paulb_in_bkln

In addition to everything else you got a fine and unusually dramatic, it being nighttime, bike photo. I like it a lot.

johnnyspaghetti

Some are just throwing these bikes away because the tires are flat. We need to find these bikes what ever over all condition.

paulb_in_bkln

Funny you should mention this.... Derelict, a few blocks from my house. BB axle cut through, no idea why. It wouldn’t be all that difficult to make this a good bike again, although maybe not valuable, even here in Brooklyn. There’s a way to snap a U-lock quietly with a 2x4; I know because it happened to me, but I don’t know the trick. As for unbolting the very useful bits and pieces, it’s not worth the possibility of being arrested. Makes me sad.

noglider 

We have a lot of these in my neighborhood (West Village).

dweenk 

For dark green Raleighs I have found that Rustoleum 7733 Hunter Green is a good match. It does not match the bronze green.

I have a step through Belgian Raleigh that was missing a chain guard. I found a white chain guard on the auction site and prepped and painted it. It turned out to be a damn close match - from 5 feet away you cannot tell that it is not original except for the lack of a decal.

johnnyspaghetti

That is a nice old sports.

johnnyspaghetti

I have to have a 60's DL1

BigChief 

I don't think Raleigh exported any of the 28" wheeled bikes to the US during the 60s. They don't show up in the US catalogs until 1970. The 22" gents frame doesn't appear until the 1978 catalog. They may have sent them to Canada, I don't know, but by far the most common DL-1 you'll find in the US these days are 1970s 24" frame gents. The 1970 DL-1 Tourist does still have the 1960s style transfers and the black cased rear reflector.

browngw 

Too bad shipping one of these tanks would cost a fortune. I have one I don't need but bought it for the enjoyment of bringing it back to life. Its a 1977 Canadian import model which has no chaincase. Likely taken off at purchase. I have one on my 1979 Canadian model but they are truly a pain. The story goes that the American model got the smaller hockey stick style to save weight for tariffs that Canada was not subject to. If I find a smaller chain guard, I think I would install it. The bike will be going to the Canadian Vintage Bicycle Show in late June if its not sold before.

gster

That's a nice bike...
I'd price it at $500.00 (in Toronto).

arty dave

Thanks, it was a total fluke, plus I had help from the sports field floodlights

I know I'm probably being greedy, but I'd like a 2nd DL-1. I'll keep looking but I think they're quite rare here (Australia). I'm going to look at a China Post roadster on Saturday, looks just like a 22" DL-1. Not sure what to expect, I've heard quality can vary...

BC I couldn't make it quite to the top before my knee was injured! Besides, you get to see a lot more when you're pushing the bike

BrownGW that should be an easy sale, looks to be in top condition. I remember you posting about the clean-up rebuild.

BigChief 

I'm fine with the hockey stick chainguards on DL-1s. Enclosed chaincases are classy but rear wheel removal plenty difficult enough without one.
I have two. I really don't need two, but selling one off just seems to keep getting put on the back burner. Wonder why.



73DL1a by Billy Bones, on Flickr

DL-1 Roadster by Billy Bones, on Flickr

gster

Although a visual copy, the Chinese (Flying Pigeons Etc.) are no match for the Raleigh.
They're heavy and cumbersome.
The metal can be soft.
Still, could be part of the fleet...

johnnyspaghetti

I want the laid back ride. Thats it.

SirMike1983 

A couple shots of a 1941 Schwinn New World 3-speed from this past weekend.

arty dave

Gster you have an Eastman roadster don't you? Do you think the Indian roadsters are better made or better metal than Chinese roadsters?
Maybe a little closer to a Raleigh? I briefly owned a 22" Burmese roadster but at the time couldn't keep it. It was a cool looking bike but yeah, no match for the Raleigh.

BigChief 

Those shark fin front fenders are just so cool. Really gave the bike a distinct look. Whoever decided to change to plain janes should have been run out of Chicago.

gster

Good memory!
I have an Eastman Roadster that I originally bought when I realised that I couldn't afford a Pashley Path Racer.
I bought it and modified it to replicate the Pashley.
I bought this before i got into the 3 speeds.
It looks good...
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Rod and lever brakes work as well as they can....
Geometry is very laid back with the front wheel way out front.
It doesn't get much use.
I also have an old (1957?) Flying Pigeon.
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This has drum brakes and is very heavy, no gears...
It doesn't see much use either.
It can only be ridden on level ground.
I still like them both and have had no issues with the quality of the materials used.
This Superbe was my first 3 Speed (since I was a kid) and it's still my everyday bike.
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arty dave

Yes that's right, the double top bars! I really like that frame with the 2 top bars close together. I didn't realise the bar ends dropped down. And that's why we all need 2 roadsters - 1 path racer 'scorcher', and 1 'full dress' roadster
That was the thing with the Burmese roadster too - no gears in a hilly area, and less knowledge at the time about bike tinkerings and internal gears.

Sir Mike what wheel size is the '41 Schwinn New World?

johnnyspaghetti

Flossing works well...although tiring.

johnnyspaghetti

Its a beautiful day. Dog gets a ride round lake as yesterday.

paulb_in_bkln

I didn't even know about Schwinn's filet brazed bikes when they were in production--just the standard heavyweight models, and the Paramounts. But reading the article on Sheldon's site, they seem like wonderful bikes and it seems a shame that Schwinn didn't highlight them. Could you post some closeups of the '41?

johnnyspaghetti

Maybe

SirMike1983 

That article is pretty good. It tends to focus on some of the later, "road" bikes from the 10-speed series, but the construction methods are described well. The pre-WWII New World is unique in that it was fillet brazed, but it was not Cro-Mo. They used a "drawn seamless" tubing on the pre-war New World.



The New World could come with a US-style one-piece crank, but also could be bought with three-piece cottered cranks. Schwinn was "modern" in its view of branding - that is to say, it put its name everywhere it could. Cranks were stamped "Schwinn" and the chainrings sometimes had the company's initials.





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I keep an eye out for reference pictures because I find the Schwinn experiment so interesting. They were trying to sell decent bikes to adults in the 1930s-40s in the US, when the "bike boom" was still a generation away. They couldn't compete with the automobile, especially after the war.

I found pictures of a bare New World frame on the internet, which show the brazing joints nicely:

SirMike1983 

Amen on that.