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Old 10-27-17, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti
A flag holder. Thank you for that I was wondering. The pic off Billybones FLKR is the same but has the nicer grips. I did see a double chrome band in front of the left rt brake lever for the shift trigger. I need to hear back from this guy.

This one posted a couple mile for the house, looks like repaint not that familiar with this version.

Pretty sure this is an Eastman from India.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
Pretty sure this is an Eastman from India.
I actually had one of these to fix & sell for a friend. It was a single gear and didn't have the double bar. It was a nice laid back rider but some noticeably frugal qualities but had a comfortable feeling to its riding manners. Very nice orange glossy paint double pin striping almost scratch free. It was a Hercules badge on the front and did indicate India manufacture. All I had to do was cut the ring lock off the rear (grind down the rivets) and it came apart. A very common bike across the pond looking into info. Sold for $80 although very unique around here with the full chainguard. & rod brakes. It looks to be a DL1 replica.

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That looks non-English, more likely Indian or the like.
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My beat up roadster didn't have grips when I bought it. It was early 70s and would have had the typical black Dare grips, so I bought a pair of inexpensive Dare style grips from somebody on eBay. Now, the picture didn't show it, but when you get them they have TAIWAN emblazoned across the top. Funny how little details can bug me. I've got nothing against Taiwan, but it just didn't belong on my classic British roadster so I found somebody selling Dare style grips that he claimed to be OE on Pashley roadsters. When they came I was surprised to find they were a soft rubber. A bit floppy, but they went on easily with some dish soap. Now, I'm totally hooked on these and they're no longer available on eBay. I like them better than cork. Far better than hard plastic or leather. I found the manufacturer and they make soft and hard versions of the grip. These soft ones are just perfect. I want some for my scorcher, but I can't find anybody retailing these anywhere.
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Pre-War Phillips ?

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Not sure what to make of this one.
Advertised as a pre-war English Phillips.
The bike has been converted to a fixie (why bother) and the original
28" rims are included in the price of $300.
I don't recall any British hump back frames except a few Raleigh kid's bikes in the 60's.

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I've seen butcher bikes having frames shaped like that, never figured out what it was actually for though. I guess to fit smaller riders?
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It would appear that the dealers in Greece had different advertising standards...

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Originally Posted by gster
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Not sure what to make of this one.
Advertised as a pre-war English Phillips.
The bike has been converted to a fixie (why bother) and the original
28" rims are included in the price of $300.
I don't recall any British hump back frames except a few Raleigh kid's bikes in the 60's.
Perhaps the bike started out as one of these....
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Originally Posted by gster
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Not sure what to make of this one.
Advertised as a pre-war English Phillips.
The bike has been converted to a fixie (why bother) and the original
28" rims are included in the price of $300.
I don't recall any British hump back frames except a few Raleigh kid's bikes in the 60's.
300 bucks is a just a tad on the optimistic side, but I do have to admire this persons sense of style.
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England made Western Flyer for $30 in northeastern Maryland.https://delaware.craigslist.org/bik/...363523456.html
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Camelback frames were definitely available around WWII but the starburst decals on the headtubes were usually indicative of 50's/60's. Might never know.

Here's a 20's US made Columbia roadster.
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Hey all just wanted to chime in and let ya know I'm still around. Been busy with a new job bit now I got 4 days off and I'll get cracking (plus the rain here has been crazy) hope everyone is well!
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I don't have a clue what the year of this bike is. The chain cover I'v seen on 50's, correct me if I'm wrong. I see an oiler port on the BB. Its in real nice shape and wonder if it could have a AW hub? I know the Minneapolis liciense this style is 60's
Its listed @$145 but a guy can try to insult him with a lowball bid.
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I have a montgomery-ward hawthorne that is almost identical to that, that came with a sturmey AW from '63
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Maybe it is a trick of lighting, but the rear hub shell appears to be aluminum.
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Originally Posted by dweenk
Maybe it is a trick of lighting, but the rear hub shll appears to be aluminum.
If it is aluminum, it should be stamped "ALLOY" on the hub shell:



Otherwise, a magnet will serve to identify a steel shell.
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This looks interesting.
1954 Churchill/Hercules English 3 speed bicycle (womens) - $90


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Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti
It looks to be a DL1 replica.
The brakes have me thinking it may be closer to Phillips than Raleigh
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It's a Birmingham Hercules, see the oval cutouts in the lugs? Nice little ride. Bargain at $90.
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It's a Birmingham Hercules, see the oval cutouts in the lugs? Nice little ride. Bargain at $90.
This one clicked with me. It's 200 miles south, most of a tank of fuel & 7 or so hours away round trip.
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Well, if it's a scenic drive with a great french cafe at the end and gas is cheap, don't let me stop you. It's a 21" frame with 26 inch wheels.
It's a cool colour and in unusually good condition. I'd buy that one in a 50 km range.
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Originally Posted by gster
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Not sure what to make of this one.
Advertised as a pre-war English Phillips.
The bike has been converted to a fixie (why bother) and the original
28" rims are included in the price of $300.
I don't recall any British hump back frames except a few Raleigh kid's bikes in the 60's.
Seller is slowly dropping his price on this one. Current ask is $220 (CDN)
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Originally Posted by gster
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Not sure what to make of this one.
Advertised as a pre-war English Phillips.
The bike has been converted to a fixie (why bother) and the original
28" rims are included in the price of $300.
I don't recall any British hump back frames except a few Raleigh kid's bikes in the 60's.
I have a Raleigh Sports camel back, so they are out there. It is a project currently on a back burner (way back).
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