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Old 10-15-21, 08:53 PM
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Is it better in first gear?
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Hmmm…didn’t try that. Is that a thing? This is new territory for me.
The problem with the TCW brake is that it was actuated through the internal gearing; IOW, in 3rd (high) gear, the mechanical advantage of the brake was decreased (when you likely would need increased mechanical advantage). In 1st gear (low) the mechanical advantage was increased, so if you took care to shift into low gear when you apply the coaster brake, you would not have problems.
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Old 10-15-21, 09:54 PM
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The problem with the TCW brake is that it was actuated through the internal gearing; IOW, in 3rd (high) gear, the mechanical advantage of the brake was decreased (when you likely would need increased mechanical advantage). In 1st gear (low) the mechanical advantage was increased, so if you took care to shift into low gear when you apply the coaster brake, you would not have problems.
Ahh yes, this is giving me flashbacks to English cars. Somethings - like SU carbs - are brilliant and other things, not so much. Opening a water valve in the engine compartment so you have heat in your car?

I’ll try the downshifting/braking thing and post an update. Thanks for the help JohnDThompson
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Old 10-16-21, 08:11 AM
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Looking at the S# today I saw a faint M so Malaysia would be my answer. I’ve had one other Raleigh from that part of the world.

Tear down was limited to cleaning the frame, lubing the HS and wheels. Unfortunately it looks like the PO put grease in the hub. Might be why the shift change is so-so. The HS was a crisis moment when the 3 indent lock ring refused to come off. The cheap reflected bracket had messed with the threads. Trying to get the lock ring off only made it worse! Out came the Dremel tool. Saved the day but have empty space to fill. The front wheel did not have the set cone only on one side so was easy to clean and put together. Typical, one side had grease the other was burned.

The flamboyant red colour really shows when in the sun. My black Carradice bags will be perfect for this machine. I also have just gotten a nice Sella Italia city saddle from a BF member so it will start for me on this bike.

Pics when I make the bike roadworthy!
I'd be interested in your opinion on the build quality vs a British counterpart.
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Old 10-16-21, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
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The problem with the TCW brake is that it was actuated through the internal gearing; IOW, in 3rd (high) gear, the mechanical advantage of the brake was decreased (when you likely would need increased mechanical advantage). In 1st gear (low) the mechanical advantage was increased, so if you took care to shift into low gear when you apply the coaster brake, you would not have problems.
Correct except that you only need to shift down to second to get the mechanical advantage. Shifting to first makes no difference over second.
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Old 10-16-21, 04:09 PM
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I'd be interested in your opinion on the build quality vs a British counterpart.
Tried 3 times to answer in length, thrown off the site. Second tier parts with good frame, HA!
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Old 10-16-21, 07:39 PM
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Been thinking about mud flaps lately. Went with a friend to Lowe’s and while in the plumbing section ran across these 6”X6” rubber squares. A dollar or two, 1.5mm or 3mm thick. Thought I would experiment.

made a pattern and cut on out. Looks like it would be a good item to use to keep the rain and mud off our machines. I plan on having an old headbadge riveted to some for my projects.

Let you know how it goes!



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Old 10-16-21, 07:45 PM
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$90 for a 23" Sports in YELLOW!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...41748206885767

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What were they thinking...?
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What were they thinking...?
What, the color? I'd love to have that thing. Motobecane also made a 27" wheeled Nobly 3-speed (Sturmey) in yellow.
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Old 10-17-21, 09:36 AM
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Same colour as the 70’s Sprite 27’s, just a lot brighter! How could the cars miss that?
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Finished the 79 “Roadster”.


Started out as this

Nice ride around and a great fit

Like the black Sella Italia saddle and Carradice bag on it

Still some adjusting to take care of
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Old 10-17-21, 05:45 PM
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Damn, I wish that was closer. I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. Never saw one in yellow, I thought the ivory ones were rare enough.
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Old 10-17-21, 05:51 PM
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Got in a good test ride today and I have to say it has potential. Usual things like brake, saddle and shift cable adjustments to make. I will say that the original Chen XXXX tires ruin the ride feel. Skinny and hard make for a jarring trip. The hub is shifting sluggish due to the grease diet it seemed to be on. Quite a few aluminium parts were put in use for the build.

If it stays I will replace the rims and handle bars with alloy as well. All the fender and chainguard bolts were replaced with SS ones and lock nuts for rattle free rides. The rear stays were also bent back into their proper shape. The coffin reflected was switched for a SA Lucas unit. Tin shiftplate took the place of the missing one. It was fun to work on!
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Old 10-17-21, 10:12 PM
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I had one just like it back in the late 70's.
I had a newpaper route at the time and they required the bike to bright yellow, most kids just took a spray can to what ever bike they had. I went looking for a cheap bike, and found the yellow Raleigh Sports. It even had two huge saddle baskets and a double stacked newsboy size front basket set up. The guy who had it before me had moved from the city and had been using it to deliver packages and groceries with for two years. I think I gave $20 for it back then.
The guy had two super heavy duty tires, both with thorn resistant tubes and he had glued in leather strips inside the tires as well. He had both wheels respoked with 12ga spokes too. I used it for at least two years, mostly as my winter bike. I parked it when one of the rear seat stays cracked near the dropout It didn't fail completely but I had been noticing rust bleeding down the yellower paint from what looked like a scratch in the tube, then one day that scratch had a piece of cloth stuck in it, it had apparently been opening up while stopping with all the weight on the bike, and had pinched a piece of the outer casing of a bungee cord I had tied to it there that held the pepers forward in the rear baskets as I rode.
I brazed the crack up but never trusted it after that with all the weight of delivering papers. I delivered about 250 papers,and on coupon days, the thin paper swelled to 1' thick pile of ads and coupons meaning the bike was loaded to the max.
The only failure the bike ever had was the cracked frame, and somewhere along the line, I changed out the saddle when the old one split in the middle. .
On snowy days that bike would be covered in inches of ice and snow after a several hour delivery route in the snow or freezing rain.
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Had some time today so rode the new Raleigh through the large housing area I live in. Having shifting issues with 3rd gear fine, 2nd disconnecting and 1st feeling like 2nd. Grease will have to be flushed.


Neighborhood is Northwoods and Tweed is my favorite street!
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Had some time today so rode the new Raleigh through the large housing area I live in. Having shifting issues with 3rd gear fine, 2nd disconnecting and 1st feeling like 2nd. Grease will have to be flushed.


Neighborhood is Northwoods and Tweed is my favorite street!
If you can get a pulley for the shift cable and mount it on the seat tube, the cable will be more free (better shifting). It will also not require as much adjustment if you move the wheel to compensate for the chain wearing.
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
Had some time today so rode the new Raleigh through the large housing area I live in. Having shifting issues with 3rd gear fine, 2nd disconnecting and 1st feeling like 2nd. Grease will have to be flushed.


Neighborhood is Northwoods and Tweed is my favorite street!
Looks beautiful. I too hate grease in an aw hub. I flush with wd40 usually.
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If you can get a pulley for the shift cable and mount it on the seat tube, the cable will be more free (better shifting). It will also not require as much adjustment if you move the wheel to compensate for the chain wearing.
This does have a full SA set up including the pulley. It’s just mounted at the base of the seat tube. Thought about moving it up but want to solve the grease sludge in the hub first.

Thanks for suggestive thoughts! I agree with it on shifting benefits!
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Pic first:


First part of the project complete!
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Next part will be the holes drilled into the front guard then marked, flap punched. Mounting will use rivets as well. The red 79 “Roadster” will be the wearer.
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