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Bearonabike 01-31-10 04:54 PM

Date this Raleigh Sprite
 
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I had another thread about whether or not I should keep or part out this bike. At the time, I thought it was a 1976 but now I'm pretty sure it's older, maybe late 1960s but I can't be positive.

I found a serial number, it appears to be 995633 on the lug just in front of the Brooks mattress seat. The location of the serial number and the format place it between 1961 and 1972. I thought originally that it was a 1970 based on paint scheme but have learned that Raleigh used the same scheme many years in a row. The 1976 bike pictured at http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/sprite.html has the 5 speed freewheel and stem shifter but the front fork is all wrong. The fork has the features of the 1970 Raleigh Sport as detailed in the catalog at http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/sports.html.

There is not a chain guard and it appears that there never was one on the bike. In addition, the stem shifter is configured for a RD only and the paint shows no indications of anFD ever being installed. Still, the frame has provision for an FD cable (see BB photo.)

Here are some pictures:

EjustE 01-31-10 05:27 PM

The location of and the serial number itself make it a 1970 bike.

Bianchigirll 01-31-10 05:32 PM

clean it up and donate it to someone who can use it

Bearonabike 01-31-10 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by EjustE (Post 10343966)
The location of and the serial number itself make it a 1970 bike.

According to http://www.jaysmarine.com/TH_raleigh_serials.html, this location was used from the mid 1960 to 1972.

David Newton 01-31-10 05:49 PM

Sprites have always been 5 speed RD only, right? There were some early Sprites that were 26 x 1 3/8" wheel. That is the one that is a grail for me.

EjustE 01-31-10 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bearonabike (Post 10344018)
According to http://www.jaysmarine.com/TH_raleigh_serials.html, this location was used from the mid 1960 to 1972.

Correct. And if you read further, you can see this (with credit given to the BF member who runs that site) :

Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10344018)
The first of these two systems (noted below as "System 196X") started in the early 1960's - no earlier then 1961 - and ultimately rolled over to 7 digits sometime in 1970.

so your 995633 is a 6 digit 1970 serial number

Bearonabike 01-31-10 05:56 PM

No, some were 10 speeds and I think some may have had 5 hubs as well.

Bearonabike 01-31-10 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by EjustE (Post 10344038)
Correct. And if you read further, you can see this (with credit given to the BF member who runs that site) :


so your 995633 is a 6 digit 1970 serial number

I doubt that it will matters much if seeking replacement parts, but why rule out a 1969 production date?

OOPS! See it now, the 1970 cutoff date...

sykerocker 01-31-10 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by David Newton (Post 10344035)
Sprites have always been 5 speed RD only, right? There were some early Sprites that were 26 x 1 3/8" wheel. That is the one that is a grail for me.

Nope, there were 10's. I had a coffee colored one back in '71, my first Raleigh, also my first serious commuter.

wahoonc 01-31-10 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by David Newton (Post 10344035)
Sprites have always been 5 speed RD only, right? There were some early Sprites that were 26 x 1 3/8" wheel. That is the one that is a grail for me.

Nope!

Aaron:)

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/84...500x500Q85.jpg

Chris_in_Miami 02-01-10 07:51 AM

And another 10 speed Sprite:

http://www.boomspeed.com/artoflaw/in.../sprite_01.jpg

nlerner 02-01-10 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by EjustE (Post 10343966)
The location of and the serial number itself make it a 1970 bike.

Well, if you look at the 1970 catalog page for the Sprite, you'll see that it wasn't yet the "Sprite 27" and only came in "Coffee." My '71 catalog only lists the top road bikes, I don't have the '72 catalog, and by '73 the Sprite was called the "Sprite 27" but the fork didn't have the thimble in the fork crown any longer. So I'd guess it's a '71 or a '72.

Neal

Bearonabike 02-01-10 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 10346110)
Well, if you look at the 1970 catalog page for the Sprite, you'll see that it wasn't yet the "Sprite 27" and only came in "Coffee." My '71 catalog only lists the top road bikes, I don't have the '72 catalog, and by '73 the Sprite was called the "Sprite 27" but the fork didn't have the thimble in the fork crown any longer. So I'd guess it's a '71 or a '72.

Neal

Does the '73 catalog match the fork design?

dedhed 02-01-10 05:48 PM

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my 1968 Sprite has a SA, S-5 IGH rear hub, 11/67 dated. Serial # on BB, and 26X 1 3/8 wheels.
It's all original, bought from the original owner. Nottingham built, bronze green

nlerner 02-01-10 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Bearonabike (Post 10348209)
Does the '73 catalog match the fork design?

Nope, the fork doesn't have the thimble fork crown by 1973.

Neal

bbattle 02-01-10 06:20 PM

My 70's Sprite 27 Sold to me as a 60's model but it's plainly early 70's. Note the cable clips instead of braze-ons, 10-speed drivetrain, stem shifters, cheap brakes, cheesy derailleurs, steel rims. Yeah, I converted it to fixed gear. And I'd do it again, too. ;) (all parts were donated to a good Samaritan who builds old bikes for poor people)

http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/10008...11912783390001

http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/10008...11912782210001

http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/10008...11912781980001

LINK

sykerocker 02-01-10 06:23 PM

OK guys, this brings up an old memory question (I think I mentioned it once a couple of years ago): The Raleigh catalog pictures of the Sprite 27, cannot remember which year but it's got to be somewhere between '70 and '74, had an incredibly gorgeous model with the bike. Very Bianca Jagger-ish back before any of us had ever heard of her. I know that picture has to exist, as I've still got memories of it, but there are moments when I wonder what reality I was living in as nobody else seems to have ever seen it in a Raleigh catalog. Anyone here ever run across the picture?

sykerocker 02-01-10 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by dedhed (Post 10348586)
my 1968 Sprite has a SA, S-5 IGH rear hub, 11/67 dated. Serial # on BB, and 26X 1 3/8 wheels.
It's all original, bought from the original owner. Nottingham built, bronze green

Boy, I remember that one. The assistant dean of students at my college had one, I did all his maintenance work in the dorm - and he was the reference that got me the job at A.R. Adams Cycle Shop. Never let him know that it was the first time I'd ever seen a SA 5-speed rear hub. He assumed I knew how to work on them.

nlerner 02-01-10 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by sykerocker (Post 10348788)
OK guys, this brings up an old memory question (I think I mentioned it once a couple of years ago): The Raleigh catalog pictures of the Sprite 27, cannot remember which year but it's got to be somewhere between '70 and '74, had an incredibly gorgeous model with the bike. Very Bianca Jagger-ish back before any of us had ever heard of her. I know that picture has to exist, as I've still got memories of it, but there are moments when I wonder what reality I was living in as nobody else seems to have ever seen it in a Raleigh catalog. Anyone here ever run across the picture?

Hah! I remember that earlier thread, and perhaps I'm showing the same catalog pages as last time, but here goes. I'm also not sure it's the Sprite in each of these photos, but the models might jog your memory:

1972 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1972Sprite.jpg

1973 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1973Sprite.jpg

1974 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1974Sprite.jpg

1975 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1975Sprite.jpg

Neal

bikelust2009 10-12-11 07:42 PM

Can anyone explain how I came across and most recently bought a 12 speed Sprite? I cannot find any info on 12 speed Sprite's. Serial number begins with RN4= R for Canada, N for Oct, and 4 for is either 1974 or 1984. The bike is well-preserved....any info is much appreciated.

wahoonc 10-13-11 07:26 AM

Six speed rear clusters were out in the 1980's.

Aaron :)

sykerocker 10-13-11 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 10348933)
Hah! I remember that earlier thread, and perhaps I'm showing the same catalog pages as last time, but here goes. I'm also not sure it's the Sprite in each of these photos, but the models might jog your memory:

1972 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1972Sprite.jpg

1973 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1973Sprite.jpg

1974 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1974Sprite.jpg

1975 Raleigh catalog:
http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bikes/1975Sprite.jpg

Neal

Afraid not - I remember the first two, possibly the third pic. The one I'm thinking of is very dark, not shot outdoors, and the way the lady is dressed I can't believe she'd actually ride a bike enough to get sweaty in that outfit.

wahoonc 10-13-11 03:51 PM

Now I am scared...I had a Mercury Capri like the one in the last picture...mine was highly modified, but still scary.

Aaron :)

sykerocker 10-13-11 07:11 PM

Looking at those pictures a second time, I'm seriously wondering if it was a '71 or '72 catalog . . . . . . . because . . . . . . . . . all the bikes pictures (forget the '72's, I'm pretty certain they're Records) have swept back bars. One of the real stylistic things about the Sprite 10 I'm thinking about (and owned, at one time) was that it had short, straight, nearly flat bars not unlike those on the white and orange '72 Record pictured. And all Sprite 10's back then had the flat bars. Made them somewhat unique in the Raleigh line at the time.

sykerocker 10-13-11 07:26 PM

Found it! 1972 catalog. Slightly different than I thought, then again, we're talking a 40 year memory, so some of the details will certainly change with time. Of course, the URL is an .html file, so I'll be damned if I can figure out how to post the picture here:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/TH_raleigh_cat_72.html

Kurt, your references come thru once again.


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