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Old 05-09-12, 02:25 PM
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One of the prettiest Sports I have ever seen... built it up for my house mate but he can't ride it due to balance issues so am hoping I can find it a new home.



The rims are NOS Mavic 650A... need to build myself another set of these as I have a few pairs left.


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Originally Posted by gna View Post
By the way, who will be riding The Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour this year?
I will be there on a mystery steed. Are you going to be there and, if so, what will you be riding?
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That's really nice, Sixty Fiver. I'm not sure I've ever seen that color on a Sports.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
That's really nice, Sixty Fiver. I'm not sure I've ever seen that color on a Sports.
They seem to have gotten some brighter colours in the mid 70's... earlier bikes are pretty sedate in their colours.
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Old 05-09-12, 02:56 PM
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Do you have the key for the fork lock? I would love to get one made for mine (seen in my avatar)
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Originally Posted by miles.lowry View Post
Do you have the key for the fork lock? I would love to get one made for mine (seen in my avatar)
That Sports has no locking fork, this is a feature on the Superbe.

Your local locksmith should be able to do this for you... the keys are also numbered / coded.

If not, we have one here that will make new Raleigh keys.
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Old 05-09-12, 03:19 PM
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Yea, I talked to a locksmith about it and he looked at me like I was speaking a forign language.
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Originally Posted by photogravity View Post
I will be there on a mystery steed. Are you going to be there and, if so, what will you be riding?
My wife and I are planning to be there. Earlier '70s Raleigh Sports:
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Yea, I talked to a locksmith about it and he looked at me like I was speaking a forign language.
If you can make out the number stamped on the face of the barrel, you can order a new key online from Old Bike Trader or Ebay.
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Love that color. Only made a few years.
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Originally Posted by gna View Post
By the way, who will be riding The Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour this year?
I'll be there, on my Superbe. After last year's monsoon, I've built new wheels with aluminum rims for this year. No more plummeting down the bluffs with no effective brakes!
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Originally Posted by miles.lowry View Post
Do you have the key for the fork lock? I would love to get one made for mine (seen in my avatar)
There's a code stamped on the cylinder that should allow a locksmith to make a key for you. I have a couple blanks for the NGN cylinders, but apparently there are suitable generics that work as well:

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I'll have to check, somehow it has migrated to the back of the barn.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
I'll be there, on my Superbe. After last year's monsoon, I've built new wheels with aluminum rims for this year. No more plummeting down the bluffs with no effective brakes!
But where is the fun in that ?

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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
I'll be there, on my Superbe. After last year's monsoon, I've built new wheels with aluminum rims for this year. No more plummeting down the bluffs with no effective brakes!
Maybe I'll bring a different bicycle with a coaster brake! At a minimum, perhaps some Salmon Kool Stops are in order, eh?
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Hi, I really enjoyed reading this thread last summer and finally decided to chime in since I am just now trying to fix up a ladies Raleigh Sports '73 I found on Craigslist a few months ago. I don't have any experience working on bikes, but would love to get her in better working condition. Please pardon my newbie questions.

I've sprayed WD40 on the cable ends and added WD40 and ATF to the rear hub, but not so much that the fluid was pouring out of the ends. I drained it, but then wondered if i was supposed to leave it in. When I spin the peddle the ticks sound bright to me, so not sure if I need to do more.

The real issue is that I am having some trouble with the SA gear shifter. It seems to click into place when pressing through the gears in a downward motion, but not so when pressing the lever up. I sort of have to press the lever in towards the handlebar to get it to move up if it's in the middle gear. Anything I can do about that?

Thanks!!
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The WD-40 is good for cleaning out the hub, but for the lubrication to stick you ought to add motor oil. ATF is noted for being a good cold weather oil, but bog standard SA oil is SAE 10w-30 or straight SAE 30 oil works for warmer climes and times.
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Hi, I really enjoyed reading this thread last summer and finally decided to chime in since I am just now trying to fix up a ladies Raleigh Sports '73 I found on Craigslist a few months ago. I don't have any experience working on bikes, but would love to get her in better working condition. Please pardon my newbie questions.

I've sprayed WD40 on the cable ends and added WD40 and ATF to the rear hub, but not so much that the fluid was pouring out of the ends. I drained it, but then wondered if i was supposed to leave it in. When I spin the peddle the ticks sound bright to me, so not sure if I need to do more.

The real issue is that I am having some trouble with the SA gear shifter. It seems to click into place when pressing through the gears in a downward motion, but not so when pressing the lever up. I sort of have to press the lever in towards the handlebar to get it to move up if it's in the middle gear. Anything I can do about that?

Thanks!!
The Venerable Sheldon Brown has articles about almost all aspects of owning and maintaining English 3 speeds, including: Servicing Sturmey-Archer 3-Speed Hubs
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Measuring for replacement Sturmey Archer shifter cable?

I originally just posted this in C&V, but finally found "English 3-spds" thread again!

I have two bikes that I need to replace the shifter cable for the Sturmey Archer 3-spds. One is a '71 Ladies Raleigh Sports, and the other is a 1955 Ladies Schwinn lightweight (probably a Varsity). How do I measure the length of the old cable to know which one to order? I found a site that carries several, NOS cables in different lengths: 50", 50.5", 53", 53.5", 54", 54.5"! Do I include the cable anchorage (the knurled, threaded sleeve that attaches to the indicator chain)? Or do I slip that up along the cable itself and only measure the cable with the crimped ends?

Or, on the Ladies Raleigh, does anyone just know what the length is supposed to be for the replacement cable?

Any feedback would be appreciated, Thx, Sherrill
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The factory cable is pre built and the cable length cannot be adjusted so you will need to measure the existing cable from end to end and and match that up.

New SA replacement cables are universal with a non fixed length and barrel adjuster and I prefer these as they fit everything.
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Forgive the cross post.

My daughter and her new (to her) Raleigh Space Rider:



Still a bit big for her. Next summer I wager she'll be riding around the neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by biglee67 View Post
I originally just posted this in C&V, but finally found "English 3-spds" thread again!

I have two bikes that I need to replace the shifter cable for the Sturmey Archer 3-spds. One is a '71 Ladies Raleigh Sports, and the other is a 1955 Ladies Schwinn lightweight (probably a Varsity). How do I measure the length of the old cable to know which one to order? I found a site that carries several, NOS cables in different lengths: 50", 50.5", 53", 53.5", 54", 54.5"! Do I include the cable anchorage (the knurled, threaded sleeve that attaches to the indicator chain)? Or do I slip that up along the cable itself and only measure the cable with the crimped ends?

Or, on the Ladies Raleigh, does anyone just know what the length is supposed to be for the replacement cable?

Any feedback would be appreciated, Thx, Sherrill
Do they have part numbers listed? What Ladies Raleigh do you have?
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Good Stuff, as usual-

http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/...ycle-club.html

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This looks like a decent deal to me...

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1959 Rudge Sports Bicycle - Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub. 26x1-3/8 tires. Frame has mounts for air pump. Black. 31" standover height. Good shape for a 53 y/o bike! New brake cables and shifter cable.

These lugged steel frame bikes will outlast you. Read about them on Sheldon Brown's website, then come check it out and ride it home.

31" standover height.

I'm in center city near Chinatown.

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Originally Posted by mizizzle View Post
Hi, I really enjoyed reading this thread last summer and finally decided to chime in since I am just now trying to fix up a ladies Raleigh Sports '73 I found on Craigslist a few months ago. I don't have any experience working on bikes, but would love to get her in better working condition. Please pardon my newbie questions.

I've sprayed WD40 on the cable ends and added WD40 and ATF to the rear hub, but not so much that the fluid was pouring out of the ends. I drained it, but then wondered if i was supposed to leave it in. When I spin the peddle the ticks sound bright to me, so not sure if I need to do more.

The real issue is that I am having some trouble with the SA gear shifter. It seems to click into place when pressing through the gears in a downward motion, but not so when pressing the lever up. I sort of have to press the lever in towards the handlebar to get it to move up if it's in the middle gear. Anything I can do about that?

Thanks!!
The way you describe the shifter working is how they work in many cases. This is partially dependent on the shifter though, at least generally speaking, the ones that have the plastic faces need to be pressed inward as you shift up through the gears. Downshifting doesn't need the little inward push.
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