be surprised if it is later than that and has 130mm rear spacing
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Old 01-30-10, 09:21 PM
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Thanks for all your help so far. A little more info:

The bike has the decal "Raleigh USA" on the top bar. it also has a "SunTour" headset but I dont know if this is original. I would'nt think a 531c frame and forks would be ideally mated by a SunTour headset - though I could be wrong.

As I said I have looked at many, many posts and have yet to come across the same color scheme as this one...or a similar frame serial number.

Please keep suggesting - i would love to find out a little history on the bike.
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... I would'nt think a 531c frame and forks would be ideally mated by a SunTour headset - though I could be wrong...
I don't see why it couldn't be. English threading is English threading.

Not sure what it is, but the "at least mid 80's" call seems right.
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Those look like tubular rims. Tubulars are a interesting part of bike racing.
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What kind of ends are on the frame. That might distinguish the model.
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It's a good quality frame. “Raleigh USA” and “Made in England” should narrow the time slot down, no? Once RUSA got started, the frames began coming from the Far East pretty quickly; unless this was a team frame. Also, the “Fork Stays, Blades and Butted Frame Tubes” syntax on the R531C sticker make it seem later rather than earlier.
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It's a good quality frame. “Raleigh USA” and “Made in England” should narrow the time slot down, no? Once RUSA got started, the frames began coming from the Far East pretty quickly; unless this was a team frame. Also, the “Fork Stays, Blades and Butted Frame Tubes” syntax on the R531C sticker make it seem later rather than earlier.
This was probably after the sale of Raleigh USA from Huffy to Derby International at 1987, thus the re-sourcing of British bikes instead of Asian-made to the States
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Post-'86 Team Pro Replica.

I've never seen that serial system before, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the "8" stood for 1988, or the "87" stands for 1987. Either way, '86-89 is around the range you're looking at.

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Originally Posted by CV-6 View Post
What kind of ends are on the frame. That might distinguish the model.
The ends are not stamped with anything. Thanks for all your help guys. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a model consensus. I am still not sure what to do with it...
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Originally Posted by magohn View Post
Unfortunately there does not seem to be a model consensus.
I told you what it is - a post-1986 Team Pro Replica. Take my word for it.

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Thank you Kurt - sorry for my hesitation but it is only because I have never seen a "Pro" in this particular color scheme. Is it worth putting $ into?

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Originally Posted by magohn View Post
Thank you Kurt - sorry for my hesitation but it is only because I have never seen a "Pro" in this particular color scheme. Is it worth putting $ into?

Thanks, magohn

I did a little digging and the 1987 Raleigh Team Track bike, came in the same yellow and red color as yours. I assume that you don't have a Track frame...

IMHO this is very worth building. Punt a seven speed Dura Ace group on it and enjoy riding it
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nice looking bike. love the wheels
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Originally Posted by magohn View Post
Is it worth putting $ into?

Thanks, magohn
If its your size, you bet! Build it up with a nice, period group, or go full modern, if you wish. You won't regret it.

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Thanks for all you input but on serious reflection I don't think I have the $ to restore the bike to its former glory. With the economy and all I dont think the wife would be thrilled with me dropping $ on yet ANOTHER bike. <moderator edited>

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Thanks for all you input but on serious reflection I don't think I have the $ to restore the bike to its former glory. With the economy and all I dont think the wife would be thrilled with me dropping $ on yet ANOTHER bike. <moderator edited>

Thanks, magohn
I know you would rather see something happen with it, but you're not going to find another in this size, and in this condition. If you must sell, CL or e-Bay would be more appropriate venues.
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A little late but... I recently acquired a similar bike. The frame has been repainted white with late 80s, early 90s Raleigh USA Technium Team decals in purple, red and gold. The most common Technium Team decals that I've seen are red and blue on white painted frames. It's lugged Reynolds 753 rather than 531c and has an Ilkeston SBDU serial number so it was made in the UK.

My bike probably had red main tubes, black forks and stays with white Raleigh USA decals. The fork on mine is still black with white Raleigh decals on the front of the blades.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/2826722...7623921286599/

I've been doing a lot of research on the bike and here's what I came up with so far.

In 1987 Raleigh UK merged their SBDU, Special Bicycle Development Unit at Ilkeston where the Team bikes were made, into the Lightweight Division at Nottingham. They offered a very wide assortment of "off the rack" frames in around 17 variations for road, track, cyclocross and time trial in a slew of paint colors and combination plus optional chrome plating. These were made by Raleigh's Lightweight Division.

The models were classified Services des Course Road, Road Champion, Cross Champion, Serves des Course Track plus low profile versions of the road and track bikes. Lugs, seat stay attachment methods and other cosmetics such as chrome plating appear to be the differences in the model variations. It's not clear whether these frame were offered in 753 as well as 531c and 531p tubing.

Raleigh continued to offer custom built frames made by the former SBDU people from Ilkeston in Reynolds 531c. 531p and 753 tubing. These bikes may have had a sight edge in quality and many of them probably still used serial numbers starting in SBxxxx.

What I don't know about is the connection between Raleigh USA and Raleigh UK at that time and exactly how these frames ended up in the US. My bike was supposedly made in the UK for Raleigh USA and at some point used as a team bike in the US. The trail leads to the Portland, Oregon area.

One other thing, it appears that some of these frames were built up with Suntour Supreme Pro gruppos. Mine has a partial Superbe Pro gruppo filled out with Suntour Cyclone and Sprint components. I have all the parts to restore it to a full Superbe Pro gruppo.

This is an exceptionally fine riding bike.

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I have a 531 painted the same and will check the serial number.
It looks like Penseyres' 1986 Race Across America bike but I think his was not steel.
Sorry about the picture size. It was the largest I could find. Click on it for a little larger one.

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