For the love of English 3 speeds...
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The Hercules is worth more, but keep it. You might love it. I live around the corner from The Hub, so if you'd like me to look at either bike or give you some tips, send me an email at the address below. I'm unemployed for the next week or two, so I have daytimes free.
Whatever they charge is probably too little. They seem to undercharge in general. They're having revenue problems, too. Hmm, fancy that. It's a fine bike. I have one, too.
And certainly I wear a helmet, and I recommend you do, too.
Whatever they charge is probably too little. They seem to undercharge in general. They're having revenue problems, too. Hmm, fancy that. It's a fine bike. I have one, too.
And certainly I wear a helmet, and I recommend you do, too.
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#4828
Schwinnasaur
I know that Sun CR-19 rims have been written about earlier in this thread but I don't think this issue has come up. I have got tired of the poor braking of my Raleigh Sport in wet weather so I bought two CR-18 590 off Amazon. They arrived today. I am kind of alarmed that the rims are so much narrower than the Raleigh rims on the Sport. My tires are Panaracer Col de la Vie and they are wider than other 590's. They barely clear the fenders on the original rims. Does anyone ride with CR-18 and Col de la Vie(s)? How is the combination? Another concern I have is that the brakes won't work as well on this size rim due to less leverage. Is that an issue?
I am planning to lace them up in a few weeks as time permits but as of now I just opened them and can return them if there are issues. I really like these tires. They transform the ride, IMHO.
I am planning to lace them up in a few weeks as time permits but as of now I just opened them and can return them if there are issues. I really like these tires. They transform the ride, IMHO.
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If they're both in running or at least ride-able condition try them both out. See which one feels better to you. The Hercules is most likely the better quality bike, and will probably last over the long term with less maintenance. But . . . . . if you're just looking for a commuter ride rather than a collectable, whichever bike seems to work better for you is the best one to keep. I've saved and sold cheaply a few low end three speeds that gave decent service to their buyers.
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Not technically an English 3-speed, but rather an American cousin Schwinn.

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I know that Sun CR-19 rims have been written about earlier in this thread but I don't think this issue has come up. I have got tired of the poor braking of my Raleigh Sport in wet weather so I bought two CR-18 590 off Amazon. They arrived today. I am kind of alarmed that the rims are so much narrower than the Raleigh rims on the Sport. My tires are Panaracer Col de la Vie and they are wider than other 590's. They barely clear the fenders on the original rims. Does anyone ride with CR-18 and Col de la Vie(s)? How is the combination? Another concern I have is that the brakes won't work as well on this size rim due to less leverage. Is that an issue?
I am planning to lace them up in a few weeks as time permits but as of now I just opened them and can return them if there are issues. I really like these tires. They transform the ride, IMHO.
I am planning to lace them up in a few weeks as time permits but as of now I just opened them and can return them if there are issues. I really like these tires. They transform the ride, IMHO.
Might be a good time to upgrade the brakes (the Tektro 800a's are the way to go as they have more clearance than the more expensive models) and switch to a more typical 590 tire? I'm rode mine through the Chicago winter last year and really enjoyed the excellent braking with this combination!
#4832
Schwinnasaur
Might be a good time to upgrade the brakes (the Tektro 800a's are the way to go as they have more clearance than the more expensive models) and switch to a more typical 590 tire? I'm rode mine through the Chicago winter last year and really enjoyed the excellent braking with this combination!
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Well hi there. I have had those brakes on other bikes and they do work a lot better the stock. For some reason though I was not able to mount them on Raleigh due to clearance issues with the stock fenders. I had Delta Cruisers on the Raleigh and they are nice tires but I prefer the Col de la Vie(s).
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I have got tired of the poor braking of my Raleigh Sport in wet weather so I bought two CR-18 590 off Amazon. They arrived today. I am kind of alarmed that the rims are so much narrower than the Raleigh rims on the Sport. My tires are Panaracer Col de la Vie and they are wider than other 590's. They barely clear the fenders on the original rims. Does anyone ride with CR-18 and Col de la Vie(s)? How is the combination? Another concern I have is that the brakes won't work as well on this size rim due to less leverage. Is that an issue?
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Well hi there. I have had those brakes on other bikes and they do work a lot better the stock. For some reason though I was not able to mount them on Raleigh due to clearance issues with the stock fenders. I had Delta Cruisers on the Raleigh and they are nice tires but I prefer the Col de la Vie(s).
a) Clean the wheel's braking surface with soap and then acetone
b) Koolstop brake pads all around
c) Flatbar brake levers like these:
#4837
Schwinnasaur
Do those brakes have more leverage? I have those on Raleigh Twenty and they help but I put "V" brake upfront, cool stop on the rear and aluminum rim. The braking was dramatically improved but how much was done by what is hard to tell.
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Koolstops and clean rims are the easiest change, so I'd recommend people try that first.
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Quite the elegant couple. I have a near carbon copy of these two (a 61 lady's and 63 gent's). The black Sports of the 60s is, in my mind, the true definition of the English three speed.
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Could I fit 27" x 1 3/8 wheels and tires on a Raleigh LTD-3?
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27 tire on a 26 rim, no. There might be enough room for a larger wheel set, but you'd need to address brake reach and you'd need appropriate size fenders. I've contemplated a 700c with drum-brake conversion.
#4842
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I'm about to put my Raleigh away for the winter, so I'm planning on doing maintenance. I regreased and repacked all the bearings in 2010. I redid the front hub last spring, as it felt a little gritty, and I had to snug up the bottom bracket a bit, but it seems smooth. How often should the bottom bracket be repacked? I put about 1200-1500 miles on the bike each year.
I rotated the Schwalbe Delta Cruisers, but I think they're about worn out. How many miles do you expect to get out of a set of tires? I have some Kenda High Pressure tires I could try, but I really like the Delta Cruisers.
I rotated the Schwalbe Delta Cruisers, but I think they're about worn out. How many miles do you expect to get out of a set of tires? I have some Kenda High Pressure tires I could try, but I really like the Delta Cruisers.
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I'm of the school the tires should not be rotated, the thought being that the rear tends to wear a bit faster, and you want to keep the better tire on the front because failure up there can be worse at speed.
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html
I have a set of Kenda tires on my Raleigh Sports. They've worn quite slowly but are just "ok" as ride quality goes.
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html
I have a set of Kenda tires on my Raleigh Sports. They've worn quite slowly but are just "ok" as ride quality goes.
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For the good people gathered here to learn these machines I think you should post a link to your blog where this Schwinn is featured.
I really like the way you've set the old bike up; not too little; not too much... Pretty much just right.
[That is one of the very early "fillet brazed" Schwinns isn't it? - https://www.sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html]
I really like the way you've set the old bike up; not too little; not too much... Pretty much just right.
[That is one of the very early "fillet brazed" Schwinns isn't it? - https://www.sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html]
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I just got a hold of a '74 Raleigh Sports frame and fork, with the idea of building a fun ride. I've just finished reading this entire thread...cripes, I got some work ahead of me.
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For the good people gathered here to learn these machines I think you should post a link to your blog where this Schwinn is featured.
I really like the way you've set the old bike up; not too little; not too much... Pretty much just right.
[That is one of the very early "fillet brazed" Schwinns isn't it? - https://www.sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html]
I really like the way you've set the old bike up; not too little; not too much... Pretty much just right.
[That is one of the very early "fillet brazed" Schwinns isn't it? - https://www.sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html]
The blog post for it is here:
https://www.bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2...ld-update.html
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You call it a spike ball, too? The six year old kid next door called them that, and I thought it was the best name, so we adopted it. We had two of those trees in NJ, and have of our property was covered with them.
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Yes- they can grow very tall and straight and be nice looking trees, but the spike ball seed pods they drop are murder on bike tires and leaf vacs.
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The trees were next to our back yard, and my dog learned that it was too hazardous to walk there. They got caught in his paws. That must have been painful.
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