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I've made a practice of putting a Shimano 23 tooth sprocket on every IGH roadster I've owned, from my Raleigh Tourist to my Twenty. I've found that swapping the 16 for the 23 effectively drop third gear to what used to be second, second down to roughly first, and first becomes something that can actually climb a couple of the hills in my neighborhood.
Doing this conversion on my '69 Sprite has me rarely using the left side shifter under drive.
Doing this conversion on my '69 Sprite has me rarely using the left side shifter under drive.
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Adapt a Shimano Bell Crank to Sturmey Archer?
I was wondering if anyone has converted a Shimano bell crank to fit an S5 S/A axle. The diameter of the S/A axle is larger, but there is not a lot of wall thickness on the Shimano bell crank.
I am also wondering if the Shimano push rod could be a replacement for the S/A (I think the Shimano is a bit longer).
I am also wondering if the Shimano push rod could be a replacement for the S/A (I think the Shimano is a bit longer).
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I was wondering if anyone has converted a Shimano bell crank to fit an S5 S/A axle. The diameter of the S/A axle is larger, but there is not a lot of wall thickness on the Shimano bell crank.
I am also wondering if the Shimano push rod could be a replacement for the S/A (I think the Shimano is a bit longer).
I am also wondering if the Shimano push rod could be a replacement for the S/A (I think the Shimano is a bit longer).
There's no torque on this part so I think a press fit will do. Then drill and tap to the correct size for the SA axle. That would mean getting the correct tap...more$$$
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I was thinking about that too. Although, I know I won't be springing for an S5 even if it would be perfect for my roadster. Just too expensive for me. What I would do with the Shimano would be drill, ream and press in a blank rod.
There's no torque on this part so I think a press fit will do. Then drill and tap to the correct size for the SA axle. That would mean getting the correct tap...more$$$
There's no torque on this part so I think a press fit will do. Then drill and tap to the correct size for the SA axle. That would mean getting the correct tap...more$$$
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I've made a practice of putting a Shimano 23 tooth sprocket on every IGH roadster I've owned, from my Raleigh Tourist to my Twenty. I've found that swapping the 16 for the 23 effectively drop third gear to what used to be second, second down to roughly first, and first becomes something that can actually climb a couple of the hills in my neighborhood.
Doing this conversion on my '69 Sprite has me rarely using the left side shifter under drive.
Doing this conversion on my '69 Sprite has me rarely using the left side shifter under drive.
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1. I've never been able to find the cable casing clamp of the proper diameter for the Raleigh's rear stays. I've got one that's close, but I have to beer can shim it, and after about four or five shifts it starts slipping down the stay.
2. Originally I bought the bike with a SA handlebar trigger because the right lever was broken. Finally found another lever setup. In less than two years, the right lever snapped, so I'm back the handlebar trigger. And looking for another one.
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Can I get permission to post about a build with an FW hub in the thread (when it's ready)?
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Nice to see you post. I was thinking about you the other day when I happened to notice on post #2 in this thread a bike which I think is the same color green as a 64 Sports that I recently took possession of. Hope all is well.
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I was wondering if anyone has converted a Shimano bell crank to fit an S5 S/A axle. The diameter of the S/A axle is larger, but there is not a lot of wall thickness on the Shimano bell crank.
I am also wondering if the Shimano push rod could be a replacement for the S/A (I think the Shimano is a bit longer).
I am also wondering if the Shimano push rod could be a replacement for the S/A (I think the Shimano is a bit longer).
As for the push rod, apparently a substitute can be fashioned from a proper gauge nail.
I have done neither of the above, just been thinking about it since I bought a 4 speed hub that is convertible to a 5 speed. I'm considering it but want to get the hub into a wheel and try it out as a 4 speed first. edit: My hub is an FG which is a combo of the dynohub and the FW hub
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This will get you to there ad for the reflector Spares and Accessories for Roadster Bicycles Raleigh Tourist 28" 635mm at Yellow Jersey Westwood Rims is another keyword Rod brakes British spares Whitworth Phillips Tourist.
It's a strange site with lots of pages that don't look like they've been updated in about 20 years. The whole thing has a sort of "vintage" look to it.
It's a strange site with lots of pages that don't look like they've been updated in about 20 years. The whole thing has a sort of "vintage" look to it.
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IMO, I'd look for one with the white housing around the reflector, if that's what was like the original on your bike.
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Interesting. Would love to see the rest of the bike. I own a 1958 Sun Cresta with a 5 speed Benelux RD.
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Use of a Shimano bell crank is possible, according to RHM and also according to the BikeSmith guy in Minnesota who sells the cottered crank tools and Raleigh cut cotters. Problem is that there is likely no tap available of the correct size. Not that I've been able to find, anyway. Someone said that Sheldon Brown used an AW axle as a tap.
As for the push rod, apparently a substitute can be fashioned from a proper gauge nail.
I have done neither of the above, just been thinking about it since I bought a 4 speed hub that is convertible to a 5 speed. I'm considering it but want to get the hub into a wheel and try it out as a 4 speed first. edit: My hub is an FG which is a combo of the dynohub and the FW hub
As for the push rod, apparently a substitute can be fashioned from a proper gauge nail.
I have done neither of the above, just been thinking about it since I bought a 4 speed hub that is convertible to a 5 speed. I'm considering it but want to get the hub into a wheel and try it out as a 4 speed first. edit: My hub is an FG which is a combo of the dynohub and the FW hub
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Sun is somewhat over looked but made great bikes--and one of the largest makers of tandems frames.
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My second English was purchased today for $5. After working on the Huffy, I think I can breeze through this:



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1971 Robin Hood "Sports Model"
All the recent chatter about gearing and sprockets got me interested in making some changes to the '71 Robin Hood. It came to me totally original and wearing an 18 tooth cog with a 46T chain ring. After two years of riding I have found the gearing too big for the type of riding done with this bike. I use it for my leisurely nostalgic cruising about bike. I had a 20T in the parts bin, but my LBS which was once a Raleigh dealer had a new 21T which I paid $8.00 for.(that was the original price on the part).
I also replaced the chain with a new KMC. The only difficult part of the job was sizing the chain. Even a 1/2 link was not a help. In the center of the dropouts, I had fender clearance issues with the Schwalbe tires. so I went back to about where it was before and not requiring a 1/2 link as before. No chance to ride it yet due to crappy winter weather but I think it will fine.
While I was at it, I replaced the hard thin white plastic bar tape with something more comfortable if not as period.
I also replaced the chain with a new KMC. The only difficult part of the job was sizing the chain. Even a 1/2 link was not a help. In the center of the dropouts, I had fender clearance issues with the Schwalbe tires. so I went back to about where it was before and not requiring a 1/2 link as before. No chance to ride it yet due to crappy winter weather but I think it will fine.
While I was at it, I replaced the hard thin white plastic bar tape with something more comfortable if not as period.
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What a well preserved specimen that is, @browngw.
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I never get tired of seeing this bike. I think you'll be pleased with the mod. I think it gives 3rd a good tempo and cruising speed for this type of bike and it sure is handy to have a choice of lower gears to work with, especially in hilly country. Much more useful than an overdrive
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I have a 22t on a 56 Sports with 48t in front. It has a light so I ride it in the middle of the night. The other night I actually got it into 3rd gear for a sustained stretch and was feeling real good about losing weight and getting into shape. Then I turned and fought the headwind all the way home. Oh, well.
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