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Old 03-12-15, 07:29 PM
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@PalmettoUpstate - I used to buy the Jagwire "kits" for either brakes or derailleurs. These run about $18. Now I buy these:

Universal Cycles -- Jagwire Basics Lined Brake Set - (1 Brake)

Universal Cycles has a store in Portland & they know me by name! I'm in there all the time and great customer service. They're local and they have an area with cats for adoption- hard to place cats with Feline Leukemia- helping out a no kill shelter. They used to let a couple cats roam the store ( it's a big store), but someone complained. Anyway they have tons of product and are fantastic to work with. I'm sure other outlets carry the Jagwire "Basics" kits.

@tbo - I've come to the same conclusion. I am not a purist but I try to respect the era of the bikes. Safety is paramount & my bikes aren't high end, so there you have it.

I will pick up the wheel/SA hub tomorrow at 11 a.m. I'll report back.

Regarding my headset. It's not broken, and I have readjusted it. Has one of those floating race headsets that I've mentioned in earlier posts.

@El Segundo - they're Teflon coated most likely. Lovely brake feeling.
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@Velocivixen I also suspect teflon but so far have not googled the right info source.

Good luck with the wheel tomorrow.

Edit: Found it, lining is PTFE (Teflon) with stainless cables.

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Old 03-12-15, 07:49 PM
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Here's a good question
What does the DL-1 stand for with a Raleigh Tourist?
James Bond (Sean Connery) liked them.....
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
Here's a good question
What does the DL-1 stand for with a Raleigh Tourist?
James Bond (Sean Connery) liked them.....
Just a guess - "De Luxe"
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Just a guess - "De Luxe"
My thoughts as well...
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Biggest issue is with the shape of the dropout slots: rear is made for an Sturmey Archer axle with two slides flat, and it's spaced at 115mm. Front is made for a fairly small diameter axle. I either need to find/build some 27" or 700c wheels with the hubs that'll fit those axles or do some filing.
Why not just build up the wheel using a Raleigh hub?

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Are there any years I should avoid?
Generally speaking, the newer ones just aren't as good. I avoid anything after 1959; that is the cutoff date where they went to plastic oiler ports. The older ones leak more, but are more charming Actually I have '72 hub on my Superbe and it works fine.

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We've been talking about braking recently here, in fact I am one of the instigators of that. I am an absolute newcomer (6 or 8 months) to this idea of English 3 speeds and I only have 2. So take anything I say with a grain of salt and please let me know if I am getting far afield.

So, in addition to the standard recommendations of getting new alloy rims (plus tires and tubes, if at all suspect) for your 3-speed, I would replace getting the Kool Stops with getting modern brakes instead.

Sacrilige?
If it gets her riding then that is what is most important. Geeks for original kit (like myself) will not be riding her bike. Heck I don't even live in the same town

BTW this is the style of brake levers I use on my Superbe. They look very much like the originals but they have more leverage:

Vintage N O s Weinmann Bicycles Brake Levers Made in Germany Mounting Clamps | eBay
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
Regarding my headset. It's not broken, and I have readjusted it. Has one of those floating race headsets that I've mentioned in earlier posts.
Seems to fit into the "if it's not broke" category. If you try to replace it, you might find that you've opened a can of headset worms.

The first issue is one of fit. Stack height, head tube ID, and crown race ID. If you can find someone familiar with what Phillips was doing back in the mid 50s, you can probably get that info. But, the better way would be to measure and in order to do that, you have to take the thing down to individual parts, in my opinion. Certainly don't want to get a headset which requires more steerer than you have.

Then, there is the thread issue. Because the Nottingham Raleighs (and their "brand engineered" clones) are what most of us in this thread are working on, we tend to think of the 26 tpi thread thing. But, if my understanding is correct, that was mostly a Nottingham thing and bikes built by Raleigh at Worksop (Carlton) had 24 tpi, just like downtown. I've never heard of any English bike but a Nottingham Raleigh having anything but 24 tpi threaded steerers. So, that Ebay headset (which seems like a bargain to me, if it's a 26 tpi headset) may or may not work for you. (Thread gauges are nice. I bought one from Amazon which has both tpi and metric for less than $7 delivered. Looks like the cheapest available now is about $13 delivered. They are handy and easily used to impress your friends. Cheap ones are ok -- you don't need Starrett quality.)


then, if you are correct that these headsets were used to compensate for less than optimal machining, then, there's a good chance that the head tube on your Phillips will need to be properly prepped before a common variety threaded headset can be installed. This is not a big deal if you have a shop that can do such things (we do in Houston, but not many). To properly face the headtube, maybe ream the ID, set the races, cut the fork to length -- a well equipped bike shop probably has $1000 or more in tools to do this and it will cost $30 to $75 (estimate) depending on who does it and what has to be done.

So, when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. When you have a lathe, everything looks like a mallet:
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So after lurking on the 3-speed here for some time, I bit the bullet and bought one on ebay:
Vintage Raleigh Men Road Bike
Doing some research, it appears to be a 1978 Spirit. How are these different from the sports. Other than the rack they appear identical.
I don't have it yet. It is in transit to CA from FL. I have my fingers crossed for it being packed well and arriving without UPS induced dents.
I am also hoping its the 27" model for tire availability.
Please feel free to comment on my new to me 3 speed and many thanks.
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Old 03-12-15, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tbo View Post
We've been talking about braking recently here, in fact I am one of the instigators of that. I am an absolute newcomer (6 or 8 months) to this idea of English 3 speeds and I only have 2. So take anything I say with a grain of salt and please let me know if I am getting far afield.

We have these bikes because my wife rides one every day to work. I will do everything in my power to make sure that the bicycle she has is 1) as safe as possible and 2) a bicycle she loves to ride. Based on some very good advice from here in BF C&V, Sheldon Brown, and Lovely Bicycle, I set her up on some professionally built up CR-18 wheels and Kool Stops. She thought it was a good improvement but she hasn't ridden any bicycle newer than her current C&V 3 speed. To my mind, it wasn't quite what I was expecting. Much better, but still not there yet, not by a long shot.

If there has been one big improvement in the last 40 or 50 years in this section of the bike market, it is brake technology. The rest of the bicycle is great. Good balance, nice ride, stable, easy to work on, takes more cargo than an 18 wheeler, and no chain schmutz on your pants leg. That all stands up to any new bicycle in its class today and you can get one for Craigslist money. And that AW hub is just amazing. But as originally configured, it just can't stop itself, especially when wet.

New brakes on aluminum rims are better than old brakes on steel rims. Knowing that, and after testing out the new brakes on my bike, I just can't let her ride around on those old things. Yes, it might lose a little bit of that true vintage look. But vintage looks are not worth risking a possibly avoidable crash over, especially on a daily driver bicycle. If these were truly vintage bikes that were actually worth something, I would consider that as long as we had other bikes to ride. But this is her one and only. So good, modern, non-vintage, brakes with modern alloy rims it is.

So, in addition to the standard recommendations of getting new alloy rims (plus tires and tubes, if at all suspect) for your 3-speed, I would replace getting the Kool Stops with getting modern brakes instead.

Sacrilige?
No, not at all. These are bolt on, reversible mods. You can always keep the original parts with the bike.
Things become important when we make them important. In my admittedly oddball mind, things like old bicycles kept in well preserved original condition are important. I love seeing them and they serve as a reference for my hobby of restoration. But modification is a fun hobby too. Not every feature of an old bike needs or even deserves preservation. When you own an old bike, it's your call to make. It all adds up to a fun hobby and greasy hands...life is good.
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Old 03-12-15, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gmouchawar View Post
So after lurking on the 3-speed here for some time, I bit the bullet and bought one on ebay:
Vintage Raleigh Men Road Bike
Doing some research, it appears to be a 1978 Spirit. How are these different from the sports. Other than the rack they appear identical.
I don't have it yet. It is in transit to CA from FL. I have my fingers crossed for it being packed well and arriving without UPS induced dents.
I am also hoping its the 27" model for tire availability.
Please feel free to comment on my new to me 3 speed and many thanks.
Originally Posted by gmouchawar View Post
Doing some research, it appears to be a 1978 Spirit. How are these different from the sports.
Looks like a Sprite.

Some differences. Most significant is, probably, 27" (630 mm) wheels rather than 26" (590 mm) wheels. Easier to convert to 700 than a Sports, more tire choices as it is. So, the Sports will typically have fatter tires (1 3/8) as opposed to the 1" to 1 1/4 for a 27" tire. So, the Sports may be cushier than the Sprite, but not a lot.

Cosmetic differences : Sprite doesn't have the raised center on the fenders. Rims are not "Raleigh Pattern." Chainwheel doesn't have a Heron. Other minor differences.

The Sprite also came as a 10 speed. We have one of those from 1974 -- step through model. My wife's favorite bike. "It's a roller."

My understanding is that the Sprite shared a frame with one of the Raleigh road bikes of the era, but can't remember the model (Record, maybe).

That looks like a nice bike and with a bit of grease here and there (almost all of these old bikes have been neglected to one degree or another -- yours appears to a lesser degree) it can be a roller too.
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Originally Posted by gmouchawar View Post
So after lurking on the 3-speed here for some time, I bit the bullet and bought one on ebay:
Vintage Raleigh Men Road Bike
Doing some research, it appears to be a 1978 Spirit. How are these different from the sports. Other than the rack they appear identical.
I don't have it yet. It is in transit to CA from FL. I have my fingers crossed for it being packed well and arriving without UPS induced dents.
I am also hoping its the 27" model for tire availability.
Please feel free to comment on my new to me 3 speed and many thanks.
Nice bike, these things can get addictive. Pretty much trouble free with just some simple servicing. You are in the right thread these guys/gals have helped me a lot the last few weeks.
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Old 03-12-15, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post
Looks like a Sprite.

Chainwheel doesn't have a Heron. The Sprite also came as a 10 speed.
Au contraire; it does have the herons on the chainwheel. Add to your list of differences a rear reflector integrated into the OEM Pletscher rack, alloy stem and handlebar. I picked up one [1978] in a 3-speed last year in Florida and was able to check one bike off my "bucket list"... the 3-speeds are pretty rare; most were 10 or 5 speed.
@gmouchawar you scored a very desirable bike IMO and it looks to be in pretty good shape. Best of all, you didn't get it from a bike flipper who thought the rims would look better in black:

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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
Au contraire; it does have the herons on the chainwheel. Add to your list of differences a rear reflector integrated into the OEM Pletscher rack, alloy stem and handlebar. I picked up one [1978] in a 3-speed last year in Florida and was able to check one bike off my "bucket list"... the 3-speeds are pretty rare; most were 10 or 5 speed.
@gmouchawar you scored a very desirable bike IMO and it looks to be in pretty good shape. Best of all, you didn't get it from a bike flipper who thought the rims would look better in black:

Thanks very much. I see that yours still has the white tail on the rear fender. Is yours 1977? or is mine later than 1978. I am probably jinxing it since its still on route, but I also checked off 3-speed from my bucket list. Like many of you this is n=n+1. I may have to sell a Schwinn Tempo to keep the spousal unit happy.
BTW I see rust on the handle bar, so it can't be alloy (as in Aluminum). Also I have a Brooks B72 ready for it to replace that ugly seat. I will update the post with pictures when I get it sometimes next week.

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Originally Posted by gmouchawar View Post
So after lurking on the 3-speed here for some time, I bit the bullet and bought one on ebay:
Vintage Raleigh Men Road Bike
Doing some research, it appears to be a 1978 Spirit. How are these different from the sports. Other than the rack they appear identical.
I don't have it yet. It is in transit to CA from FL. I have my fingers crossed for it being packed well and arriving without UPS induced dents.
I am also hoping its the 27" model for tire availability.
Please feel free to comment on my new to me 3 speed and many thanks.
I took a lookabout thru the catalogs for the years when a 3-speed Sprite 27 was available in "Coffee" and my research was inconclusive as to what year your bike is. It appears to have a steel handlebar vs. the alloy one on my 1978 Emerald Green bike and it has the true "hockey stick" chain guard along with the non-reinforced "Heron" chain ring so maybe you can narrow it down by going thru the catalogs at the link below and sorting it out.

I think you'll really, really enjoy the bike; it's a little lighter than a Sports thus should be a little snappier in stop and go. I'm really looking forward to getting to mine soon.

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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
Au contraire; it does have the herons on the chainwheel. Add to your list of differences a rear reflector integrated into the OEM Pletscher rack, alloy stem and handlebar. I picked up one [1978] in a 3-speed last year in Florida and was able to check one bike off my "bucket list"... the 3-speeds are pretty rare; most were 10 or 5 speed.
@gmouchawar you scored a very desirable bike IMO and it looks to be in pretty good shape. Best of all, you didn't get it from a bike flipper who thought the rims would look better in black:

Right you are on the chainwheel -- my mistake.

Bars on the bike appear to be steel and that doesn't look like an original stem. Is it like the stem on yours? I'd take a close look at the stem/bar combination as the steel bars are smaller in diameter, probably, than what that alloy stem is designed for. It may or may not be an issue, but should be checked and is not a hard, or expensive, problem to address.
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Originally Posted by gmouchawar View Post
Thanks very much. I see that yours still has the white tail on the rear fender. Is yours 1977? or is mine later than 1978. I am probably jinxing it since its still on route, but I also checked off 3-speed from my bucket list. Like many of you this is n=n+1. I may have to sell a Schwinn Tempo to keep the spousal unit happy.
BTW I see rust on the handle bar, so it can't be alloy (as in Aluminum). Also I have a Brooks B72 ready for it to replace that ugly seat. I will update the post with pictures when I get it sometimes next week.
Ha-ha. Cross posting; you'd already noticed the steel handlebar...
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Bars on the bike appear to be steel and that doesn't look like an original stem. Is it like the stem on yours? I'd take a close look at the stem/bar combination as the steel bars are smaller in diameter, probably, than what that alloy stem is designed for. It may or may not be an issue, but should be checked and is not a hard, or expensive, problem to address.
gmouchawar 's stem looks like the one on mine. He noted the non-white tail and that would indicate to me that the bike he has is later than mine but then you have the chain guard issue and his appears to be the hockey stick w/o the lower "bulge" as on mine.
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gmouchawar 's stem looks like the one on mine. He noted the non-white tail and that would indicate to me that the bike he has is later than mine but then you have the chain guard issue and his appears to be the hockey stick w/o the lower "bulge" as on mine.
All the Raleighs (five) that we have with steel bars have steel stems. Because of some discussion here, a while back I measured four of the bars' clamp area and found them to be all a bit different, but close. Too small for an aluminum stem designed for 25.4 mm, though.
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post
Seems to fit into the "if it's not broke" category. If you try to replace it, you might find that you've opened a can of headset worms.

The first issue is one of fit. Stack height, head tube ID, and crown race ID. If you can find someone familiar with what Phillips was doing back in the mid 50s, you can probably get that info. But, the better way would be to measure and in order to do that, you have to take the thing down to individual parts, in my opinion. Certainly don't want to get a headset which requires more steerer than you have.

Then, there is the thread issue. Because the Nottingham Raleighs (and their "brand engineered" clones) are what most of us in this thread are working on, we tend to think of the 26 tpi thread thing. But, if my understanding is correct, that was mostly a Nottingham thing and bikes built by Raleigh at Worksop (Carlton) had 24 tpi, just like downtown. I've never heard of any English bike but a Nottingham Raleigh having anything but 24 tpi threaded steerers. So, that Ebay headset (which seems like a bargain to me, if it's a 26 tpi headset) may or may not work for you. (Thread gauges are nice. I bought one from Amazon which has both tpi and metric for less than $7 delivered. Looks like the cheapest available now is about $13 delivered. They are handy and easily used to impress your friends. Cheap ones are ok -- you don't need Starrett quality.)


then, if you are correct that these headsets were used to compensate for less than optimal machining, then, there's a good chance that the head tube on your Phillips will need to be properly prepped before a common variety threaded headset can be installed. This is not a big deal if you have a shop that can do such things (we do in Houston, but not many). To properly face the headtube, maybe ream the ID, set the races, cut the fork to length -- a well equipped bike shop probably has $1000 or more in tools to do this and it will cost $30 to $75 (estimate) depending on who does it and what has to be done.

So, when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. When you have a lathe, everything looks like a mallet:
Very true! I do always think Nottingham. Every English bike I've ever owned and worked on has been a Raleigh with Raleigh threads no matter what name was on the head badge. I tend to forget some brands survived on their own. And, I seem to be unfamiliar with the type of headset VV has. I only saw what I thought was a horribly worn top cup and those cups would fit.

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Why not just build up the wheel using a Raleigh hub?
That would make sense. I have several already-built 700c and 27" wheels with S-A hubs (or other IGHs), and I even found a 36-hole hub shell in my stash if I want to build a new wheel, but I'm mostly trying to do this project on the cheap as the bike's not my size, and the plan is to sell it off. I also think I'd rather file the hub axles down to fit rather than file the dropouts for the sake of frame posterity.
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post
All the Raleighs (five) that we have with steel bars have steel stems. Because of some discussion here, a while back I measured four of the bars' clamp area and found them to be all a bit different, but close. Too small for an aluminum stem designed for 25.4 mm, though.
I have the green Sprite in the "queue" for rehabilitation so it's easy enough for me to pull out the bikes in front of it and take a measurement on the handlebar. I'll do that this weekend.
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(Thread gauges are nice. I bought one from Amazon which has both tpi and metric for less than $7 delivered. Looks like the cheapest available now is about $13 delivered. They are handy and easily used to impress your friends. Cheap ones are ok -- you don't need Starrett quality.)

+1 that.

I just got one a couple of weeks ago; Nashbar brand, and it has checked out OK. Kinda small though, so needs special accommodation to keep up with its whereabouts.

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Old 03-13-15, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
Anyone know where a [late 70's] Raleigh "Roadster" fits in the Nottingham firmament: https://newjersey.craigslist.org/bid/4909794169.html

Had they dropped the "Sports" model for that model?
Ha, was doing a lookabout on the Sprite Model and at least "solved" this question about the "Roadster" model that looks like a Sports: 'The Headbadge' - Vintage bicycle information

The bike in the NJ ad is "Flamboyent Red"...
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My headset is pristine, not broken, had NON-Raleigh threading or sizing anywhere, and was not made by Raleigh. I likely won't change it, but if I do I wondered what you'd use. I have all necessary tools for the normal headset removal & installation (I made my own - parts from hardware store & work great).
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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post

I just got one a couple of weeks ago; Nashbar brand, and it has checked out OK. Kinda small though, so needs special accommodation to keep up with its whereabouts.
The Nashbar one looks exactly like the one I bought which was advertised on Amazon as "Ice Toolz". Comes out about the same price, too. Yesterday I was searching on Amazon for "thread gauge" and I didn't see the Nashbar one.

Yes, it's a small tool. I have mine in a little plastic box with the feeler gauges. If I don't keep up with stuff like that, I lose it and end up buying another. I don't want two or three sets of thread gauges, so I have to be anal about it.

So, Amazon shipped that itty bitty thing in the same box that they shipped a big box of K-cup coffee things. I knew the coffee had come. because I was drinking some. Happened to check status on Amazon and it said the thread gauge had been delivered.

"Hey, did you open up that box with the coffee in it?"

"Yeah, I did."

"Was there anything else in the box?

"No, just the coffee."

"Amazon says that there was a small tool in that box, too."

"There was nothing in there except the coffee."

"Where's the box?"

"I threw it out yesterday. There was nothing else in there except the brown paper stuff."

"Recycle or regular?"

"Recycle. There was nothing else in there except the brown paper stuff."

"I can't sleep until I check. I'll be right back."

"It's after midnight. There was nothing else in there except the brown paper stuff!"

"Okay, I found it. I'm going to bed."

"There was nothing else in there except that brown paper stuff!"

"Okay. Turn off the TV when you come to bed."

"Goodnight. There was nothing else in there except that brown paper stuff."
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