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Old 12-19-15, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Entry from awhile ago but get a bigger kick out of it now. I have a 73 Sport built in the 6th month and ridden few miles then put into the basement with the furnace.

But sold for very little coin...
A lot of "His and Hers" bikes here n Toronto match this scenario....ridden a few times then put away.
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His & Hers... His & His... Hers & Hers.... Beautiful SPRITES | cruiser, commuter & hybrid | City of Toronto | Kijiji
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First contribution.

This is my first contribution.........
I've been reading about vintage bikes for a while and bought a bit of a wreck, which turned out to
be part 1952 and part 1962. This was my experimental bike which I took apart. Mostly sold off now
in parts.

I then came across this Raleigh Superbe Dawn Tourist from 1955, which seems to be 'totally original'.
Now I know that's a phrase which is used a lot but in this case it looks like it is.
The tires are Dunlop Sprite Tourist which is as stated in the 1955 Raleigh catalog.
I fitted a period prop stand.Everything else looks original.

Anyway here are some pics , hope you enjoy.
Unfortunately whole bike pics were too large, so I'll have to reformat them.




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Old 12-20-15, 08:09 AM
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Ok here's a full pic.
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Originally Posted by Delboy Avenger


Ok here's a full pic.
Is that the battery on the seat tube which holds electricity generated by a dynamo?
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
Is that the battery on the seat tube which holds electricity generated by a dynamo?
Sure looks like it:

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Originally Posted by Delboy Avenger


Ok here's a full pic.
Very nice find! Sure looks like it has been unmolested its entire life! I think you are going to enjoy it. I hadn't heard of 23-28 tubing before - does anyone have any background on this vs the more common 20-30?
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Here's another one of those 70s Raleigh Sports that got put away in the garage for the last 40 years. Looks like original tires, too.

1970 Lady's Raleigh Sports
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Lots of nice bits attached to go with that great coffee brown! Early 70's. Might be a 72'. Tires could be replacements so might still be in rideable shape. Nice price!
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The battery holder holds 3 1.5v dry cells (size D) which act as a backup when the dynamo is not
yet up to speed to produce enough volts or when the bike is stationary.
The dynamo does not charge the batteries.
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These decal placement and font look just like the style used by Raleigh USA division. Was this a company wide use during the mid 80's.

Over the top price for down here, don't know Toronto market. Still nice His&Her bikes.
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Originally Posted by markk900
Very nice find! Sure looks like it has been unmolested its entire life! I think you are going to enjoy it. I hadn't heard of 23-28 tubing before - does anyone have any background on this vs the more common 20-30?
I've seen those 23-28 tubing stickers on early 50s Raleighs, but don't know exactly when they changed to 20-30. I can say that by 1955 they had the triangular 20-30 stickers.
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
These decal placement and font look just like the style used by Raleigh USA division. Was this a company wide use during the mid 80's.

Over the top price for down here, don't know Toronto market. Still nice His&Her bikes.
Yeah, $230.00 each is a bit much. $300.00 for the pair.
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While running an errand this morning I stopped at an antique shop where I've seen bikes before. Found at least three made in England and some need homes. This AMF has promise and is not yet too badly weathered and it's wearing an old tag with a faded $125 on it.



The little Cavalier is only a CB single-speed but has a nifty compact frame.



And the ladies' Sports rusting out front is next to a 3SC Hawthorne with twin arched top tubes.

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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Lots of nice bits attached to go with that great coffee brown! Early 70's. Might be a 72'. Tires could be replacements so might still be in rideable shape. Nice price!
Looks like a 23" frame, too.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
While running an errand this morning I stopped at an antique shop where I've seen bikes before. Found at least three made in England and some need homes. This AMF has promise and is not yet too badly weathered and it's wearing an old tag with a faded $125 on it.



The little Cavalier is only a CB single-speed but has a nifty compact frame.



And the ladies' Sports rusting out front is next to a 3SC Hawthorne with twin arched top tubes.

The fact that you can just ride by these stores and find 3 speeds hanging around for sale blows my mind. Richmond must have a net out for these English fish !

Any going home with you?
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Got something else for my 73 Sport and didn't have to look any further then my bin. Was reading earlier the request for 3 speed parts and knew I had extras so was in the shed root in' around. Lo and behold in the bottom of the tub...

a Raleigh kickstand for 26" frames. Completely forgot I had this. Mine did not come with one and from the absence of dents and scratches never had one. Now it does.

Like how they engineered these to fit inside the small triangle between the stays and bridge.
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None for me right now. Not enough space or time, and I already have three Sportses. The AMF would be nice but I really don't need to spend the money on it. I wish someone would buy these things, but that store is out of town and the customers are all over the furniture and accessories, and no one gives a thought to the bikes rusting away in the yard. If these were at a store in town they'd sell, but would need to be fixed up first. I think any normal customer (not a 3-speed C&V type) would be frightened away by the challenge of bikes in this condition.


Richmond is in love with the old country but, as Tom Robbins wrote, "...longs to wear her knickers, not get into them." Huge Downton Abbey fanbase and Tudor architecture is popular. You'd think more folks would take these Made in England two wheelers to heart.

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Originally Posted by thumpism
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None for me right now. Not enough space or time, and I already have three Sportses. The AMF would be nice but I really don't need to spend the money on it. I wish someone would buy these things, but that store is out of town and the customers are all over the furniture and accessories, and no one gives a thought to the bikes rusting away in the yard. If these were at a store in town they'd sell, but would need to be fixed up first. I think any normal customer (not a 3-speed C&V type) would be frightened away by the challenge of bikes in this condition.


Richmond is in love with the old country. Huge Downton Abbey fanbase and Tudor architecture is popular. You'd think more folks would take these Made in England two wheelers to heart.
I hear you. A friend of mine from Richmond bought and delivered a ladies Sports to me last today. His parents live here and he came to see them for the holidays. It cost me all of $20. It is a late 1970's model, dark blue with a silver head tube. It was sitting under a large roof overhang, so most of the frame paint is OK. I may be able to clean up the wheels. The shifter linkage, including the indicator pin and chain is probably trash. The hub shell is rusty but the hub seems to function well on the stand. The seat had been replaced with a Troxel wedge that looks more like a Cheese Head hat than a saddle.

This looks like a bike that could have been in great condition if some one had only draped a simple piece of plastic sheeting over it.
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Moved a Carradice bag over to the Sport.

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Christmas Update
Record breaking high temperatures here in Toronto have extended the riding season.
This 1972 Eatons Glider started off as a 3 speed but now sports a 1967/68 Torpedo 2 speed Kick Back hub with a coaster brake. I've added a caliper up front for safety as recommended by Noglider in a previous post. Also on his advice, I've backed off the brakes a bit to give them more "throw".

I've inverted some shortened north road bars and a vintage Speedic saddle.

The tires are inexpensive Chao Yang brand from China supplied by George at Parkdale bikes.

All in all an interesting ride and the kick back needs a little getting used to, but I do prefer a 3 speed.
Cost of this project:
Bike @ $75.00 (but it did yield some parts to other projects)
Back wheel and hub @ $75.00
New Tires @ $24.00
Front caliber and lever @ $5.00
Odds n' ends @ $10.00
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Take a look here for the story on this one. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ays-tonne.html . I will be posting more if BF can make their forum work! Can't inpt
I like to see the progress on these things.
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This one has become my main everyday bike. The saddle bags are very handy for visits to the grocery or beer store. The mattress saddle was badly split so it's been replaced with an old Wright's composite saddle. The paint is rough on this one so it's a good working bike.

I'm not sure what bike these bars and stem came from originally. I bought them from George at Parts Unknown, but I quite like them.
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@gster: I like those bars too - are they (and the stem) steel?
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@gster: I like those bars too - are they (and the stem) steel?
Yes, good old fashioned steel.
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