For the love of English 3 speeds...
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Those shifter covers look really nice. Where did you get alcohol based paint? Just a craft store? I was gonna suggest a paint pen - Blick Art Supply has them with different sized tips, etc.
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I just used Sharpie permanent markers. You just go over the area then wipe it off the top surface with the alcohol dampened rag. That fills in all the tiny places.
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This is so timely! I will be taking an old shifter apart to replace the spring. Need to see all the info I can about rebuilding one. I know I am in for a fight from what I have read!
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On reflection, this hub has never worked properly. It's stamped '71 and I'm pretty sure it came off an old CCM Galaxie years ago. I kept it because the rim was clean and the wheel was true.
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The loose pin holding the sun gear appears to have been this way for a long time and I can imagine the effect could be to distort the axle over time.
It was a frustrating day spent figuring it out but at least I learned how to service a hub properly....
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The loose pin holding the sun gear appears to have been this way for a long time and I can imagine the effect could be to distort the axle over time.
It was a frustrating day spent figuring it out but at least I learned how to service a hub properly....
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Great to see you at the show.
glad you could finally get into the guts of the AW hub. THE MOST IMPORTANT adjustment is the play in the axle jam nut..1/4 to 5/8 turn after seating it.
You will find how that tiny amount of looseness effects how it shifts up and down. So try it. Set the loosness to minimum, then go ride ten mins feeling how it shifts. loosen it to midrange in the setting, and ride again, noting how there is a subtle change, then go back and adjust the cones to max, and go for a quick spin.
You should notice and determine a preference as to how loose the cone adjustment is.
I prefer mine just a tickle on the snug side, closer to min 1/3 turn off bearing seat.
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This is after I neutralised it in bicarb water.
Big Chief thanks heaps for the advise! I did try the 'paint and wipe' method but as you said, the paint just wiped right out. The only other advise I'd read was to let the paint dry and then sand the paint off the raised parts of the headbadge. But mine is old and worn already so I didn't want to put it through that and lose more material. Sharpies, cool! ...and easy!
Also BC - nice green on your new ride...it looks far more green than the usual 'bronze' green.
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Did a driving trip to SC for the eclipse and checked CL after getting home for the locales I'd passed through. This is in Winston-Salem NC. That's a twist shifter for an old Sturmey. Pretty bike.
https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/...248023147.html
"RARE FIND" OLDER ARMSTRONG "WOMEN'S" BICYCLE CIRCA 1950's "REDUCED" - $275 (Advance)

condition: good
Older Armstrong "WOMEN'S" Bicycle
Circa 1950's
Good Condition, Everything Works
CALLS ONLY show contact info ****NO TEXTS PLEASE****
Price WAS $350.00, NOW $275.00
https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/...248023147.html
"RARE FIND" OLDER ARMSTRONG "WOMEN'S" BICYCLE CIRCA 1950's "REDUCED" - $275 (Advance)

condition: good
Older Armstrong "WOMEN'S" Bicycle
Circa 1950's
Good Condition, Everything Works
CALLS ONLY show contact info ****NO TEXTS PLEASE****
Price WAS $350.00, NOW $275.00
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And here's a pretty one in Raleigh. Never heard of Marfield.
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/d...258637442.html
VINTAGE MARFIELD 3 SPEED - $100 (RALEIGH)

in great condition.made in england.rides great.19in frame.26in tires.cash and carry.if nterested please call or text bob at show contact info thanks.
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/d...258637442.html
VINTAGE MARFIELD 3 SPEED - $100 (RALEIGH)
in great condition.made in england.rides great.19in frame.26in tires.cash and carry.if nterested please call or text bob at show contact info thanks.
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Another Raleigh made label I never heard of. A google search turned up that it was sold through Marshal Fields. A department store out of Chicago.
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This is after I neutralised it in bicarb water.
Big Chief thanks heaps for the advise! I did try the 'paint and wipe' method but as you said, the paint just wiped right out. The only other advise I'd read was to let the paint dry and then sand the paint off the raised parts of the headbadge. But mine is old and worn already so I didn't want to put it through that and lose more material. Sharpies, cool! ...and easy!
Also BC - nice green on your new ride...it looks far more green than the usual 'bronze' green.
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2017...nze-green.html
Apparently, even if the catalogs only mentioned bronze green, there were variations.
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"The gears on the AB hub are the same as the AW; it uses a larger shell to accommodate the brake (I believe same dimensions as the AG Dynohub shell). The left cone is different, to accommodate the shell."
I just came across this on page 420something and it made me wonder if S5 innards could be swapped with the AB guts if the left cone from the AB is used. I've swapped S5 innards into an AW shell, so can't see why this wouldn't work. Has anyone tried this?
I'm curious too.
I've also put S5 internals into the AW shell, but haven't tried it with the AB.
"The gears on the AB hub are the same as the AW; it uses a larger shell to accommodate the brake (I believe same dimensions as the AG Dynohub shell). The left cone is different, to accommodate the shell."
I just came across this on page 420something and it made me wonder if S5 innards could be swapped with the AB guts if the left cone from the AB is used. I've swapped S5 innards into an AW shell, so can't see why this wouldn't work. Has anyone tried this?
I've also put S5 internals into the AW shell, but haven't tried it with the AB.
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Angelo I looked at the parts lists & diagrams for both - the planet cage on the AB looks smaller than the S5 planet cage. So I don't think it will work 
I have an S5 that is currently out of its shell. I'll leave it that way and compare it with the AB hub from my DL-1 that I want to open and clean. Stay tuned, hopefully within the next week or so I'll post my findings. An AB5 would be a perfect hub for a roadster
IMG20170823181013 by arty dave armour, on Flickr
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In the 1st image I'd already put some black sharpie on the headbadge. I like the result - it's what I was hoping for; a bit more colour & still a bit worn looking. Had to go over it a few times as I'd accidentally wipe out the colour I'd already put in :i I guess you could mask off one colour while doing the other.

I have an S5 that is currently out of its shell. I'll leave it that way and compare it with the AB hub from my DL-1 that I want to open and clean. Stay tuned, hopefully within the next week or so I'll post my findings. An AB5 would be a perfect hub for a roadster



In the 1st image I'd already put some black sharpie on the headbadge. I like the result - it's what I was hoping for; a bit more colour & still a bit worn looking. Had to go over it a few times as I'd accidentally wipe out the colour I'd already put in :i I guess you could mask off one colour while doing the other.
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Angelo I looked at the parts lists & diagrams for both - the planet cage on the AB looks smaller than the S5 planet cage. So I don't think it will work 
I have an S5 that is currently out of its shell. I'll leave it that way and compare it with the AB hub from my DL-1 that I want to open and clean. Stay tuned, hopefully within the next week or so I'll post my findings. An AB5 would be a perfect hub for a roadster
IMG20170823181013 by arty dave armour, on Flickr
IMG20170823190652 by arty dave armour, on Flickr
In the 1st image I'd already put some black sharpie on the headbadge. I like the result - it's what I was hoping for; a bit more colour & still a bit worn looking. Had to go over it a few times as I'd accidentally wipe out the colour I'd already put in :i I guess you could mask off one colour while doing the other.

I have an S5 that is currently out of its shell. I'll leave it that way and compare it with the AB hub from my DL-1 that I want to open and clean. Stay tuned, hopefully within the next week or so I'll post my findings. An AB5 would be a perfect hub for a roadster



In the 1st image I'd already put some black sharpie on the headbadge. I like the result - it's what I was hoping for; a bit more colour & still a bit worn looking. Had to go over it a few times as I'd accidentally wipe out the colour I'd already put in :i I guess you could mask off one colour while doing the other.
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Hi gster!
Great to see you at the show.
glad you could finally get into the guts of the AW hub. THE MOST IMPORTANT adjustment is the play in the axle jam nut..1/4 to 5/8 turn after seating it.
You will find how that tiny amount of looseness effects how it shifts up and down. So try it. Set the loosness to minimum, then go ride ten mins feeling how it shifts. loosen it to midrange in the setting, and ride again, noting how there is a subtle change, then go back and adjust the cones to max, and go for a quick spin.
You should notice and determine a preference as to how loose the cone adjustment is.
I prefer mine just a tickle on the snug side, closer to min 1/3 turn off bearing seat.
Great to see you at the show.
glad you could finally get into the guts of the AW hub. THE MOST IMPORTANT adjustment is the play in the axle jam nut..1/4 to 5/8 turn after seating it.
You will find how that tiny amount of looseness effects how it shifts up and down. So try it. Set the loosness to minimum, then go ride ten mins feeling how it shifts. loosen it to midrange in the setting, and ride again, noting how there is a subtle change, then go back and adjust the cones to max, and go for a quick spin.
You should notice and determine a preference as to how loose the cone adjustment is.
I prefer mine just a tickle on the snug side, closer to min 1/3 turn off bearing seat.
It was a great show and (as usual) the weather was perfect.
I'm pretty good with adjusting the hub and now that I've spent an entire day messing around with that other hub, I now know what to look for inside.
Here's an interesting bike for sale.
A Raleigh built and re-branded British Supreme 3 speed.
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Got these" old pieces of junk" from my friends dark dusty bins at the LBS. now to figure out if I rebuild or try to repair the one that is pushed in, restricting the spring.
The other is a replacement for my Bluemmel pump nossile.
The other is a replacement for my Bluemmel pump nossile.
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@BigChief, bravo on the shifter renovation!
@thumpism, did you buy that bike? Those twist shifters are notoriously bad. I had one, and it was bad for me, too.
@thumpism, did you buy that bike? Those twist shifters are notoriously bad. I had one, and it was bad for me, too.
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[MENTION=398265]@thumpism, did you buy that bike? Those twist shifters are notoriously bad. I had one, and it was bad for me, too.
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What a great find!!! Those will turn out beautiful. Couldn't seem to get PM working. I use a 1/16" punch
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Still trying to narrow the year on my bike project. Probably a Dawn Tourist serial # 69722. During my hours of google searching I found an image of tube brackets which I can not find now. But, on this bike, on my top tube at the seat tube the bracket is plain like a copper plumbing coupler, at the head tube the top tube bracket has a design feature. [is it called a birds mouth] I find this, plan on one end and design on the other end of the top tube in the 1950, 1951 and 1952 models. Any thoughts?
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The Bike that Started it All
This 1978 Canadian built Raleigh Superbe was the first 3 speed I bought and started my interest in these machines.
Purchased from a guy up the street seven years ago, this is my everyday work bike and gets the most use. It also gets the most attention. last year all the bearings were re-packed and new cables installed in the original ribbed housings.
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Yesterday, I installed a 22T cog and a new chain. We'll see that works out.
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In fact, after buying another English built Superbe in much better condition, I foolishly sold this one. Luckily the buyer had second thoughts (i.e. he didn't have any money) and the bike came back to me.
Purchased from a guy up the street seven years ago, this is my everyday work bike and gets the most use. It also gets the most attention. last year all the bearings were re-packed and new cables installed in the original ribbed housings.
P1190216.jpg
Yesterday, I installed a 22T cog and a new chain. We'll see that works out.
P1190216.jpg
In fact, after buying another English built Superbe in much better condition, I foolishly sold this one. Luckily the buyer had second thoughts (i.e. he didn't have any money) and the bike came back to me.
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This 1978 Canadian built Raleigh Superbe was the first 3 speed I bought and started my interest in these machines.
Purchased from a guy up the street seven years ago, this is my everyday work bike and gets the most use. It also gets the most attention. last year all the bearings were re-packed and new cables installed in the original ribbed housings.
Attachment 577681
Yesterday, I installed a 22T cog and a new chain. We'll see that works out.
Attachment 577681
In fact, after buying another English built Superbe in much better condition, I foolishly sold this one. Luckily the buyer had second thoughts (i.e. he didn't have any money) and the bike came back to me.
Purchased from a guy up the street seven years ago, this is my everyday work bike and gets the most use. It also gets the most attention. last year all the bearings were re-packed and new cables installed in the original ribbed housings.
Attachment 577681
Yesterday, I installed a 22T cog and a new chain. We'll see that works out.
Attachment 577681
In fact, after buying another English built Superbe in much better condition, I foolishly sold this one. Luckily the buyer had second thoughts (i.e. he didn't have any money) and the bike came back to me.
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I was in the COOP for a totally unrelated reason and just happened upon this unmarked chrome steel stem while perusing the bins. It just spoke "English three speed" to me. Would this be correct?



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Still trying to narrow the year on my bike project. Probably a Dawn Tourist serial # 69722. During my hours of google searching I found an image of tube brackets which I can not find now. But, on this bike, on my top tube at the seat tube the bracket is plain like a copper plumbing coupler, at the head tube the top tube bracket has a design feature. [is it called a birds mouth] I find this, plan on one end and design on the other end of the top tube in the 1950, 1951 and 1952 models. Any thoughts?
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