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02-21-10, 12:53 AM
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Campagnolo experts?
I picked up a Peugeot today that came with an almost complete Campagnolo Super Record groupo. Is this better than the Nuovo Revord? I will try to post pics tomorrow. My batteries went out on my digi cam and are charging at the moment. The bike is a PSN10 Super Vitus 980 frame from the later half of the 80's. From what I can tell the original owner put the campy on after he bought the bike. Thanks for any help, I really don't have much experience with campy equipment but from the pics I have googled for this stuff looks like super record.
02-21-10, 01:03 AM
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As I remember, Super Record is a step above the Nuovo Record. It was a little lighter and some components may of had titanium pieces, but the functionality is the same. I like the NR rear derailluer more than the SR RD, I think that I just looks better. I like the looks of the SR cranks, less clunky looking. I don't think that one rides any better than the other.
And I am not a campy expert. But I do have bike with each gruppo.
And I am not a campy expert. But I do have bike with each gruppo.
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SR RD is designed to minimize NR's excessive chain gap; that is SR's main mechanical benefit. All other differences are pretty much cosmetic.
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I think SRs have titanium pivots while NRs have steel, so there whould be some weight savings with the SR.
BTW, I thought that none of the Supervitus framed Peugeots ever came with Campy SR gruppos. Sounds like your PSN might have been modded up with the SR gruppo at one time.
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BTW, I thought that none of the Supervitus framed Peugeots ever came with Campy SR gruppos. Sounds like your PSN might have been modded up with the SR gruppo at one time.
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First-gen SR has nothing vastly superior over NR, other then those TI bits and the finish. Second-gen, as I mentioned before, received a slightly revised top pivot that allowed one to minimize chain gap:
Gran Sport in blue, Nuovo in yellow, Super 2nd gen in red. This drawing assumes a Campagnolo 1010 dropout. Not to scale.
I blathered some about this topic here: https://theparallelogram.blogspot.com/ . I don't recall how detailed the information is there; did that blog for a university class.
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Gran Sport in blue, Nuovo in yellow, Super 2nd gen in red. This drawing assumes a Campagnolo 1010 dropout. Not to scale.
I blathered some about this topic here: https://theparallelogram.blogspot.com/ . I don't recall how detailed the information is there; did that blog for a university class.
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That sounds like an incredible Peugeot! I can wait for the pics. Enjoy your Super Record. I know as far as the derailleurs, I feel like my SRs are caffeinated turbos comparatively. Actually had to learn to be a little more precise on the levers because of the better response.
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Ok here are some pics... Hope they are good enough.
Here is the frame
Here are the campagnolo pieces
Up close FD
Up close RD front
Back of the RD
Brakes
Shifters
Not really sure about the shifters. They had no markings but I thought I would include them. Thanks for any help.
Here is the frame
Here are the campagnolo pieces
Up close FD
Up close RD front
Back of the RD
Brakes
Shifters
Not really sure about the shifters. They had no markings but I thought I would include them. Thanks for any help.
02-21-10, 11:04 AM
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The shifters are Simplex RetroFriction shifters which were and are regarded by many as the finest friction shifters ever made. It looks like the previous owner out-fitted the bike with the best at the time. As for the SR stuff, regardless of how it performs it usually brings a better price than NR so if you're selling off the components you will do well. If you're looking to keep it original a lot of racers of the period swapped over to RetroFriction shifters so keeping them wouldn't mar the originality of the bike.
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Shifters are Simplex Retrofrictions.
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Thanks for the help! Im gonna keep the SR stuff for something special along with the shifters. A good friend of mine is interested in the frame and that is why I stripped the bike down. The seatpost says Ajax 26.4. Also not pictured is the Sella San Marco white saddle, Normandy Competition hubs, Rigida Score rims, Stonglight 52/42 crank set, Phillipe bars, and Atax stem. I got it all for 100$.
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shifters are the nicest friction made. If you are going to go friction you can't do much better than retrofriction.
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I have a pair of the same shifters that were from a PX-10, mine are labeled Spidel.
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Hey Voyageur_guy, I get all of my bikes off craigslist. Every good bike I have gotten I responded to the ad within 10-15 minutes of it posting. I'm not perfect at it but I am getting better. In my area in the 80's there were a lot of Peugeot and Trek dealers around. These are the two brands I try and familiarize myself with. Being able to look at a pic and immediately know the bike is a deal is key. I've been burnt a couple times (100$ Raleigh piece of junk with everything frozen and a fake Brooks saddle) and have passed on some outrageous deals due to ignorance (100$ Paramount last year).
