For the love of English 3 speeds...
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Originally Posted by SirMike1983
Yes, the welded frames are thicker walled and heavier than the seamless fillet brazed ones. The Cro-Mo frames were still another step up. The cottered crank bikes were lighter than the ashtabula bikes too. They had a bunch of variations. I tend to think the drawn-seamless New Worlds with three piece cranks and fillet brazing are about on a par with a decent Raleigh Sports. The welded frames are a bit heavier and deader than the Raleigh, but if you throw the lightened alloy upgraded wheels on one, it improves greatly. The wheels can make a huge difference if you can get your hands on a period performance set (duraluminum hubs and lightened rims). The Cro-Mo frames are definitely a step up from the Raleigh Sports. It really depends on what you have on hand.
The tall frame bike in this thread is a later model than what we're thinking of here. They're not badly made, just very heavy for what they are. They tend to be very durable, though "dead" is a good way of describing their ride.
The tall frame bike in this thread is a later model than what we're thinking of here. They're not badly made, just very heavy for what they are. They tend to be very durable, though "dead" is a good way of describing their ride.
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Originally Posted by teisco
Thanks, I would love one but finding one in Iowa is not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by teisco
Thanks, I would love one but finding one in Iowa is not going to happen.
FWIW I saw a DL-1 on CL recently for $150.... I live in St. Paul.
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@DQRider, please don't stop posting your pictures. I really enjoy them.
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Found that DL in St Paul but it's 575 bucks. I would be interested but seller says pickup only. Anyone from there coming to Iowa soon that would like to bring me a bike for compensation?
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Originally Posted by teisco
Found that DL in St Paul but it's 575 bucks. I would be interested but seller says pickup only. Anyone from there coming to Iowa soon that would like to bring me a bike for compensation?
Vintage Raleigh Tourist Rod Brake Bicycle
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Thanks, now how to get it to Iowa?
The Dunelt I found really sparked an interest in English 3 speeds and after riding it a bit I really feel in love. Here are a few pics of my garage sale found Dunelt.
The Dunelt I found really sparked an interest in English 3 speeds and after riding it a bit I really feel in love. Here are a few pics of my garage sale found Dunelt.
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If you search for Raleigh Tourist, Tourist, DL-1, DL1, maybe rod brake, and rod break; you may get lucky. Be patient as others have said.
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Originally Posted by teisco
Found that DL in St Paul but it's 575 bucks. I would be interested but seller says pickup only. Anyone from there coming to Iowa soon that would like to bring me a bike for compensation?
Raleigh Rod Brake Vintage 1978!!!
Raleigh Rod Brake Vintage 1978!!! (Chesapeake Great Bridge) hide this posting
2 - Raleigh "Tourist" - rod brake style bikes - 3 speed sturmey-archer 28 inch rims, one with a brooks seat - both up and running - one is super clean - very collectible - $575 for both
Or...if you feel like rolling your own, there's the bones of one at the local co-op, probably for very cheap. I posted this one a few pages back also, and saw it again just this past Sunday.
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I would want the best one I could afford and with Brooks leather. I just am not mobile so would have to be shipped or driven here by someone coming this way. Anyone? Would reimburse gas, food, whatever.
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Originally Posted by teisco
Found that DL in St Paul but it's 575 bucks. I would be interested but seller says pickup only. Anyone from there coming to Iowa soon that would like to bring me a bike for compensation?
1979 Raleigh Tourist DL-1 roadster - $575 (Sioux Falls)
You might have better luck with the one in Maple Plain/Bloomington - that's actually within the Twin Cities metro area.
Mens vintage Raleigh Bike - $150 (Maple Plain/Bloomington)
Mens vintage Raleigh Bike
That's a proper project, but certainly doable. I have a Brooks B72 I could part with for reasonable $. If you find a facilitator for the bike, I can send that along with them.
We really are making this too easy for you, aren't we?
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If you want to recondition the bike yourself, this Mens vintage Raleigh Bike
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I forgot to give credit to DQRider. Sorry I was late.
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Believe me it is not that easy. 73, retired, no garage anymore, live in apt so would want a nice clean example. I don't mind detailing them but for more mech work I don't have the room or the tools anymore.
I sent an email to the guy in Minneapolis asking if he would ship so waiting on reply. His is the most reasonable one and it also looks great.
I sent an email to the guy in Minneapolis asking if he would ship so waiting on reply. His is the most reasonable one and it also looks great.
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Originally Posted by noglider
@DQRider, please don't stop posting your pictures. I really enjoy them.
Come Spring, I won't be able to resist posting photos of my Light Roadster Project. English by virtue of: 1) English Reynolds 531 Tubing; 2) Built (in Mexico, oddly enough) by former English Olympic Track Cyclist Ian Alsop; 3) Powered by Sturmey-Archer; and 4) Blessed by the Shirt-Tail Organizer of the Gentlemen Cyclists as eligible for the Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour and the ABCE (All British Cycling Event).
Here is the headbadge decal I've had made up for it:
The bike itself will either be stunning, or slightly ridiculous. Won't know until it is complete. But I'll post photos either way. Heck, I suppose I could even post a build diary here, if the 3-speed purists wouldn't be offended.
Those in favor?
Those opposed?
Those in favor?
Those opposed?
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Neutral if you put a sombrero on a heron.
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Originally Posted by dweenk
Neutral if you put a sombrero on a heron.
For good or ill, the Raysport was ahead of its time in terms of international cooperation. I believe the original bikes were built circa 1974. My humble efforts are an homage to the 1949 Raleigh Lenton Model 29, which I'm sure I've mentioned here before. Since I cannot have the real thing, I'm going to build my own idealized interpretation.
Better this than taking a Raleigh Sports and festooning it with modern alloy parts, no?
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Originally Posted by teisco
Thanks, now how to get it to Iowa?
The Dunelt I found really sparked an interest in English 3 speeds and after riding it a bit I really feel in love. Here are a few pics of my garage sale found Dunelt.
The Dunelt I found really sparked an interest in English 3 speeds and after riding it a bit I really feel in love. Here are a few pics of my garage sale found Dunelt.
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Let me interrupt this search for a DL-1 thread for a moment: How about vintage, American, three speed, and lugged?
Don't know if this ever got posted here, but came across this early 50's Schwinn Paramount on flickr. And yep, it's the three speed tourist version!
And here is the full flickr group for all the photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/837910...57632700377506
And the description from the photo album:
SN 563. The Paramount Registry calls this a 1951. I was just going on what the seller told me. They didn't change much from the 30s. Repainted by Waterford in the 90s. A custom build with NOS Super Champion 650B rims on a NOS Bayliss-Wylie front and mint 1955 alloy Sturmey ArcherAW rear with wing nuts, with Mitsuboshi Trimline 650 x 38B tires. Rare Stronglight 49 Cometition steel cottered cranks, Original style Schwinn handlebars and grips, British made lugged steel stem, Brooks B-17 seat and Schwinn bag, NOS Bluemels Lightweight fenders, repro bow rubber pedals. Chain guard is an original Schwinn one and matches the new paint almost exactly.
Don't know if this ever got posted here, but came across this early 50's Schwinn Paramount on flickr. And yep, it's the three speed tourist version!
And here is the full flickr group for all the photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/837910...57632700377506
And the description from the photo album:
SN 563. The Paramount Registry calls this a 1951. I was just going on what the seller told me. They didn't change much from the 30s. Repainted by Waterford in the 90s. A custom build with NOS Super Champion 650B rims on a NOS Bayliss-Wylie front and mint 1955 alloy Sturmey ArcherAW rear with wing nuts, with Mitsuboshi Trimline 650 x 38B tires. Rare Stronglight 49 Cometition steel cottered cranks, Original style Schwinn handlebars and grips, British made lugged steel stem, Brooks B-17 seat and Schwinn bag, NOS Bluemels Lightweight fenders, repro bow rubber pedals. Chain guard is an original Schwinn one and matches the new paint almost exactly.
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Can you believe they'd leave the PV locknut like this?!? For shame!
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Originally Posted by adventurepdx
Let me interrupt this search for a DL-1 thread for a moment: How about vintage, American, three speed, and lugged?
Don't know if this ever got posted here, but came across this early 50's Schwinn Paramount on flickr. And yep, it's the three speed tourist version!
And here is the full flickr group for all the photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/837910...57632700377506
And the description from the photo album:
SN 563. The Paramount Registry calls this a 1951. I was just going on what the seller told me. They didn't change much from the 30s. Repainted by Waterford in the 90s. A custom build with NOS Super Champion 650B rims on a NOS Bayliss-Wylie front and mint 1955 alloy Sturmey ArcherAW rear with wing nuts, with Mitsuboshi Trimline 650 x 38B tires. Rare Stronglight 49 Cometition steel cottered cranks, Original style Schwinn handlebars and grips, British made lugged steel stem, Brooks B-17 seat and Schwinn bag, NOS Bluemels Lightweight fenders, repro bow rubber pedals. Chain guard is an original Schwinn one and matches the new paint almost exactly.
Don't know if this ever got posted here, but came across this early 50's Schwinn Paramount on flickr. And yep, it's the three speed tourist version!
And here is the full flickr group for all the photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/837910...57632700377506
And the description from the photo album:
SN 563. The Paramount Registry calls this a 1951. I was just going on what the seller told me. They didn't change much from the 30s. Repainted by Waterford in the 90s. A custom build with NOS Super Champion 650B rims on a NOS Bayliss-Wylie front and mint 1955 alloy Sturmey ArcherAW rear with wing nuts, with Mitsuboshi Trimline 650 x 38B tires. Rare Stronglight 49 Cometition steel cottered cranks, Original style Schwinn handlebars and grips, British made lugged steel stem, Brooks B-17 seat and Schwinn bag, NOS Bluemels Lightweight fenders, repro bow rubber pedals. Chain guard is an original Schwinn one and matches the new paint almost exactly.
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Originally Posted by Salubrious
Sure it is. Iowa is just the sort of place a bike like that would hang out. Just keep watching Craigslist.
FWIW I saw a DL-1 on CL recently for $150.... I live in St. Paul.
FWIW I saw a DL-1 on CL recently for $150.... I live in St. Paul.
Good luck!
