For the love of English 3 speeds...
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,555
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
276 Posts
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,268
Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super(2)Lemond Maillot Juane (2) & custom,PDG Paramount,Serotta CSI,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Prologue TT,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,Klein Quantum II
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2148 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times
in
1,383 Posts
Rockin' this "old in spirit" english 3 speed this morning for 27 glorious miles.



__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
Steel is real...and comfy.
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Port Dover Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,509
Bikes: 1965 Dilecta Le Blanc, 1956 Royal Nord, 1972 Raleigh Sports, 1972 CCM Turismo,1976 SuperCycle Excalibur, 2014 Salsa Vaya, 2017 Felt DD70, 2019 Giant Lafree and others
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 336 Post(s)
Liked 434 Times
in
192 Posts
My Canadian 1979 DL1 was sold new at Pieriks Cycle in Hamilton Ontario with a full chain case. I was led to believe that we in Canada had two choices, full or none. I had a 1977 that had never had a chaincase mounted. The 79 now belongs to another BF member.

As sold.

As purchased.

As sold.

As purchased.
__________________
We are what we reflect. We are the changes that we bring to this world. Ride often. -Geo.-
We are what we reflect. We are the changes that we bring to this world. Ride often. -Geo.-
Likes For browngw:
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 8,781
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2556 Post(s)
Liked 2,082 Times
in
1,354 Posts
Nifty sign is probably a repop but would be nice for a shop space.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...53074373280720
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...53074373280720

Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 508
Bikes: 1951 Sun Wasp, 1964 Triumph Sports, 1975 Raleigh Competition, 1990 Schwinn Voyageur
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 318 Post(s)
Liked 330 Times
in
147 Posts
New Panaracer 650a tires for my (what I'm calling) '64 Triumph Sports restomod-mod. I call it that because I believe its an early '60s Triumph Sports that had 1970s parts added to it later in life, and now I'm going to add 1950s French parts to the ensemble with a nice flat 'albastache' like handlebar that I found on French ebay and have had in my parts bin. Ooh la la! The wheels polished up pretty nicely. I just need to service the GH6 and do some more work on the S5.
PXL_20220923_160829685.MP

The dropped
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,339
Bikes: Pake C'Mute Touring/Commuter Build, 1989 Kona Cinder Cone, 1995 Trek 5200, 1973 Raleigh Super Course FG, 1960/61 Montgomery Ward Hawthorne "thrift" 3 speed, by Hercules : 1966 Schwinn Deluxe Racer (sold)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1692 Post(s)
Liked 962 Times
in
663 Posts
New Panaracer 650a tires for my (what I'm calling) '64 Triumph Sports restomod-mod. I call it that because I believe its an early '60s Triumph Sports that had 1970s parts added to it later in life, and now I'm going to add 1950s French parts to the ensemble with a nice flat 'albastache' like handlebar that I found on French ebay and have had in my parts bin. Ooh la la! The wheels polished up pretty nicely. I just need to service the GH6 and do some more work on the S5.
PXL_20220923_160829685.MP


Locally I could choose Kenda 803 or K40 in skinwall, or Schwalbe Delta in black. The Col de la Vie tires were the same price with shipping as the Delta Cruiser.
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 508
Bikes: 1951 Sun Wasp, 1964 Triumph Sports, 1975 Raleigh Competition, 1990 Schwinn Voyageur
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 318 Post(s)
Liked 330 Times
in
147 Posts
I've had the Panaracer tires before and they're my favourite, I think as close as we get to a basically nice supple tire close to the expensive 650b offerings. I found these from Soma Fab on sale! Shipping to Canada wasn't so bad, surprisingly.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 8,781
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2556 Post(s)
Liked 2,082 Times
in
1,354 Posts
Newbie
Care to lend me your eyes to judge the size on this frame?

Thinking about a rider who's 5-5ish, wondering if its worth a drive across town.
Take a guess at the year too, if you're so inclined. I promise your estimations aren't legally binding.
Thanks!

Thinking about a rider who's 5-5ish, wondering if its worth a drive across town.
Take a guess at the year too, if you're so inclined. I promise your estimations aren't legally binding.
Thanks!
Likes For d2702:
Phyllo-buster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,632
Bikes: roadsters, club bikes, fixed and classic
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2229 Post(s)
Liked 1,849 Times
in
1,139 Posts
I think the women's frame of that time are about the equivalent of a 19" to 20" frame. I'm guessing it's a 73.
It should fit a 5'5" rider.
It should fit a 5'5" rider.
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,191
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2260 Post(s)
Liked 3,774 Times
in
1,890 Posts
Concur with @clubman - perfect size for 5' 5"-ish. Worth the drive if $70 or less. Throw some Tektro 800A's on it to improve the braking performance and you are done.
-Kurt
Phyllo-buster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,632
Bikes: roadsters, club bikes, fixed and classic
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2229 Post(s)
Liked 1,849 Times
in
1,139 Posts
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,191
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2260 Post(s)
Liked 3,774 Times
in
1,890 Posts
The US Sports went two-tone in 1978 and never looked back until it was retired from our lineup in 1982 (of course, it lived on for a number of years afterwards in the UK, but was soon retooled).


Come to think of it, It was either '81 or '82 when Raleigh changed the downtube transfers to stickers, and this silver one still has transfers. '79-81 is my guess.
Here's my '80 (with a '75-76 chainguard); I'm sure you've seen it before:

-Kurt
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,191
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2260 Post(s)
Liked 3,774 Times
in
1,890 Posts
Anyone in Illionis (Morton Grove) want to go halfsies on this Lemon Yellow Sports? I need the fenders off of it, don't need the rest. Seller won't split it up.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14473415183...8AAOSwFexiiFNN
Wheelset and parts are good, frameset is definitely a customization candidate, as the paint is nicked up beyond belief. I don't feel bad about the prospect of removing the much-nicer-than-the-rest fenders off this frame.

-Kurt
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14473415183...8AAOSwFexiiFNN
Wheelset and parts are good, frameset is definitely a customization candidate, as the paint is nicked up beyond belief. I don't feel bad about the prospect of removing the much-nicer-than-the-rest fenders off this frame.

-Kurt
The dropped
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,339
Bikes: Pake C'Mute Touring/Commuter Build, 1989 Kona Cinder Cone, 1995 Trek 5200, 1973 Raleigh Super Course FG, 1960/61 Montgomery Ward Hawthorne "thrift" 3 speed, by Hercules : 1966 Schwinn Deluxe Racer (sold)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1692 Post(s)
Liked 962 Times
in
663 Posts
Anyone in Illionis (Morton Grove) want to go halfsies on this Lemon Yellow Sports? I need the fenders off of it, don't need the rest. Seller won't split it up.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14473415183...8AAOSwFexiiFNN
Wheelset and parts are good, frameset is definitely a customization candidate, as the paint is nicked up beyond belief. I don't feel bad about the prospect of removing the much-nicer-than-the-rest fenders off this frame.

-Kurt
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14473415183...8AAOSwFexiiFNN
Wheelset and parts are good, frameset is definitely a customization candidate, as the paint is nicked up beyond belief. I don't feel bad about the prospect of removing the much-nicer-than-the-rest fenders off this frame.

-Kurt
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,191
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2260 Post(s)
Liked 3,774 Times
in
1,890 Posts
I consider the fenders a lot more difficult to find in good shape, given how small time sellers are disappearing off eBay. The ones on this bike are surprisingly intact.
The chainguard will make itself known eventually. In the meantime, I definitely want to secure the fenders.
-Kurt
The chainguard will make itself known eventually. In the meantime, I definitely want to secure the fenders.
-Kurt
Newbie
55 Triumph
I just brought down a 1955 Triumph (SA hub) women's bike from my neighbors garage. He gave to me since he's moving and trying to clean up. No seat or seat post--paint and decals in pretty good condition--tires (Dunlap) turned to tar. Wheels turn easy--click click from hub. Chain and wheel crank are very stiff.
I'm not into too perfect a restoration but what are some fairly good tires--I bought some from Walmart for my Indian 3 speed--2 years ago and they're already dry rot.
Ignorant about saddles--see some with just the frame and cover--others that are sprung. What are reasons for difference? My Indian originally had a Wright sprung saddle--replaced with a soft cushion vinal cover sprung saddle. I am now becoming aware of Brooks saddles and they look great-- see them with and without springs. Looking for any ideas.
TY Cliff
I'm not into too perfect a restoration but what are some fairly good tires--I bought some from Walmart for my Indian 3 speed--2 years ago and they're already dry rot.
Ignorant about saddles--see some with just the frame and cover--others that are sprung. What are reasons for difference? My Indian originally had a Wright sprung saddle--replaced with a soft cushion vinal cover sprung saddle. I am now becoming aware of Brooks saddles and they look great-- see them with and without springs. Looking for any ideas.
TY Cliff
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,191
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2260 Post(s)
Liked 3,774 Times
in
1,890 Posts
Pararacer Col De La Vie if you want the highest-end tire possible (though I feel they're a bit wasted on steel rims, TBH).
-Kurt
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 508
Bikes: 1951 Sun Wasp, 1964 Triumph Sports, 1975 Raleigh Competition, 1990 Schwinn Voyageur
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 318 Post(s)
Liked 330 Times
in
147 Posts
Schwalbe tires if you don't mind modern tread; Michelin World Tours if you can get you hands on them. Both are good quality tires that won't prematurely dry-rot.
Pararacer Col De La Vie if you want the highest-end tire possible (though I feel they're a bit wasted on steel rims, TBH).
-Kurt
Pararacer Col De La Vie if you want the highest-end tire possible (though I feel they're a bit wasted on steel rims, TBH).
-Kurt
Likes For Ged117:
The dropped
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,339
Bikes: Pake C'Mute Touring/Commuter Build, 1989 Kona Cinder Cone, 1995 Trek 5200, 1973 Raleigh Super Course FG, 1960/61 Montgomery Ward Hawthorne "thrift" 3 speed, by Hercules : 1966 Schwinn Deluxe Racer (sold)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1692 Post(s)
Liked 962 Times
in
663 Posts
I just brought down a 1955 Triumph (SA hub) women's bike from my neighbors garage. He gave to me since he's moving and trying to clean up. No seat or seat post--paint and decals in pretty good condition--tires (Dunlap) turned to tar. Wheels turn easy--click click from hub. Chain and wheel crank are very stiff.
I'm not into too perfect a restoration but what are some fairly good tires--I bought some from Walmart for my Indian 3 speed--2 years ago and they're already dry rot.
Ignorant about saddles--see some with just the frame and cover--others that are sprung. What are reasons for difference? My Indian originally had a Wright sprung saddle--replaced with a soft cushion vinal cover sprung saddle. I am now becoming aware of Brooks saddles and they look great-- see them with and without springs. Looking for any ideas.
TY Cliff
I'm not into too perfect a restoration but what are some fairly good tires--I bought some from Walmart for my Indian 3 speed--2 years ago and they're already dry rot.
Ignorant about saddles--see some with just the frame and cover--others that are sprung. What are reasons for difference? My Indian originally had a Wright sprung saddle--replaced with a soft cushion vinal cover sprung saddle. I am now becoming aware of Brooks saddles and they look great-- see them with and without springs. Looking for any ideas.
TY Cliff
You'll need a seat post before you need a saddle. Someone here might be able to tell you what diameter post you should use, but I'm of the mindset where a direct measurement will answer the question without doubt.
Saddles are about personal preference. I think springs are more important with upright cruising because the rider is using the saddle and pedals to balance much more than the handlebars. You only have 3 contact points with the bike, and mountain and road postures both allow you to unload the saddle by using the pedals and handlebars for rough patches without changing your posture too much. I like Brooks because they tend to balance the ability to conform to the rider with a firm surface. Soft padded saddles can redistribute pressures away from the points best suited to bear them to soft tissue around them and trap heat and perspiration, leading to all sorts of issues. Hard saddles that don't fit your anatomy will just be plain uncomfortable. If you're only riding for short trips though, you can probably make anything work.
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,336
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 767 Post(s)
Liked 1,880 Times
in
885 Posts
I prefer the Michelin World Tours for these bikes. They are good quality tires that ride very nicely and look right at home on an English three speed. Last I got them was from Bike24.
Likes For BFisher:
Senior Member
I've been on the search for aluminum rims. those seem to be gone too.
Schwalbe tires if you don't mind modern tread; Michelin World Tours if you can get you hands on them. Both are good quality tires that won't prematurely dry-rot.
Pararacer Col De La Vie if you want the highest-end tire possible (though I feel they're a bit wasted on steel rims, TBH).
-Kurt
Pararacer Col De La Vie if you want the highest-end tire possible (though I feel they're a bit wasted on steel rims, TBH).
-Kurt
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,191
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2260 Post(s)
Liked 3,774 Times
in
1,890 Posts
On the road
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 1,950
Bikes: Old Schwinns and old Raleighs
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 293 Post(s)
Liked 427 Times
in
164 Posts
Panaracer, Michelin, Schwalbe - all better than the basic Kendas. The ride quality on all of those is decent, and each is a little different. The Panaracer gives the plushest ride and the Michelin is sportier feeling, with the Schwalbe in between. The Michelin and Schwalbe come in a couple different colors if you need variety. The Schwalbe has a modern-ish tread. The closest in size of that group to original Dunlops is the Michelin. The Schwalbe and Panaracer are a little larger tires than original Dunlops, but they're also a little plusher riding.
The Kendas aren't bad, but they're not quite up to the others in the list. But if you need a tire and you just want to ride, they will do. Kendas are also sold at some locations under the "Sunlite" brand.
I would avoid Duros and Cheng Shin tires in 590mm for now. I've tried them and they seem more prone to flats, discoloration, drying out, and sidewall cracking.
Save your original Dunlop inner tubes if you can do it. They are better made than the basic, cheap tubes being produced today.
At least there are a few choices for 590mm tires. The Schwinn 3-speed size (597mm) is down to Kendas. They're not bad, a little competition would be nice.
The antique American "lightweight" size of 599mm is even worse - no new tires produced in that size (and there's haven't been in many years). On some 599mm rims, the 597mm Kendas used for the Schwinns will work satisfactorily (but may not work on 599mm rims with taller sidewalls).
The Kendas aren't bad, but they're not quite up to the others in the list. But if you need a tire and you just want to ride, they will do. Kendas are also sold at some locations under the "Sunlite" brand.
I would avoid Duros and Cheng Shin tires in 590mm for now. I've tried them and they seem more prone to flats, discoloration, drying out, and sidewall cracking.
Save your original Dunlop inner tubes if you can do it. They are better made than the basic, cheap tubes being produced today.
At least there are a few choices for 590mm tires. The Schwinn 3-speed size (597mm) is down to Kendas. They're not bad, a little competition would be nice.
The antique American "lightweight" size of 599mm is even worse - no new tires produced in that size (and there's haven't been in many years). On some 599mm rims, the 597mm Kendas used for the Schwinns will work satisfactorily (but may not work on 599mm rims with taller sidewalls).
__________________
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
Not lost wanderer.
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Kampong Cham, Cambodia but I have quite a few in Lancaster, PA
Posts: 3,209
Bikes: In USA; 73 Raleigh Super Course dingle speed, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 72 Geoffry Butler, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 74 Gugie Grandier Sportier
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 840 Post(s)
Liked 863 Times
in
455 Posts
__________________
Cambodia bikes, 85 Gazelle Opafiets market, A Big BMX 29r, Maxwell All-road, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos, 72 Gugieficazione Witcomb.
Cambodia bikes, 85 Gazelle Opafiets market, A Big BMX 29r, Maxwell All-road, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos, 72 Gugieficazione Witcomb.