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Old 12-20-11, 09:59 AM
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Got kind of a newbish question about mine... the chain clanks against the chaincase whenever I go over bumps. The chain isn't excessively slack -- from the midpoint I can push it about 1/2" each way. Is there anything you guys do to quiet this (I'm envisioning gluing a strip of innertube to the inside of the case), or is that just "how they are"?
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Got kind of a newbish question about mine... the chain clanks against the chaincase whenever I go over bumps. The chain isn't excessively slack -- from the midpoint I can push it about 1/2" each way. Is there anything you guys do to quiet this (I'm envisioning gluing a strip of innertube to the inside of the case), or is that just "how they are"?
My Armstrong does the same thing, but I think it adds to the appeal. It has a larger than standard 22T cog though. which may be contributing some.
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Originally Posted by oldroads
Stock Raleigh handlebars, turned upside down.
A very old trick...
Ironically? the Northroad style handlebar was actually a drop bar originally, that became so popular flipped upside down that we now think of it as an upright bar.
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Old 12-21-11, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rhm
Ironically? the Northroad style handlebar was actually a drop bar originally, that became so popular flipped upside down that we now think of it as an upright bar.
Which of the modern variations of Northroad handlebars matches Raleigh's the best (or did Raleigh change the bend over the years?).
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I've found that chain tension, or lack there of, is what causes the noise on my Phillips. Some times if I've changed out a flat the chaincase alignment ends up out of whack, then it's a ride and adjust, repeat, repeat, till it's better, the chain slap is always there to some degree.

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Thanks guys. Until I figured out it was the chain contacting the chaincase, I worried that I had left some important part loose when assembling the bike.
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Has anyone tried a s3x hub in an old Sports frame? Looks like there's a 5mm difference in OLD, the hub being wider than the dropouts.
I've been riding the S3X hub on my daily rider for 2 years now. Putting that hub on a sports frame is do-able ( you'd need to cold set the frame) but maybe not the best idea. I have a '62 Sports set as a dropbar bike and originally thought of using the hub on it or adding a derailleur but after several months of riding and taking it on "group" rides my thoughts began to change.


rhm suggested a lighter frame with simular geometry which makes much more sense. So for now, the hub is on a Raleigh GS Comp which seems to be a good combination but I think even better would be a Super Course or older British Club frame. ( I'm wanting a more relaxed ride with eyelets for full fenders)


I love my old Sports, but it is heavy and would not be improved by adding such a hub IMHO.
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Our Raleigh Twenty was out on loan to my brother in law when I got here so had to content myself with the loan of a Surly LHT which is a fine bicycle (and much like my own Kuwaharas) but it is nothing like an English 3 speed.

And we are getting some British weather today...



The Carradice bag was a lovely gift and really suits the bike to a T... will take this bag back to YEG and fit it to it's mate.


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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Got kind of a newbish question about mine... the chain clanks against the chaincase whenever I go over bumps. The chain isn't excessively slack -- from the midpoint I can push it about 1/2" each way. Is there anything you guys do to quiet this (I'm envisioning gluing a strip of innertube to the inside of the case), or is that just "how they are"?
With careful adjustments you can minimize this but do not think you can ever eliminate it completely.
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Hey Sixty Fiver, Are you in N.E./S.E. area?I may have seen ya and the 20 other day.
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Hey Sixty Fiver, Are you in N.E./S.E. area?I may have seen ya and the 20 other day.
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Here is the photo to which you allude:


I haven't really ridden it yet... just a couple miles. Cool period correct mudguards that might be too fragile to ride this time of year (they get brittle in the cold) sso perhaps I should change to metal. Haven't actually attached the taillight, either.
Wow! That is all.
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Well 'cept for this, a meager contribution to the fine machines I've seen posted here. (sorry, its a 5 speed,)




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Italian 'English' 3 Speed update

I posted a while back about my Bianchi 3 speed and after more time than I have ever spent on any bike, I finally have it back on the road. The seat split along every seam when I tried to ride it, so I busted out a sewing machine and for my first ever sewing project, recreated the seat. Most of the chrome is severely pitted and there is a lot of paint issues, but I love the ride anyway. I took it on a short neighborhood cruise this morning and the ride is smooth as silk.

I feel like the seatpost clamp is backward, but that was the way I bought it. Anyone out there know if it is correct?

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Nice before and after effect billrat! Congrats on snagging your most interesting Italian-Anglo 3-speeder.

The seat post is not necessarily on backwards given the age of the bike.
It was a very common way to mount it (and going back possibly the most common way) to provide the rider with a more optimal fit.
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Well 'cept for this, a meager contribution to the fine machines I've seen posted here. (sorry, its a 5 speed,)
Hey, ilikebikes, that is a 5-speed bike and you really should have posted this bike in this thread instead... I'll ask one of the moderators to move it for you.
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Originally Posted by blilrat
I posted a while back about my Bianchi 3 speed and after more time than I have ever spent on any bike, I finally have it back on the road. The seat split along every seam when I tried to ride it, so I busted out a sewing machine and for my first ever sewing project, recreated the seat. Most of the chrome is severely pitted and there is a lot of paint issues, but I love the ride anyway. I took it on a short neighborhood cruise this morning and the ride is smooth as silk.

I feel like the seatpost clamp is backward, but that was the way I bought it. Anyone out there know if it is correct?
Beautiful work.
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Originally Posted by blilrat
I posted a while back about my Bianchi 3 speed and after more time than I have ever spent on any bike, I finally have it back on the road. The seat split along every seam when I tried to ride it, so I busted out a sewing machine and for my first ever sewing project, recreated the seat. Most of the chrome is severely pitted and there is a lot of paint issues, but I love the ride anyway. I took it on a short neighborhood cruise this morning and the ride is smooth as silk.

I feel like the seatpost clamp is backward, but that was the way I bought it. Anyone out there know if it is correct?

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That turned out VERY nicely! Paint me impressed. Did you by any chance coat the chainring with linseed oil or something like that? I'm asking because the shine is a bit uneven and I'm wondering if you may have taken off some of the chrome in which case you'll want to protect the metal underneath.

What a sweet, sweet ride!
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Hey, ilikebikes, that is a 5-speed bike and you really should have posted this bike in this thread instead... I'll ask one of the moderators to move it for you.
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So, Ilikebikes, have you ridden that James much yet? I have that hub on one of my bikes, and am about to put it on a second. I like it a lot.

Can you adjust that front rack so the top is horizontal? That oblique angle bugs me.

Don't listen to Photogravity, he's just jealous. A SA S5 really is a three speed hub; just a little better-- it's actually two three speed hubs in the same shell. Neat trick.
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Don't listen to Photogravity, he's just jealous. A SA S5 really is a three speed hub; just a little better-- it's actually two three speed hubs in the same shell. Neat trick.
I'm not jealous, just envious. <sigh> I shoulda bought that bike when KonAaron Snake told me about it.
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Did you by any chance coat the chainring with linseed oil or something like that? I'm asking because the shine is a bit uneven and I'm wondering if you may have taken off some of the chrome in which case you'll want to protect the metal underneath.
There is a lot of chrome missing. I waxed it for now. Not sure if there is any other technique to keep the rust at bay.
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[QUOTE][I feel like the seatpost clamp is backward, but that was the way I bought it. Anyone out there know if it is correct?

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The seatpost clamp is "correct", could go either way to get a proper fit, check out the Sunbeam.



Also, check out some pictures of older bikes with the "7" shaped seatpost, it puts the saddle way forward of the seat tube. This becomes really helpful when the bike has relaxed geometry.
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Someone brought this Birmingham Phillips 3 speed into the CO-OP. The hub has 53 on it, so I must be a 1953. I also have the fenders and chainguard but haven't put them on yet. Someone put new tires on it and it rides very nicley. I've been looking for a bike to ride in next years Tweed ride. Mostly likely will take it back to the CO-OP, it will make a nice commuter bike for someone.
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