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Old 02-21-17, 10:57 AM
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It's not English, and it's not a 3-speed, but here's the bike I've got set up as my winter/wet-weather beater. It has Sturmey-Archer drum brake hubs, with a 5-speed in the rear. It's a bit of a frankenbike that's gone through a few different iterations - the previous build was on a different frame, with a 1971 AW hub laced into a CR18 to match the front wheel, and drop bars with an STI lever controlling the 3-speed hub. A friend gave me the 5-speed wheel in a trade for a cassette wheel I had lying around, and I decided I wanted an upright bike this winter...and it's on a different frame because the seatpost got seized into the other one!






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Old 02-21-17, 02:50 PM
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My wife and I took our annual visit to her mother in Palm Beach, Florida. We keep bikes of our own there, and that's where I keep my Rudge. I got to ride it three times over five days.



It got super dusty in the bike room over the year. After shooting this picture, I wiped it down a bit. The saddle is rotting, and the rear rim is rusting, but so far, so good.
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Old 02-21-17, 05:03 PM
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Old 02-21-17, 05:58 PM
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Ever seen a rod brake tandem before?
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Old 02-21-17, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChief
Well, it is a 50s frame, but 21". Looks like Raleigh pattern steel rims to me. If the wheels are original to the frame and can be cleaned up, that would make it worth 50 bucks. Hard to see in the picture, but it looks like they may be in decent shape.
Not interested in the bike just because it's '50s, and not interested in a 21" anyway. Hard for me to tell about the rims, as I said. Not interested otherwise, but if they were alloys it's the only thing that would interest me. I could swap them over to my own Sports. Does not seem reasonable that someone would have gone to the trouble to lace them up for a bike that looks like that one. No offense to anyone who might have done exactly that.
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Old 02-21-17, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JaccoW
Ever seen a rod brake tandem before?
A buddy of mine found an old (at the time and this occurred in the late '70s, to give you an idea of how old) Phillips tandem with 28" wheels and rod brakes. He resprayed it red which even at the time seemed a bit outrageous.
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Old 02-22-17, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider
My wife and I took our annual visit to her mother in Palm Beach, Florida. We keep bikes of our own there, and that's where I keep my Rudge. I got to ride it three times over five days.



It got super dusty in the bike room over the year. After shooting this picture, I wiped it down a bit. The saddle is rotting, and the rear rim is rusting, but so far, so good.
Glad you got some winter riding in. It's been hot down here this year. I get a 10 mile ride in most every morning before the sun gets high.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
Glad you got some winter riding in. It's been hot down here this year. I get a 10 mile ride in most every morning before the sun gets high.
Where is down there? It's not in your profile.

Funny how the cycling season is fall through spring in Florida. I reported some problems with the bikes I rented for my daughter and her boyfriend. The shop mechanic said yes, they're due for maintenance, implying they'll get to it when the season ends soon.
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Originally Posted by noglider
Where is down there? It's not in your profile.

Funny how the cycling season is fall through spring in Florida. I reported some problems with the bikes I rented for my daughter and her boyfriend. The shop mechanic said yes, they're due for maintenance, implying they'll get to it when the season ends soon.
I've been working with my wife just west of PB in horse country this winter. Been a hot dry season so far. If I don't get my ride in early before the heat of the day, I don't ride at all. Got my roadster with me this year.

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Old 02-22-17, 10:42 AM
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Oh I remember now, @BigChief. We had tried to connect last year.
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Old 02-24-17, 06:00 PM
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Technically, I guess these don't belong here because the Sturmey 3-speeds are not on English bikes and the English bike is not a 3-speed.

We'd gone up to the Blue Ridge Parkway for a hike and then into Waynesboro after for ice cream, and drove past an antique shop with some old bikes out front, one with hand brakes and Sturmey trigger. Had to swing by on the way back. I was disappointed to see that the gold one with the peaked chrome fenders was a Huffy Sportsman, one of the gaspipe versions made in the good old US of A, not one of the foreign-built Huffy bikes. Hand brakes and Sturmey 3-speed on a crummy frame.
E3_1.jpg

The black bike was one I'd never seen before, a Raleigh LTD-SC. Looked like your typical Raleigh 3-speed but a coaster brake bike without the 3-speed. No hand brakes, very plainclothes.
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In the back room was another 3-speed find, a Columbia gaspipe bike, but this one also sported a Sturmey hub and hand brakes. All very disconcerting, the world turned upside down.
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Old 02-24-17, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by noglider
My wife and I took our annual visit to her mother in Palm Beach, Florida. We keep bikes of our own there, and that's where I keep my Rudge. I got to ride it three times over five days.



It got super dusty in the bike room over the year. After shooting this picture, I wiped it down a bit. The saddle is rotting, and the rear rim is rusting, but so far, so good.
I will always have a sentimental fondness for Rudges. I so wish I still had mine, although I'm certain it would be much too small for me now. Hope you had a good visit.
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Hi All, great bikes lately. I've been away from bikes for a bit so haven't posted much. I did a complete tear down of a Raleigh Twenty with dynohub hub last Spring and before I could get it all reassembled, just walked away. Burned out? Maybe....

Anyway, I still have my three R20's - one painted and "modernized" and the other two, a '71 "Miss Molly", and a '73 still waiting for me to reinstall rear fender & rack. The '73 has front dynohub & lights what are broken.

I miss you folks.....

Oh, I'll add that one of my R20's hangs from a hook in the garage, and apparently I had the oil port facing down, so it leaked onto the rim & tire. No biggie, but when I rehung it, I used blue painters take to secure the rear wheel with the spout facing up!
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
Hi All, great bikes lately. I've been away from bikes for a bit so haven't posted much. I did a complete tear down of a Raleigh Twenty with dynohub hub last Spring and before I could get it all reassembled, just walked away. Burned out? Maybe....

Anyway, I still have my three R20's - one painted and "modernized" and the other two, a '71 "Miss Molly", and a '73 still waiting for me to reinstall rear fender & rack. The '73 has front dynohub & lights what are broken.

I miss you folks.....

Oh, I'll add that one of my R20's hangs from a hook in the garage, and apparently I had the oil port facing down, so it leaked onto the rim & tire. No biggie, but when I rehung it, I used blue painters take to secure the rear wheel with the spout facing up!
We missed you too! Glad to see you back.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
Hi All, great bikes lately. I've been away from bikes for a bit so haven't posted much. I did a complete tear down of a Raleigh Twenty with dynohub hub last Spring and before I could get it all reassembled, just walked away. Burned out? Maybe....

Anyway, I still have my three R20's - one painted and "modernized" and the other two, a '71 "Miss Molly", and a '73 still waiting for me to reinstall rear fender & rack. The '73 has front dynohub & lights what are broken.

I miss you folks.....

Oh, I'll add that one of my R20's hangs from a hook in the garage, and apparently I had the oil port facing down, so it leaked onto the rim & tire. No biggie, but when I rehung it, I used blue painters take to secure the rear wheel with the spout facing up!
Glad to see you've returned.
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Vv,

Not posting ever so often is fine, but don't ever leave bikes out of your life. Look forward to all the future postings you decide to share!
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@BigChief, @gster, @3speedslow - Thanks!
I would look at the posts here but didn't have anything to add, so I read more than I contributed.
Fortunately there are a few C & V folks around here that I can keep in touch face to face with various vintage inspired events.
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Anyone know where I can get a replacement SA shifter cable for my '78 Raleigh? EBay? Anyone selling? I had to cut the one I had because of rust.
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Anyone know where I can get a replacement SA shifter cable for my '78 Raleigh? EBay? Anyone selling? I had to cut the one I had because of rust.
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eBay usually has plenty, but they vary a great deal in overall length of cable and length of housing. Measure what you have first and go from there.
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@2cam16 - This ought to do:

Sturmey-Archer 3-speed Shift cable w/anchorage 1420mm - Harris Cyclery bicycle shop - West Newton, Massachusetts
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Finally got my 75 sports out to ride after replacing the original saddle and tires We have an eight mile loop at the local park rode like a gem
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Anyone know where I can get a replacement SA shifter cable for my '78 Raleigh? EBay? Anyone selling? I had to cut the one I had because of rust.
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The easiest thing would be to fit a modern cable with the pinch bolt adapter like this.
Sturmey-Archer 3-speed Shift cable w/anchorage 1420mm - Harris Cyclery bicycle shop - West Newton, Massachusetts
Although, this one has a casing that's way too long and would need to be cut.

But, keep the original knurled barrel adjuster and ferrule and even the original casing if it's in good enough condition in case you ever want to make up an original style cable yourself.
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Awesome. Thanks for everyone's help!!
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I finally got my ANT built up and rideable! Still needs a couple little details dealt with, but it rides really nicely. Here are some pictures I took of it on a quick test ride this afternoon:







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Nice touch with the quadrant shifter, really sells the roadster vibe. Is it sub 30 lbs for the win?
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