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Old 09-02-22, 05:25 PM
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$30 ladies' Sports in OH includes a less desirable bike.

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Old 09-02-22, 09:23 PM
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$30 ladies' Sports in OH includes a less desirable bike.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...84698325064446

Looks like the saddle is worth the $30.
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I've lost this clamp for mounting my chain guard. Is there anything that might be better/easier to obtain than an original? Thanks!

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I've lost this clamp for mounting my chain guard. Is there anything that might be better/easier to obtain than an original? Thanks!

Not hard to fabricate a replacement, but can PM me and I can look through my 3 spd hardware for the least corroded piece for postage?
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Not hard to fabricate a replacement, but can PM me and I can look through my 3 spd hardware for the least corroded piece for postage?
that would be incredible!
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Originally Posted by raleigh76
I've lost this clamp for mounting my chain guard. Is there anything that might be better/easier to obtain than an original? Thanks!

P clamps in the wiring section, HD, HF, Ace, most auto parts, etc, etc.
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Old 09-03-22, 08:06 PM
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His 'n' hers '51 Savoys for $300 in VA. Check them chainguards!

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...528848665.html

This is when and where a step through really shines IMO, when these were brand new, the shiny women's version with an accent like that chaingaurd has style for miles compared to the mens.
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Could be a S/A 3 Speed.....
There's a shifter...
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Originally Posted by gster
Could be a S/A 3 Speed.....
There's a shifter...
Probably a Cyclo Benelux conversion. There's 3 on-the-tree and 3 on-the-floor!
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I started a 6 speed project in the spring but haven't pursued it.
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Originally Posted by gster
I started a 6 speed project in the spring but haven't pursued it.
My 1958 Sun Cresta had one of those! I could never get the chain to run true on the jockey roller so I modified a Sun Tour one for it.



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Originally Posted by browngw
My 1958 Sun Cresta had one of those! I could never get the chain to run true on the jockey roller so I modified a Sun Tour one for it.



Nice work!
What size chain did you use?
I think that's what hung me up.
The master link was catching
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Originally Posted by gster
Could be a S/A 3 Speed.....
There's a shifter...
Could even be a 4 speed.
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Originally Posted by gster
Nice work!
What size chain did you use?
I think that's what hung me up.
The master link was catching
Why not remove the master and just use a chain breaker to connect two links. At least to verify nothing else rubs the wrong way.
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Originally Posted by markk900
Why not remove the master and just use a chain breaker to connect two links. At least to verify nothing else rubs the wrong way.
A lot of things are rubbing the wrong way these days........
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Originally Posted by gster
Nice work!
What size chain did you use?
I think that's what hung me up.
The master link was catching
I used a 3/32 f5/6 speed chain on the Sun, but recently did up a Raleigh Challenger/Sports using a 1/8 chain on a Suntour derailleur. It worked fine with the SRAM PC1 nickel plate chain. I used the bars, brake levers and chain ring off a scrapped 79 step through Sports. Here is a picture of the Raleigh.


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Hi fellows. I'm thinking of locating a '50s or '60s Sports frame and building a 650b wheelset to make it into a foul weather / rougher roads four-season commuter, either with semi-upright handlebars or drops. I have a '56 AW and '49 GH6 hubs handy - I'd use the GH6 to power a Sturmey lampset off of a '49 Clubman that I have in the parts bin. I think the Sports frame can handle up to 40mmish tires, and the frames/parts bikes are cheap to come by, relatively speaking - so that's the initial outline of the plan.

Thoughts? Musings? Suggestions of alternatives? Condemnations? All welcome.
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Originally Posted by Ged117
Hi fellows. I'm thinking of locating a '50s or '60s Sports frame and building a 650b wheelset to make it into a foul weather / rougher roads four-season commuter, either with semi-upright handlebars or drops. I have a '56 AW and '49 GH6 hubs handy - I'd use the GH6 to power a Sturmey lampset off of a '49 Clubman that I have in the parts bin. I think the Sports frame can handle up to 40mmish tires, and the frames/parts bikes are cheap to come by, relatively speaking - so that's the initial outline of the plan.

Thoughts? Musings? Suggestions of alternatives? Condemnations? All welcome.
Seems like a worthy project. Biggest issue will be finding effective brakes that have the reach you need. Standard steel brakes already have fairly long arms, and you'll need another 3mm of reach. Perhaps do-able with existing brakes?
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Seems like a worthy project. Biggest issue will be finding effective brakes that have the reach you need. Standard steel brakes already have fairly long arms, and you'll need another 3mm of reach. Perhaps do-able with existing brakes?
Re: brakes, I'm hoping the originals with some kool-stop pads will be suitable, though I do have a tektro set handy that would likely provide the needed reach. Neal, you've posted a 650b winter commuter with Soma tires before and I'm taking it as inspiration. I am not quite prepared to modify my Competition for 650 x 42mm quite yet, and I don't want to subject it to our very nasty winters. I've tried 35mm studded tires on an old hybrid during a few winter commutes, and I find that the low temps here render the rubber portion useless, and I end up riding only on the studs, which isn't great heading into corners. I like your solution of wider and yet grippy tires for stability.
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Calling all Late 60's-Early 70's Raleigh Superbe Owners!

Would one of you provide a measurement from the rear eyelet to the brake bolt? I found a rack that has fixed mounting points, and my 21" 1969 Superbe is near where I bought it through my agreeable uncle, who is currently out of state. Yes, this request is odd, but it is still a great help for me. TIA!
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Originally Posted by Ged117
Re: brakes, I'm hoping the originals with some kool-stop pads will be suitable, though I do have a tektro set handy that would likely provide the needed reach. Neal, you've posted a 650b winter commuter with Soma tires before and I'm taking it as inspiration. I am not quite prepared to modify my Competition for 650 x 42mm quite yet, and I don't want to subject it to our very nasty winters. I've tried 35mm studded tires on an old hybrid during a few winter commutes, and I find that the low temps here render the rubber portion useless, and I end up riding only on the studs, which isn't great heading into corners. I like your solution of wider and yet grippy tires for stability.
Makes sense. The 650b winter tires that have worked well for me, particularly in loose snow, are the Soma Cazaderos:

https://www.somafab.com/archives/pro...00c650b-x-42mm
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Calling all Late 60's-Early 70's Raleigh Superbe Owners!

Would one of you provide a measurement from the rear eyelet to the brake bolt? I found a rack that has fixed mounting points, and my 21" 1969 Superbe is near where I bought it through my agreeable uncle, who is currently out of state. Yes, this request is odd, but it is still a great help for me. TIA!
Still looking for a simple measurement. If that's not possible, has anyone fit an Esge rear carrier to a Raleigh 3 speed model?
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
Still looking for a simple measurement. If that's not possible, has anyone fit an Esge rear carrier to a Raleigh 3 speed model?
Yes. Happens all the time!
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...has anyone fit an Esge rear carrier to a Raleigh 3 speed model?
Presto!
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Originally Posted by Ged117
Hi fellows. I'm thinking of locating a '50s or '60s Sports frame and building a 650b wheelset to make it into a foul weather / rougher roads four-season commuter, either with semi-upright handlebars or drops. I have a '56 AW and '49 GH6 hubs handy - I'd use the GH6 to power a Sturmey lampset off of a '49 Clubman that I have in the parts bin. I think the Sports frame can handle up to 40mmish tires, and the frames/parts bikes are cheap to come by, relatively speaking - so that's the initial outline of the plan.

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I have done something similar on my '56 Sports. 650b with 42's (baby shoe pass) will fit. The stock front fender will not fit with this set up with the tektro brakes. With the slick tires at least, velo orange 650b fenders fit with good fender lines. I wish I had bought the 38mm tires as I think the stock front fender would work with those. Stock brakes will not work, reach is the issue in the rear at least. I think the stock brakes would reach in the front. The solution I found was Tektro 950a brakes, they are still available in nutted versions. I use the Kool Stop salmon brake pads, but the brake system is still not quite up to snuff in my opinion. (It stops fast, but not stoppie fast --- if that makes sense) Hope this helps!

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