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How about a nice American English 3-speed?
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/6134991559.html
1961 Western Flyer/Raleigh - $150 (Mechanicsville)

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model name / number: Tourist
This is a 1961 Western Flyer Tourist. It is made in England and it is a rare find. Especially in this good of condition. Not many of this model Western Flyers made. They were produced by Raleigh and badged for Western Flyer stores. Bike looks great for the age! It has the 3 speed Sturney Archer hub and works fine. Still has the original "Davis Deluxe" front tire.
Great rider and well worth the price!
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1961 Western Flyer/Raleigh - $150 (Mechanicsville)

condition: excellent
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model name / number: Tourist
This is a 1961 Western Flyer Tourist. It is made in England and it is a rare find. Especially in this good of condition. Not many of this model Western Flyers made. They were produced by Raleigh and badged for Western Flyer stores. Bike looks great for the age! It has the 3 speed Sturney Archer hub and works fine. Still has the original "Davis Deluxe" front tire.
Great rider and well worth the price!
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I've always like the ;'Williams' style patterned chainring on those as opposed to the typical Raleigh rebrand.. I think they are Nicklin made.
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How about a nice American English 3-speed?
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/6134991559.html
1961 Western Flyer/Raleigh - $150 (Mechanicsville)

condition: excellent
make / manufacturer: Western Flyer
model name / number: Tourist
This is a 1961 Western Flyer Tourist. It is made in England and it is a rare find. Especially in this good of condition. Not many of this model Western Flyers made. They were produced by Raleigh and badged for Western Flyer stores. Bike looks great for the age! It has the 3 speed Sturney Archer hub and works fine. Still has the original "Davis Deluxe" front tire.
Great rider and well worth the price!
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/6134991559.html
1961 Western Flyer/Raleigh - $150 (Mechanicsville)

condition: excellent
make / manufacturer: Western Flyer
model name / number: Tourist
This is a 1961 Western Flyer Tourist. It is made in England and it is a rare find. Especially in this good of condition. Not many of this model Western Flyers made. They were produced by Raleigh and badged for Western Flyer stores. Bike looks great for the age! It has the 3 speed Sturney Archer hub and works fine. Still has the original "Davis Deluxe" front tire.
Great rider and well worth the price!
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Will you talk to me or show me your small wheeled bike with a front DRUM brake? I've ordered 20" (406) Rhyno Lite rims for my 1973 Raleigh Twenty. Currently with an old dynohub.
I've never ridden a bike with drum brakes and want to try them. Sturmey Archer has the X-FD 70mm which looks appropriate.
Wonder about the clamp on reaction arm and torque on the fork. Online research indicates I should be fine. Thoughts?
Can I use my original brake lever or do I require one with different pull ratio? Thanks.
I've never ridden a bike with drum brakes and want to try them. Sturmey Archer has the X-FD 70mm which looks appropriate.
Wonder about the clamp on reaction arm and torque on the fork. Online research indicates I should be fine. Thoughts?
Can I use my original brake lever or do I require one with different pull ratio? Thanks.
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I always figured they were made by Hercules since so many Hercs used them.
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On the second day, once at Lake City most of our ride was well away from US-61.
It does seem that the more time you spend on the ride not getting there, the more fun you have as long as its not mechanical

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We avoided a lot of WI-35 by taking back roads, which were flush with wild flowers and maybe a car every 15 minutes or so. So we bypassed Stockholm and all of WI-35 to Pepin as well.
On the second day, once at Lake City most of our ride was well away from US-61.
It does seem that the more time you spend on the ride not getting there, the more fun you have as long as its not mechanical
On the second day, once at Lake City most of our ride was well away from US-61.
It does seem that the more time you spend on the ride not getting there, the more fun you have as long as its not mechanical


On Sunday, when I saw you two leaving Lake City, I almost asked if I could tag along, but thought better of it. Sometimes three's a crowd...
Anyway, I had many bikes to photograph, so I kept plenty busy. Here are some more:

This bike intrigued me; one of the fabled Lenton Sports. This one looks well-used.

A vision from the past, brought up-to-date by the youths sporting t-shirts.

It appears the Hun has infiltrated our lines!


Here is a Raleigh 5-speed with a well-equipped cockpit. Refreshments at your fingertips - cocktail anyone?

Another well-equipped steed. I hope those saddlebag straps are plenty strong.

Judging by the cannons on the crank wheel, I would guess this is a BSA. Or an Enfield?
That's enough for tonight. I'll put out some more tomorrow.
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Three cannon would be Royal Enfield.
I took out this 1947 Schwinn Continental 3-speed for a ride this evening. It's really summer-like this week.

I took out this 1947 Schwinn Continental 3-speed for a ride this evening. It's really summer-like this week.


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Will you talk to me or show me your small wheeled bike with a front DRUM brake? I've ordered 20" (406) Rhyno Lite rims for my 1973 Raleigh Twenty. Currently with an old dynohub.
I've never ridden a bike with drum brakes and want to try them. Sturmey Archer has the X-FD 70mm which looks appropriate.
Wonder about the clamp on reaction arm and torque on the fork. Online research indicates I should be fine. Thoughts?
Can I use my original brake lever or do I require one with different pull ratio? Thanks.
I've never ridden a bike with drum brakes and want to try them. Sturmey Archer has the X-FD 70mm which looks appropriate.
Wonder about the clamp on reaction arm and torque on the fork. Online research indicates I should be fine. Thoughts?
Can I use my original brake lever or do I require one with different pull ratio? Thanks.
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We avoided a lot of WI-35 by taking back roads, which were flush with wild flowers and maybe a car every 15 minutes or so. So we bypassed Stockholm and all of WI-35 to Pepin as well.
On the second day, once at Lake City most of our ride was well away from US-61.
It does seem that the more time you spend on the ride not getting there, the more fun you have as long as its not mechanical
On the second day, once at Lake City most of our ride was well away from US-61.
It does seem that the more time you spend on the ride not getting there, the more fun you have as long as its not mechanical

On my second year I did the trip up to Maiden Rock. That was brutal. I think I might try that Stockholm bypass at some point. (Do you have the route?) Stockholm isn't my fave town on the WI side, so I wouldn't miss it up.
On the MN side, I always make a point to get off of 61 as much as possible. I love County 10/County 4 between Wabasha and Lake City, Territorial Road between Lake City and Frontenac, and Hill St out of Frontenac.
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All of this Pepin talk makes me bummed that I missed it this year. 
But there will be 2018!
Anyways, it got nice here in Portland, so I pulled out the Superbe and did a nice 30 mile ride in honor of the Three Speed Tour.




But there will be 2018!
Anyways, it got nice here in Portland, so I pulled out the Superbe and did a nice 30 mile ride in honor of the Three Speed Tour.




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Tweed Ride to Roll Through Sac Jan. 30th
Then there are also a bunch of Facebook pages as well. So they are definitely out there, you just have to find them.
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This year it was sunny and warm, shirtsleeve weather, and they were out in force. Not to mention the fact that it was the fishing opener as well, and some of these ****ers in their diesel duallies towing their boats like to buzz folks on bicycles. WI-35 was not a nice place to be last weekend, especially in places where the shoulder narrowed.
I will be scouting alternate routes for next year, and might even make up some maps for those who want them.
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A quick search for "Tweed Ride, Sacramento, CA" turned up this:
Tweed Ride to Roll Through Sac Jan. 30th
Then there are also a bunch of Facebook pages as well. So they are definitely out there, you just have to find them.
Tweed Ride to Roll Through Sac Jan. 30th
Then there are also a bunch of Facebook pages as well. So they are definitely out there, you just have to find them.

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(Please pardon me if this shows up as a duplicate post. I thought I posted it, but it never showed up.
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On Sunday, when I saw you two leaving Lake City, I almost asked if I could tag along, but thought better of it. Sometimes three's a crowd...
Anyway, I had many bikes to photograph, so I kept plenty busy. Here are some more:

This bike intrigued me; one of the fabled Lenton Sports. This one looks well-used.

A vision from the past, brought up-to-date by the youths sporting t-shirts.

It appears the Hun has infiltrated our lines!
This is a 3-speed of German origins - forgot the name. Anyone?

Here is a Raleigh 5-speed with a well-equipped cockpit. Refreshments at your fingertips - cocktail anyone?

Another well-equipped steed. I hope those saddlebag straps are plenty strong.

Judging by the cannons on the crank wheel, I would guess this is a BSA. Or an Enfield?
That's enough for tonight. I'll put out some more tomorrow.

On Sunday, when I saw you two leaving Lake City, I almost asked if I could tag along, but thought better of it. Sometimes three's a crowd...
Anyway, I had many bikes to photograph, so I kept plenty busy. Here are some more:

This bike intrigued me; one of the fabled Lenton Sports. This one looks well-used.

A vision from the past, brought up-to-date by the youths sporting t-shirts.

It appears the Hun has infiltrated our lines!


Here is a Raleigh 5-speed with a well-equipped cockpit. Refreshments at your fingertips - cocktail anyone?

Another well-equipped steed. I hope those saddlebag straps are plenty strong.

Judging by the cannons on the crank wheel, I would guess this is a BSA. Or an Enfield?
That's enough for tonight. I'll put out some more tomorrow.
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More From Lake Pepin 2017
The fellow who organizes this ride is named Jon Sharratt. He always brings excellent machinery to the event. Here is his Humber, which was featured in an earlier group photo:

And yes, it IS a coincidence that his bike has nearly the same color scheme as mine.

This shot, taken outside "Flat Pennies Ice Cream" shop, shows someone taking a closer look at the pedals on my Raysport.

This fellow seems to have captured the spirit of the event. Saturday morning at Colville Park.

Taken on one of the side routes, this shot shows the Kemper (Pedersen) in action.

Here's the crowd at the "Eagle's Nest" getting ready for the off on Sunday morning. That is Noel Robinson, the ride's founder, holding forth from the tabletop.

This is one superb Superbe.

Here's my ride, lounging against a wall in downtown Wabasha. This place has the feel of a theme park, in fact it reminds me of standing on the main street of Disneyland.

And finally, for those who don't know me, here's a "selfie" I took while waiting for a cup of coffee at the historic Anderson House in Wabasha.

And yes, it IS a coincidence that his bike has nearly the same color scheme as mine.

This shot, taken outside "Flat Pennies Ice Cream" shop, shows someone taking a closer look at the pedals on my Raysport.

This fellow seems to have captured the spirit of the event. Saturday morning at Colville Park.

Taken on one of the side routes, this shot shows the Kemper (Pedersen) in action.

Here's the crowd at the "Eagle's Nest" getting ready for the off on Sunday morning. That is Noel Robinson, the ride's founder, holding forth from the tabletop.

This is one superb Superbe.

Here's my ride, lounging against a wall in downtown Wabasha. This place has the feel of a theme park, in fact it reminds me of standing on the main street of Disneyland.

And finally, for those who don't know me, here's a "selfie" I took while waiting for a cup of coffee at the historic Anderson House in Wabasha.
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My favorite bits of the tour seemed to be the getting off of 35/61. Though I don't feel that 35 is as bad as DQRider makes it out to be!
On my second year I did the trip up to Maiden Rock. That was brutal. I think I might try that Stockholm bypass at some point. (Do you have the route?) Stockholm isn't my fave town on the WI side, so I wouldn't miss it up.
On the MN side, I always make a point to get off of 61 as much as possible. I love County 10/County 4 between Wabasha and Lake City, Territorial Road between Lake City and Frontenac, and Hill St out of Frontenac.
On my second year I did the trip up to Maiden Rock. That was brutal. I think I might try that Stockholm bypass at some point. (Do you have the route?) Stockholm isn't my fave town on the WI side, so I wouldn't miss it up.
On the MN side, I always make a point to get off of 61 as much as possible. I love County 10/County 4 between Wabasha and Lake City, Territorial Road between Lake City and Frontenac, and Hill St out of Frontenac.
I wanted to do County 10 this year but my companion was not up to it. We did do the Territorial Road and the Ski Road.
Stockholm Bypass: Take the first paved road to the left outside of Maiden Rock (marked 'Rustic Road'). After you cross the stream, turn left on the gravel road (marked 'Next 4 miles'). After 4 stream crossings the road becomes steeper. A left at the top will get you to flat pavement pretty fast with the least amount of HAB (at the pavement, go right to County CC, take a right to Lund and follow CC), but if you want a bit more of a challenge go right (that's the way we went). The steepest part will be after the road goes to pavement. Take a left at County Hiway J. Option: take the Slough Road (gravel) just a short bit up J. Otherwise stay on J to Lund, go straight (Lund is a pretty small village) take Co Hiway CC to the right just east of Lund. Proceed south to Pepin. Alternate: approaching Pepin, take the Sandhill Road; watch for the cemetery and so a slight left turn. This will take you a bit further east. You can then take the Trail Road which puts you on WI35 about 2 miles east of Pepin.
We got to Wabasha with only enough time to check in and then get dinner provided by the Tour at the Eagle's Nest. I slept very well that night

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Thanks @noglider - I think I've seen yours before too. Please tell me that the drum brake will be better than a very long reach front (original) caliper, even on modern rims. 
In part, I've never experienced a drum brake in any way, so want to try it. I've scoured the web for various comments and opinions about them.
Tom, what are your thoughts? Thank you.

In part, I've never experienced a drum brake in any way, so want to try it. I've scoured the web for various comments and opinions about them.
Tom, what are your thoughts? Thank you.
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The drum brake is most definitely better than that unconscionable caliper. That should not have been sold on the open market.
It basically feels like a brake. It needs breaking in for a few miles, though.
The Citi Bike bikes came with Shimano drum brakes in model 1. Now model 2 has SA hubs. The Shimano requires too much hand strength. I have big strong hands, and even I thought it was inappropriate for a bike model intended for everyone. The SA hubs stop really really easily, and of course, they don't care about weather.
I was wondering what I would do about the rear brake on my Twenty, but I've decided that the crappy caliper is OK, because I don't really care about rear brakes.
It basically feels like a brake. It needs breaking in for a few miles, though.
The Citi Bike bikes came with Shimano drum brakes in model 1. Now model 2 has SA hubs. The Shimano requires too much hand strength. I have big strong hands, and even I thought it was inappropriate for a bike model intended for everyone. The SA hubs stop really really easily, and of course, they don't care about weather.
I was wondering what I would do about the rear brake on my Twenty, but I've decided that the crappy caliper is OK, because I don't really care about rear brakes.
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I have drum brakes on two of my bikes, and I'm a big fan! One is my ANT that I built up with inspiration from my '37 Raleigh Tourist (the bike rides somewhere halfway between a Sports and a Tourist, but with a more modern-feeling front end), and the other is my franken-5-speed that I use primarily as a wet/winter-weather beater. The ANT has the 70mm versions, and the frankenbike (I think it's maybe a Fuji a frame) has the 90mm hubs. They both have 700C wheels, though.











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Does this count? It's looking a little sorry for itself at the minute but i'm working on it...





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