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Finally! I haven't seen a Sports in that color since the one I owned back in 1973. Thank you. I was beginning to think it was a flashback from all the acid, and not grounded in reality.
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Get some decent spokes... DT or Wheelsmith double butted will make for a nicer wheel and order up spoke washers (nominal cost) for the rear as the SA steel flange is thinner than a modern alloy flange and this will also make for a better wheel build.
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A grey color one?
I see an ad on my local market and it's a grey color Raleigh. I've never seen one in grey and just curious is that a custom paint by someone or it's the original color?

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I have a silver step-through Sports that I'm working on right now. from '78

The paint isn't very durable, or at least not this example. Looks like it was poorly done with over-spray on the headtube all over the lugs and the silver-gray is runny and milky-see-through on the rear triangle something horrible. Perhaps the paint quality at the Nottingham factory was really suffering by that later date.
The paint isn't very durable, or at least not this example. Looks like it was poorly done with over-spray on the headtube all over the lugs and the silver-gray is runny and milky-see-through on the rear triangle something horrible. Perhaps the paint quality at the Nottingham factory was really suffering by that later date.
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#1432
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Are you riding the DL1 this year? My wife and I will be there.
A friend has a grey one. It's a mid '70s model. He'll be at Lake Pepin, too.
I fixed up a late '70s silver Sports for one of my wife's friends. The paint was awful, with several areas peeling. The silver seems to be especially bad, but the paint quality on the late '70s little blue Sports I got from Khatful is pretty bad, too.
I have a silver step-through Sports that I'm working on right now. from '78
The paint isn't very durable, or at least not this example. Looks like it was poorly done with over-spray on the headtube all over the lugs and the silver-gray is runny and milky-see-through on the rear triangle something horrible. Perhaps the paint quality at the Nottingham factory was really suffering by that later date.
The paint isn't very durable, or at least not this example. Looks like it was poorly done with over-spray on the headtube all over the lugs and the silver-gray is runny and milky-see-through on the rear triangle something horrible. Perhaps the paint quality at the Nottingham factory was really suffering by that later date.
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The frame isn't very well built either. It's straight and doesn't seem to have been in a crash but the lugs seem to have been beat on pretty bad when it was put together like the guy who was building it was having a very bad day after a rough night out drinking. It looks like he beat on it with a rubber hammer and this is below the paint so I'm pretty sure it happened on assembly. Nothing that your average person would notice unless they were looking for it and I'm sure it'll still be a fine bike for whoever ends up with it -just that the quality control at the end times for Nottingham must have been a bit spotty and stuff like this was more common and was allowed to pass out the door.
It must have been a sad time indeed for a once-proud company which used to be on top of the world building higher-end bikes.
It must have been a sad time indeed for a once-proud company which used to be on top of the world building higher-end bikes.
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Yes, I think 1975 through 1978 was the worst period of workmanship from Raleigh. Those dates are approximate. Someone else can fine-tune them. Sturmey Archer was also down in those years, though not nearly as bad.
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In some respects those 70's Raleighs got better when they started using Suntour drive parts in 76-77.
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They worked fine and rode fine. I'm talking about the brazing workmanship, with all the gaps and blobs. My 1971 Super Course is clean, so the bad period seems to have come later. Aaron has a Raleigh International with a fender eyelet on one rear dropout and nothing on the other dropout. D'oh!
And I agree that Japanese parts which came in 1976 were an improvement.
And I agree that Japanese parts which came in 1976 were an improvement.
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They worked fine and rode fine. I'm talking about the brazing workmanship, with all the gaps and blobs. My 1971 Super Course is clean, so the bad period seems to have come later. Aaron has a Raleigh International with a fender eyelet on one rear dropout and nothing on the other dropout. D'oh!
And I agree that Japanese parts which came in 1976 were an improvement.
And I agree that Japanese parts which came in 1976 were an improvement.

Seems to have affected the higher end models rather than the lower end ones... and on 20's.
Take a look at the welds on your bottom bracket and you will know what I mean... the British models seem to have been finished a little better than the export models.
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Are you riding the DL1 this year? My wife and I will be there.
A friend has a grey one. It's a mid '70s model. He'll be at Lake Pepin, too.
I fixed up a late '70s silver Sports for one of my wife's friends. The paint was awful, with several areas peeling. The silver seems to be especially bad, but the paint quality on the late '70s little blue Sports I got from Khatful is pretty bad, too.
A friend has a grey one. It's a mid '70s model. He'll be at Lake Pepin, too.
I fixed up a late '70s silver Sports for one of my wife's friends. The paint was awful, with several areas peeling. The silver seems to be especially bad, but the paint quality on the late '70s little blue Sports I got from Khatful is pretty bad, too.
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What did you use for the cranks and spindle? Was it hard to find something that fit?
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#1443
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Is the rear rack original? If not what kind is it. It looks good.
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On the original Raleigh Sprort, the saddle bag has a leather patch with the two slots, located on the bottom of the bag. What is it forr?
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A third strap, much like the two that secure it to the seat loops, goes through that and around the seat post. Keeps the whole thing from flopping around. You can do without (but I don't).
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Unfortunately I'm going to have to part with it. There's no Sports in my future. A 23" is just too small.


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Here's mine. 1973 Sports in Ivory Glaze. The women's frame was available in this color for a few years, I believe. As was the 21" men's model. However, I think the 23" model was only available in this color in 1973, making it somewhat rare (as much as the ubiquitous Sports can be, I suppose).
Unfortunately I'm going to have to part with it. There's no Sports in my future. A 23" is just too small.
Unfortunately I'm going to have to part with it. There's no Sports in my future. A 23" is just too small.

That is a pretty bike... have never seen one in that colour in the wild and I live in Raleigh rich territory.
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Yeah, a 24" DL-1 would do, but I'm not crazy about a 40+ lb bike with rod brakes. It's just not something I need (as if that's the criterion I use with any bike purchase). I will probably build an approximation around a sport-touring road frame at some point.
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My Rudge only weighed 38 pounds... a veritable lightweight.
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Here is a picture of the latest acquisition...
1973 Raleigh Colt step through for my bride, along with my 1972 Superbe.
Aaron
1973 Raleigh Colt step through for my bride, along with my 1972 Superbe.
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