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Old 05-20-13, 11:32 PM
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I finally got around to installing new hand grips on my Superbe. The original grips were leaving the palms of my hands black and I decided to preserve them instead of waiting till they were completely destroyed. I bought Cardiff leather grips some time ago and here they are. They are pretty comfortable. For aesthetics, may try the Rivendell cork grips for kicks someday.

On a side note, a local bike shop owner offered me a brand new Trek 1.1 for my Superbe the other day. I thought about it for a few minutes, mostly for the sake of suspense, and politely declined with a "no way!" Granted, the 1.1 is the very entry level Trek road bike, but still, somewhere in the neighborhood of $700 with taxes. Quite a compliment that I was excited about!

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I'll have to think about those grips- they look nice. I just completed the Lake Pepin tour and the biggest problem was the comfort of my hands on the trip.

I also had a problem with the crank on my Superbe that has been tricky to sort. In trying to set the bearing cups, there were some places where it was too free, but rotate it 180 degrees or so and it was too tight. Thinking it was the bearings, I took the whole thing apart and replaced the bearings with new stainless (and also applied grease as no service appeared to have even been done since installation in 1972). It was slightly better but the problem persisted. Next I took it apart again and replaced the bearing cups. That too got things a bit better. One problem I had when I started with no cotter press (plus one cotter pin was stock and the other had been replaced, putting the cranks out of 180 degrees); during this operation I got the Bikesmith press and proper cotter pins which makes things easy.

So eventually it appeared that replacing the bearings did the trick (the BB axle seemed to be straight). The crank was nice and free. I rode it that way for a week and no worries, then I took the bike on the 3-speed Lake Pepin tour. By the end of the first day, my little demon was back- although I was not getting any looseness in the bearings, it was binding significantly during part of the rotation.

This morning I took the left side arm off and presto! -no binding. Upon examining the inside surface of the crank arm, I could see significant scoring around the BB axle hole! I checked the bearing cups- they were set correctly, and the BB axle (as far as I know) is stock. So I filed the inner surface of the crank arm (which was already scored pretty obviously) and reinstalled it. Works fine.

One theory right now is that the BB axle might have been replaced, but if so the drive side has a nice drive line with one spacer on the inside and one spacer on the outside of the SA hub sprocket- pretty much dead on. This means that if that theory is correct, the left side of the axle was the part too short- and if this was done it was decades ago. I suspect though that the crank arm itself was the culprit, as I found casting defects that had not been ground off properly before polishing and chroming.

I thought I would pass this along as it was a vexing problem!
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Originally Posted by Salubrious
I'll have to think about those grips- they look nice. I just completed the Lake Pepin tour and the biggest problem was the comfort of my hands on the trip.
Which bike was yours?
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Originally Posted by gna
Which bike was yours?
I was riding a 1972 Raleigh Superbe in that olive green color. It was equipped with Brooks handlebar grips, steel Lyotard pedals, Sun CR-18s and an alloy seatpost.
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An ongoing saga of rod brake pad replacement. In the last episode I had bought the wrong pads from Harris Cycle and had to return them for these

https://harriscyclery.net/product/fib...-pair-1507.htm .

Unfortunately I got the last pair and as many of you know bikes, particularly older pull up brake Raleighs stop better when both front and rear brakes are fully functional. So a bit of Googling found these

clearly used and from Greece. Other hits that came up were different styles entirely such as these.
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Harris has no ETA on when if ever the 'good' brake pads wil be in stock again. Does the assembled wisdom have any recommendations on vendors of brake pads for a 1980 Tourist?

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Originally Posted by erileykc
An ongoing saga of rod brake pad replacement. In the last episode I had bought the wrong pads from Harris Cycle and had to return them for these

https://harriscyclery.net/product/fib...-pair-1507.htm .

Unfortunately I got the last pair and as many of you know bikes, particularly older pull up brake Raleighs stop better when both front and rear brakes are fully functional. So a bit of Googling found these

clearly used and from Greece. Other hits that came up were different styles entirely such as these.
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Harris has no ETA on when if ever the 'good' brake pads wil be in stock again. Does the assembled wisdom have any recommendations on vendors of brake pads for a 1980 Tourist?

Thanks for any suggestions.
Try this. https://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/fibra...s-id72408.html
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Read through quite a bit of this thread now and my wife has shown an interest in riding a vintage club bike/city cruiser. If any of you have something that resembles the following, send me a message: Higher end women's step-through frame club/city bike/cruiser for a 5'1" woman.

Looking for:
Excellent paint condition, no rust, aluminum rims (I realize many had steel and I am willing to swap them out), sturmey-archer 3 speed internally geared hub, a brooks saddle in great condition would be nice but not necessary, higher grade steel (no high-tensile etc). Prefers brighter colours (no dark greens, blacks, greys, maroon, etc). A chrome headlight with generator would be nice, doubly nice would be if it were already converted to LED. I am not sure which are superior brakes on these but I imagine caliper brakes are more reliable than rod/coaster.

I am also willing to fix something up if it is in need of it provided it can be restored to great condition and the price is right. I am not looking for a low end department store brand cruiser. I have an address in Washington state to ship the bike to.

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Old 05-30-13, 12:47 AM
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And...the next Three Speed Ride in Portland, OR will be Sunday, June 23rd! Meet at Fernhill Park (Important! At the corner of NE 41st and Ainsworth) at 4pm. From there we will roll for about ten miles in mixed terrain, with a picnic stop somewhere towards the end. Yes, bring your teakettle!

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Should this web page be reclaimed from the Wayback Machine? (Maybe it already has...)

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There are so many changes done to the bike on that article that if you did all of them, essentially you would have only the frame, kickstand and chain guard left. If I was going that far I would start with a different frame too. These days the world has changed- its easy to get Sun CR18s now so no worries about rims.

IMO there is some misinformation in the article too- the comment about the cottered cranks seems off. Its not that hard to find a good cotter press- just go to Bikesmith. Cottered cranks remained in use on track frames for a long time after alloy cranks were introduced for a reason (although I am not a particular fan of the Raleigh crank....).

Bottom line is the constant conflict between keeping things practical and operational vs original...
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My oldest bike, a 1950 Raleigh Sports which is all original save for the newly built wheels, brake pads, and Wright's saddle (circa 1935 methinks) and the grips, which ere replaced in 1951.



Will be rebuilding the original hubs with another set of the Mavic 650A rim I have but for now those 1975 hubs will have to suffice.
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Originally Posted by Salubrious

Bottom line is the constant conflict between keeping things practical and operational vs original...
The conflict is only imaginary. Here's my '62 Sports, it's all original or period correct except for the fenders grips and saddle ( I have the correct ones, I've just been too lazy to install them). Anyway this bikes gets lots of miles 50+ at a time. I have no issues with reliability
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Ha!

Back from an incomparable vacation to Huntington Beach/Brookgreen Gardens and was sorely tempted to inquire about this little puppy while there last week...

This is indeed English and it appears indeed to be a 3-speed so I'd surmise that it qualifies for the Lazarus Thread...

Graybeards what say ye about this wee steed?

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[h=2]Old Raleigh Compact Folding Bicycle Bike - $500 (Little River, SC )[/h]I have a really nice condiiton. Older Raleigh Folding Bicycle. This compact bike is easy to take with you. Very nice well cared for condition.
Selling for $500 firm.
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Ha!

Back from an incomparable vacation to Huntington Beach/Brookgreen Gardens and was sorely tempted to inquire about this little puppy while there last week...

This is indeed English and it appears indeed to be a 3-speed so I'd surmise that it qualifies for the Lazarus Thread...

Graybeards what say ye about this wee steed?

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[h=2]Old Raleigh Compact Folding Bicycle Bike - $500 (Little River, SC )[/h]I have a really nice condiiton. Older Raleigh Folding Bicycle. This compact bike is easy to take with you. Very nice well cared for condition.
Selling for $500 firm.
Text or call only.
Sorry no delivery.
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$500? Seems a bit steep. Not sure what model that is, either.
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Looks small, heavy and expensive to me.
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Agreed. You'd need a special reason to want it, and a specialer reason to pay that much!
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Thanks for the sentiments about the vanishing English 3-speeds. In 1972 I bought a new Raleigh 3-speed for commuting in L.A. It was a good comfortable solid dependable road bike and after seven years of blissful riding I foolishly sold it to get a (cough) ten-speed.

Recently I decided that, before I die, to buy a new steel-frame 3-speed. Very hard to find one. Finally got a Chinese made Windsor Oxford. It's a good bike but somehow does not have the same 'spirit' as the Raleigh. Somehow.
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Originally Posted by gna
$500? Seems a bit steep. Not sure what model that is, either.
I'm thinking that maybe it's called a Raleigh "Compact"...

Hoping that the OP, who is definitely an aficionado of the Raleigh folding bikes, would weigh in on this...

And yeah, Velognome and noglider, no way I'd pay the asking price. It does appear to be beautifully made...
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Originally Posted by 77Univega
Recently I decided that, before I die, to buy a new steel-frame 3-speed. Very hard to find one. Finally got a Chinese made Windsor Oxford. It's a good bike but somehow does not have the same 'spirit' as the Raleigh. Somehow.
Raleigh Canada made makes a steel-framed bike that is a modern reincarnation of your old '72 - the Sprite model:
https://www.raleigh-canada.ca/#!lifes...raccordion16=0

But here's some disheartening news about that; better get one while you can if you're in the market and close to the border:
https://www.thestar.com/business/2013...in_canada.html
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There is always https://www.pashley.co.uk/
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77univega, they're not hard to find in the northeast. There are thousands of them sitting in garages.
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most of which are in noglider's garage
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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate
I'm thinking that maybe it's called a Raleigh "Compact"...

Hoping that the OP, who is definitely an aficionado of the Raleigh folding bikes, would weigh in on this...

And yeah, Velognome and noglider, no way I'd pay the asking price. It does appear to be beautifully made...
The Raleigh Compact is the folding version of the Saffron... both are Italian made and Raleigh badged.

The bike listed appears to be a 16 inch wheeled Shopper which was built to compete with the Moulton... 200.00 would be considered a very steep price and this kind of money would buy you a really nice Raleigh Twenty which is a nicer riding bicycle.

This is my oldest daughter's Raleigh Saffron (1980) which is much nicer than the Compact because it lacks the poor quality hinge mechanism.

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Originally Posted by Velognome
most of which are in noglider's garage
Hey! I dumped them all on sailorbenjamin.
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