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Old 02-14-10, 11:36 PM   #1
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I think that my Peugeot might be French!

Not just made there for the US market but FROM France! First, the wheels are 700c not 27 inches. I'm by no means an expert but would not fitting of 700c wheels on a 27 inch wheel frame require the reworking of the brake mounts or replacing the brakes themselves? Furthermore, there is a sticker on the bike that says "P.Rolland, 74 Rue Carnot" and when I google that I get an address in Marsailles France and Marsalles is the OTHER WORD ON THAT STICKER!! I don't know if P. Rolland is a bike shop or what but it seems to be a bike shop sticker to me! Now, how in the world a bicycle from France wound up abandoned on the streets of Lowell Mass is beyond me......
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Switching a bike from 700c to 27 inch wheels is not hard and usually does not require a change of anything except the position of the brake pads.

Low to middle end exports had 27 inch wheels while the top racing machines were 700c and if you have a 1957 PLX8 you would know that these wheels are also 700c and was probably a personal import and not a dealer model.
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No surprises, my latest peug has a shop sticker from london. Many americans may have gotten a frenchbbike while in france and brought it home. Its far less likely with the boom bikes but higher end models (like a PR-10) may be easier to bring back and depending on the exchange, may have been lucrative.
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In recent years I have sent hundreds of bicycles all over the planet. Most of the bikes I have found came from Europe. If you think where you live is remote, consider my location in Northwestern Ontario, Canada. I live in a remote city of 120,000 people. And I have found Vitus, Colnago, Bianchi, Peugeot, Olmo, Carlton, Raleigh, Super Mondia, Tommasini, and a host of other not too common vintage road bicycles. The point I am making is that it is not uncommon at all for a European road bicycle to surface in North America. However, a pre-Bike Boom model is a bit unusual on this side of the Pond.
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Does your Peugeot have a mustache, and smell of cheese and wine?
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YES!!!!! Wow! it IS true!

Actually, Randy, I had assumed that Canada was where the bike came from all along, Quebec to be specific. I never bothered to Google it. WHat would be perfect is if some one FROM France knew of P. Rolland's shop! And Thunder Bay isn't that remote. My father was there many times at the old Cancar plant when they sold a bunch of trains to the MBTA twenty years ago.
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Euro models, while not plentiful, are not uncommon. Even lower end models pop up. Remember that US and Canadian forces have been stationed in Europe since 1945 and bicycles at the post/base exchanges were often locally sourced not to mention higher end bikes at local bike shops. My wife's Peugeot PH18 mixte is one such French Peugeot. We bought it from a women who purchased it while in the US Air Force stationed in Europe in the 80's. Of course a French bike with an actual shop sticker is a little different since there haven't been many forces there since the 60's but there's still students, tourists, etc. I went to a bike swap meet in Boulder, CO a few years ago and an older couple rode up on a pair of very clean his and hers Peugeots that they had purchased while living in Paris in the mid-70's.
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My wife's Japanese road bike is from Japan. I bought it from a resale bike shop and they told me that the guy they bought it from brought it over from Japan. It also has a sticker with his name on it, it might also have his address on it, but I can't read anything other than his name which is hand written in English.
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I can only guess that because of her age and lack of any trace of shop stickers that she was brought here privately sometimes after her birth in 1957.

At this time British bikes were being fitted with 27 inch wheels and do not know when Peugeot started fitting 27's to export models although most boom bikes have them.

The wheels are 700c chromed Rigida's.

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Sixty Fiver...they sold 27's in Europe to.

I dont understand this thread.
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Sixty Fiver...they sold 27's in Europe to.

I don't understand this thread.
I am sure they did but the 700c wheel size was widely used in Europe (continental) when the British moved to using 27 inch wheels in the 50's.

It is like finding a British bike with right hand front brakes here... it is a sign that the bike may have been a private import rather than a locally sold bicycle or had an owner that was preferential to this set up.

Raleigh tourists that were sold here through bicycle shops have a left hand front brake to conform with North American preferences and standards while UK models are reversed.

We would have to find someone who can give some firsthand information as to how French made Peugeots were fitted out during the bike boom but a bike with French shop stickers and 700c wheels provides a little information.

mr grumpy should give us a model ID as that would also help... if it was a model that came with 27 inch wheels here and 700c's there then we know a little more.

The fellow who bought my Raleigh Lenton in 1955 was ex military and believe he brought the bike back from England and used it with it's right hand front brake set up as it would not have been sold like that here.
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Sixty Fiver...they sold 27's in Europe to.

I dont understand this thread.
My bike has a French Shop sticker on it indicating that it was not only made in France but also lived out a portion of it's life in France. To me, that's cool. According to the Retro Peugeot web site the PRN10e came with 27 inch wheels in 1977 while the French Market bikes had 700c wheels!
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Heres a Peugot with a mustache. It was purchased new in Calgary, 1969 or 70 and is clearly marked made in France. I dont know what year they started manufacturing them in Canada but assume it was after this. The odometer shows over 20000 miles.
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whats a 27inch wheel?

It nice to see a photo of the shops sticker if thats possible
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You can kind of get the idea from this one but I'll have to take a better shot when I get home tomorrow.
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Huh?
The bike? Close as I can figure it's a '77 or '78.
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The bike? Close as I can figure it's a '77 or '78.
Not with pearl white paint and an orange Peugeot decal on the seat tube. Whats the serial number?
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I don't know what year they started manufacturing them in Canada but assume it was after this. The odometer shows over 20000 miles.
Procycle started making Pugs in Canada in 1978 and acquired the distribution rights in 1974... they dropped Peugeot as a brand in 2001.
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Kent - The decals on your bike point to it being a 74-76 and is what appears to be the ubiquitous UO8.
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Not with pearl white paint and an orange Peugeot decal on the seat tube. Whats the serial number?
I guess that the pictures is crummier than I thought. The bike is Silver and the sticker is red.
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The bike is pearl white and the serial number is 226 with a space and then a large square about twice the size of the numbers followed by another space and the numbers 154 so I am thinking this is a 6 digit #, 226154.

From the information on google this would more then likely make it a 60s bike but Im not sure. According to Google there was quite a bit of variables involved. The serial # if that is what it is is on a small plate that appears to be aluminum riveted to the bottom of the crank housing. The numbers are quite small but it is the only # on the bike that I could find.

Again it was purchased new in 69 or 70. It was the only bike I had at the time so I am quite sure of this. I got married in june 71 and I had the bike then so the very newest it could be would be a 71. .
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I just sold a Chicago made Schwinn that originally was purchased at Rudys Bike Shop in Chicago. The guy that bought it lives in Chicago. The way I figure it the bike hasnt been more than a reasonable riding distance from the Schwinn factory where it was originally built. How bout them apples.
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and have a lot of armpit hair?
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