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Slightly O.T.
Several rears ago I went to buy a Hercules (AMF) from a guy for $75.00
He also had one of these for sale for $8000 which I thought was a lot....

1966/67 Honda 450 the Black Bomber
This bike was listed today for $20,000.00!!
I've always wanted one but not a this price.....
Several rears ago I went to buy a Hercules (AMF) from a guy for $75.00
He also had one of these for sale for $8000 which I thought was a lot....

1966/67 Honda 450 the Black Bomber
This bike was listed today for $20,000.00!!
I've always wanted one but not a this price.....
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Slightly O.T.
Several rears ago I went to buy a Hercules (AMF) from a guy for $75.00
He also had one of these for sale for $8000 which I thought was a lot....

1966/67 Honda 450 the Black Bomber
This bike was listed today for $20,000.00!!
I've always wanted one but not a this price.....
Several rears ago I went to buy a Hercules (AMF) from a guy for $75.00
He also had one of these for sale for $8000 which I thought was a lot....

1966/67 Honda 450 the Black Bomber
This bike was listed today for $20,000.00!!
I've always wanted one but not a this price.....

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A Robert Pirsig fan with too much money will buy that.
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@gster, Ah, you're right. But still in the same wheelhouse.
And you're right again, the discussion of Quality never gets tired in C&V.
And you're right again, the discussion of Quality never gets tired in C&V.
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Even if I can’t make it work with this plan, I can always have one of my LBS rethread the BB to fit a modern BB. Prefer not to modify the frame, but it’s not end of the world.
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@gster, Ah, you're right. But still in the same wheelhouse.
And you're right, the discussion of Quality never gets tired in C&V.
And you're right, the discussion of Quality never gets tired in C&V.
As far as Quality, these days I’m a Safety consultant, so … maybe a few nuggets of insight dropped off the tree!
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1966 Honda 305 Super Hawk
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1966 Honda 305 Super Hawk
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Somebody made a fairly optimistic claim that it had a top speed of 104?
I dunno, I suppose maybe?
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Count me as another die hard Pirsig fan - I even read Lila.....
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The Honda Black Bomber had a fragile valve problem. Generally if they are still running after 2000 miles they have a chance to keep going. For a while. Seems to me there's a fix for it IIRC that was handed down in the last 30 years or so. The 305 Super Hawk was indeed capable of 105 mph if you laid down on the tank- the engine could rev nearly 10,000 rpm and didn't have the reliability issue of its bigger brother.
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The Honda Black Bomber had a fragile valve problem. Generally if they are still running after 2000 miles they have a chance to keep going. For a while. Seems to me there's a fix for it IIRC that was handed down in the last 30 years or so. The 305 Super Hawk was indeed capable of 105 mph if you laid down on the tank- the engine could rev nearly 10,000 rpm and didn't have the reliability issue of its bigger brother.
an illustration of a guy lying flat on the tank (superman style)
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"Old beach cruiser." No price listed beyond the $1 in the title so get out to Long Island and grab it.
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I've known intellectually that flat repair on rod brake bikes was more difficult. The value stem came off when pumping up the rear tire on the newish (to me) Roadster. I now know on a very real level that it is actually a total freaking PITA. It doesn't help a bit when the threads on one of the brake pads strips and will need to be cut off when I find a replacement. .So, where is the best place to get a pair of side post brake pads? My amazon searches have been fruitless.
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I've known intellectually that flat repair on rod brake bikes was more difficult. The value stem came off when pumping up the rear tire on the newish (to me) Roadster. I now know on a very real level that it is actually a total freaking PITA. It doesn't help a bit when the threads on one of the brake pads strips and will need to be cut off when I find a replacement. .So, where is the best place to get a pair of side post brake pads? My amazon searches have been fruitless.
The brake pads are mounted to the brake stirrup. Instead of removing the pads, if things are set up right you squeeze the stirrup a bit and drop it away, then it can be seperated a bit to allow the wheel to come free. At least on my 1940 Royal Enfield that's how it works.
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I've known intellectually that flat repair on rod brake bikes was more difficult. The value stem came off when pumping up the rear tire on the newish (to me) Roadster. I now know on a very real level that it is actually a total freaking PITA. It doesn't help a bit when the threads on one of the brake pads strips and will need to be cut off when I find a replacement. .So, where is the best place to get a pair of side post brake pads? My amazon searches have been fruitless.
I know that doesn't really help
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1970 Raleigh Twenty folding bicycle. Bought it at a car swap meet last August for $35, and it was in rough shape.

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I have hit critical mass on 3 Spds.
So, I need to start riding them. Still can't post pics. This my Bike Forum eighth post (Two more, and I can post pics.).
This forum is probably not the best for what I want? I would like to set up local rides for 3 spd IGH bikes? Most rides would be short, of a social (no Raleigh Sports hammer fests) nature, and mechanically survivable. Performance riding, not a goal.
Took my recently overhauled, for functionality, 1973 Raleigh Sport, for a 12 mile ride last Saturday. Flat front tire, and 50 year old handle bar stem bolt broke to add to the adventure. I had a tube, 15mm cone wrench, 14mm open wrench, and did need tire levers to get the new E.R.T.O. 590 tire off the steel rim. Have to love the lack of axle locknuts and the smooth cone. Did 8 miles holding the real steel handlebars at the stem, and front brake lever. Even braved a successful standing low gear climb before the handlebars decided to free themselves.
My local area is Baltimore-Annapolis, MD. Would like to ride the local trails, mostly the BWI loop as a 3 spd IGH test track. I know from the local shop I frequent, there are many vintage 3 spds about. Months ago ran into a woman with her husband on the the B&A proudly piloting her vintage 3 spd. I was allowed to inspect the Herons for eyes. They did not have them. My crankset Herons on the 73 Sport does not have them, but the OEM lantern bracket on the the stem does.
This forum is probably not the best for what I want? I would like to set up local rides for 3 spd IGH bikes? Most rides would be short, of a social (no Raleigh Sports hammer fests) nature, and mechanically survivable. Performance riding, not a goal.
Took my recently overhauled, for functionality, 1973 Raleigh Sport, for a 12 mile ride last Saturday. Flat front tire, and 50 year old handle bar stem bolt broke to add to the adventure. I had a tube, 15mm cone wrench, 14mm open wrench, and did need tire levers to get the new E.R.T.O. 590 tire off the steel rim. Have to love the lack of axle locknuts and the smooth cone. Did 8 miles holding the real steel handlebars at the stem, and front brake lever. Even braved a successful standing low gear climb before the handlebars decided to free themselves.
My local area is Baltimore-Annapolis, MD. Would like to ride the local trails, mostly the BWI loop as a 3 spd IGH test track. I know from the local shop I frequent, there are many vintage 3 spds about. Months ago ran into a woman with her husband on the the B&A proudly piloting her vintage 3 spd. I was allowed to inspect the Herons for eyes. They did not have them. My crankset Herons on the 73 Sport does not have them, but the OEM lantern bracket on the the stem does.
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So, I need to start riding them. Still can't post pics. This my Bike Forum eighth post (Two more, and I can post pics.).
Took my recently overhauled, for functionality, 1973 Raleigh Sport, for a 12 mile ride last Saturday. Flat front tire, and 50 year old handle bar stem bolt broke to add to the adventure. I had a tube, 15mm cone wrench, 14mm open wrench, and did need tire levers to get the new E.R.T.O. 590 tire off the steel rim. Have to love the lack of axle locknuts and the smooth cone. Did 8 miles holding the real steel handlebars at the stem, and front brake lever. Even braved a successful standing low gear climb before the handlebars decided to free themselves.
My local area is Baltimore-Annapolis, MD. Would like to ride the local trails, mostly the BWI loop as a 3 spd IGH test track. I know from the local shop I frequent, there are many vintage 3 spds about. Months ago ran into a woman with her husband on the the B&A proudly piloting her vintage 3 spd. I was allowed to inspect the Herons for eyes. They did not have them. My crankset Herons on the 73 Sport does not have them, but the OEM lantern bracket on the the stem does.
Took my recently overhauled, for functionality, 1973 Raleigh Sport, for a 12 mile ride last Saturday. Flat front tire, and 50 year old handle bar stem bolt broke to add to the adventure. I had a tube, 15mm cone wrench, 14mm open wrench, and did need tire levers to get the new E.R.T.O. 590 tire off the steel rim. Have to love the lack of axle locknuts and the smooth cone. Did 8 miles holding the real steel handlebars at the stem, and front brake lever. Even braved a successful standing low gear climb before the handlebars decided to free themselves.
My local area is Baltimore-Annapolis, MD. Would like to ride the local trails, mostly the BWI loop as a 3 spd IGH test track. I know from the local shop I frequent, there are many vintage 3 spds about. Months ago ran into a woman with her husband on the the B&A proudly piloting her vintage 3 spd. I was allowed to inspect the Herons for eyes. They did not have them. My crankset Herons on the 73 Sport does not have them, but the OEM lantern bracket on the the stem does.
The cranks seemed to have lost their eyes sometime in the 1960s. They were certainly gone by 1972. Similarly, the lines on the SA AW hub were introduced in 1972 as well. If you want a metal shifter cable stop or pulley as a nice reliability upgrade for your bike, contact jon@gentlemancyclist.com Raleigh went to plastic parts for these sometime in the 1960s.
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Locknuts? Most of mine have wrench flats on the left (non-drive side) cone. Tighten the right one as far as it will go; there's a stop on the axle. Adjust the cone in the fork--the tension of the fork blades and the axle nuts keeps the cones in place.
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