Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

For the love of English 3 speeds...

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

For the love of English 3 speeds...

Old 10-22-17, 07:32 PM
  #14376  
gster
Senior Member
 
gster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,557

Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 403 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Out this early evening for a coffee stop. Up to #8 on pedal tried to find a knee friendly set.
Sweet Daddy Siki!!!
gster is offline  
Old 10-22-17, 08:45 PM
  #14377  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
We've got some hot looking scorchers going here! Well, technically I suppose gster is correct in calling ours semi-scorchers with our upright northroads. I have a kickstand on mine also. But still, the spirit is alive!
__________________
Inflate Hard
BigChief is offline  
Old 10-22-17, 09:29 PM
  #14378  
johnnyspaghetti
Senior Member
 
johnnyspaghetti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Pigseye
Posts: 577

Bikes: Raleigh Sports

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 202 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
This 1970-72? looks good in the boston area listed at $40 guys.

https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bo...323706834.html

#3.jpg

Last edited by johnnyspaghetti; 10-23-17 at 12:58 AM.
johnnyspaghetti is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 05:12 AM
  #14379  
thumpism
Bikes are okay, I guess.
 
thumpism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 8,988

Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT

Mentioned: 67 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2606 Post(s)
Liked 2,288 Times in 1,476 Posts
Probably. My coffee 23" '74 has the self-adjusting brake levers.
Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti
This 1970-72? looks good in the boston area listed at $40 guys.

https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bo...323706834.html

Attachment 585525
thumpism is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 05:50 AM
  #14380  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
Originally Posted by thumpism
Probably. My coffee 23" '74 has the self-adjusting brake levers.
I like this one. Hard to see in the photo, but I think this color may be burgundy. I'd go for this one if I was closer. Nice bike. Pre 73 I think. Pretty sure I see a fender hanger under the rear brake. They changed to through tabs like the front fender by 73.
__________________
Inflate Hard

Last edited by BigChief; 10-23-17 at 05:58 AM.
BigChief is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 06:31 AM
  #14381  
gster
Senior Member
 
gster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,557

Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 403 Times in 278 Posts
I think that this bike really stands out. A Scorcher needs that extended reach stem to be complete.
image.jpg
Good work 3speedslow!
gster is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 06:32 AM
  #14382  
plympton
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
does anyone want me to get it and hold it for them?
plympton is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 06:34 AM
  #14383  
gster
Senior Member
 
gster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,557

Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 403 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
I did see that explanation, but I would probably go crazy trying that. Just installing pawl springs is annoying enough.
Yes.....crazy.
gster is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 07:35 AM
  #14384  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
Originally Posted by plympton
does anyone want me to get it and hold it for them?
Thanks, that's very kind of you to offer, but no. This time of year I'm way too busy to travel anywhere. I'm lucky if I have time to squeeze in my short bike rides. Weather was perfect yesterday. It took all of my effort to turn around and come back for chores.
Keep those pictures coming. I love that project you're working on.
I have to edit this. If I find a 23" pre 55 gents in bad enough condition, they'll have to get along without me while I go get it. Everybody has their limit!
__________________
Inflate Hard

Last edited by BigChief; 10-23-17 at 07:46 AM.
BigChief is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 08:33 AM
  #14385  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,771
Mentioned: 460 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3602 Post(s)
Liked 5,842 Times in 2,350 Posts
Originally Posted by BigChief
I have to edit this. If I find a 23" pre 55 gents in bad enough condition, they'll have to get along without me while I go get it. Everybody has their limit!
I don't think this is quite what you had in mind, but . . .
nlerner is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 09:24 AM
  #14386  
thumpism
Bikes are okay, I guess.
 
thumpism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 8,988

Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT

Mentioned: 67 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2606 Post(s)
Liked 2,288 Times in 1,476 Posts
Originally Posted by BigChief
I like this one. Hard to see in the photo, but I think this color may be burgundy. I'd go for this one if I was closer. Nice bike. Pre 73 I think. Pretty sure I see a fender hanger under the rear brake. They changed to through tabs like the front fender by 73.
Not only the fender, but mine has top tube cable stops and exposed brake cable run while this one looks like it has clips and housing all the way, plus mine is 36F/36R while this one looks like 36F/40R.
thumpism is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 09:59 AM
  #14387  
adventurepdx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 1,008
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 151 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 38 Posts
1956 Raleigh Sports

This 1956 Raleigh Sports came up on Portland Craigslist. Not a bad price, in good shape, and Dynohub!
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...354166375.html
Somebody get this!


1956 Raleigh women's Sport - $240 (Hillsdale)
1956 Raleigh Sport in great condition. Almost all original. 21"
adventurepdx is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 11:36 AM
  #14388  
3speedslow
Senior Member
 
3speedslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 9,287

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 117 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1920 Post(s)
Liked 971 Times in 598 Posts
Thanks @gster

I use a kickstand, full disclosure!

My Raleigh is a 73 and uses a wrap around mudguard attachment.

Trying another pedal set so I can add miles to my trips without hurting the knee
3speedslow is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 12:58 PM
  #14389  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner
I don't think this is quite what you had in mind, but . . .
Wow! thanks. That is what I'm looking for. Funny thing. I just bought an early stem, brake levers and bars that turned out to be much older than I thought. Must be in the stars. You wouldn't happen to know if that rear dropout is correct for that period would you? I'm not as familiar with pre war Raleighs as I should be if I'm to do a project like this.
edit: had to go back to the 1935 catalog to find it. This frame requires different fenders. They would be just about impossible to find.
__________________
Inflate Hard

Last edited by BigChief; 10-23-17 at 01:33 PM.
BigChief is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 02:48 PM
  #14390  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,771
Mentioned: 460 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3602 Post(s)
Liked 5,842 Times in 2,350 Posts
Originally Posted by BigChief
Wow! thanks. That is what I'm looking for. Funny thing. I just bought an early stem, brake levers and bars that turned out to be much older than I thought. Must be in the stars. You wouldn't happen to know if that rear dropout is correct for that period would you? I'm not as familiar with pre war Raleighs as I should be if I'm to do a project like this.
edit: had to go back to the 1935 catalog to find it. This frame requires different fenders. They would be just about impossible to find.
Yeah, doing a faithful recreation of a 1935 bike would be challenging. I had this one built up with mostly 70s Sports components, including fenders, an EA1 wheelset w/ a rear coaster brake (1980s Araya rims came in this size for some ill-fated Japanese venture), and Soma faux Lauterwasser bars:



I also created some faux-1930s Sports fenders for one of the cheap-o BF competitions:



This is what I was trying to achieve with that build (from the 1936 catalog):



That rear reflector is the challenge!
nlerner is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 03:16 PM
  #14391  
gster
Senior Member
 
gster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,557

Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 403 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner
Yeah, doing a faithful recreation of a 1935 bike would be challenging. I had this one built up with mostly 70s Sports components, including fenders, an EA1 wheelset w/ a rear coaster brake (1980s Araya rims came in this size for some ill-fated Japanese venture), and Soma faux Lauterwasser bars:



I also created some faux-1930s Sports fenders for one of the cheap-o BF competitions:



This is what I was trying to achieve with that build (from the 1936 catalog):



That rear reflector is the challenge!
I think you've achieved your goal with the top bike.
Nice lines.
gster is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 03:44 PM
  #14392  
Salubrious
Senior Member
 
Salubrious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,573

Bikes: Too many 3-speeds, Jones Plus LWB

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 214 Times in 99 Posts
The crank and pedals are a bit of a give away.
Salubrious is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 04:14 PM
  #14393  
plympton
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well there is a reason to take apart and rebuild a 68 year old SA Hub. Took the whole thing apart, soaked all the components over night, cleaned and reassembled today. That is to say wanted to reassemble today. Easy project and not as hard as it looks, but, one of the planet pinions has a broken tooth. So now a need a new one. Do I look for one or buy four? And I need an authentic 1949ish indicator 5 3/4 axle. Where do you think I might get that? I have various kinds of auto and boat grease. I even have 1950's grease. What do yous guys use in your hub rebuilds? 1023171804-00.jpg
plympton is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 04:40 PM
  #14394  
plympton
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I know that you love these bike. a 1930's Sports on craigslist
https://images.craigslist.org/00505_...K_1200x900.jpg
plympton is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 05:38 PM
  #14395  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
I've been using marine grease on the wheel bearings and just a light coating of whatever automotive oil I have on hand for everything else. My oldest hub is a Jan 1955. Splined driver type. It uses the same 5 3/4" axle as all my other Raleigh Sports type bikes.
__________________
Inflate Hard
BigChief is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 08:50 PM
  #14396  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 40,328

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 502 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7092 Post(s)
Liked 2,006 Times in 1,191 Posts
@plympton, any grease is fine. Really.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 10-23-17, 09:30 PM
  #14397  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
Originally Posted by plympton
I know that you love these bike. a 1930's Sports on craigslist
https://images.craigslist.org/00505_...K_1200x900.jpg
Another pre war Raleigh. Interesting bike. I don't have the knowledge to do these bikes justice. But I feel the tide changing. My early 50s junker will show up any time now.
__________________
Inflate Hard
BigChief is offline  
Old 10-24-17, 03:21 AM
  #14398  
gster
Senior Member
 
gster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,557

Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 403 Times in 278 Posts
Raleigh Brake Cables

Has anyone come up with an elegant fix for adapting new brake cables to work with the old style calipers?
I've seen some rough solutions with a small nut and bolt but nothing that looks clean.
Those proprietary NOS cables are in short supply and often very expensive.
00505_irDoi8UI71K_1200x900.jpg

DSC05246.jpg
I've been swapping out the old calipers for the newer versions but would like to maintain originality where possible.

Last edited by gster; 10-24-17 at 03:36 AM.
gster is offline  
Old 10-24-17, 04:56 AM
  #14399  
gster
Senior Member
 
gster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,557

Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1024 Post(s)
Liked 403 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by gster
Has anyone come up with an elegant fix for adapting new brake cables to work with the old style calipers?
I've seen some rough solutions with a small nut and bolt but nothing that looks clean.
Those proprietary NOS cables are in short supply and often very expensive.
Attachment 585688

Attachment 585690
I've been swapping out the old calipers for the newer versions but would like to maintain originality where possible.
I think I've answered my own question with these things...
Cable Knarps.
knarps.jpg
gster is offline  
Old 10-24-17, 05:37 AM
  #14400  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 98 Times in 82 Posts
Sometimes, especially on newer cables, the ends are cast onto the cable, but sometimes they are steel and brazed on. If you have a bad frayed cable like this you have nothing to loose by heating the end with a torch and seeing if it melts or can be pulled off the cable. So even if you use a knarp, hang on to the old cable since you may be able to silver braze it someday if you're up to going through the extra trouble.
__________________
Inflate Hard
BigChief is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.