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The Lake Pepin 3-speed tour was a blast! After Maiden Rock, I took the Stockholm Bypass, which is actually a short cut (although there is a bit of climbing, but actually turned out to not be that hard). We bypassed Pepin as well, rejoining the route just as hiway 35 drops into the Chippewa River bottoms.
It was cool to see the 650b wheels on Jeff Bock's bike, and I saw one bike equipped with Weinmann alloy 650a rims. So maybe the CR18s are not the only game in town.
It was cool to see the 650b wheels on Jeff Bock's bike, and I saw one bike equipped with Weinmann alloy 650a rims. So maybe the CR18s are not the only game in town.
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The Lake Pepin 3-speed tour was a blast! After Maiden Rock, I took the Stockholm Bypass, which is actually a short cut (although there is a bit of climbing, but actually turned out to not be that hard). We bypassed Pepin as well, rejoining the route just as hiway 35 drops into the Chippewa River bottoms.
It was cool to see the 650b wheels on Jeff Bock's bike, and I saw one bike equipped with Weinmann alloy 650a rims. So maybe the CR18s are not the only game in town.
It was cool to see the 650b wheels on Jeff Bock's bike, and I saw one bike equipped with Weinmann alloy 650a rims. So maybe the CR18s are not the only game in town.
Weinmanns. SJS sells them and some others as well. 36 hole only.
Surfing Dutch sellers and found a number of steel and Al rims in the proper size, but all 36h. Dutch seem to have a lot of bikes with the 590mm rims.
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...addicted...
After reading a little in this thread it's tempting to join the fray... then something like this comes along... mint! I won't do it though. Maybe someday.
Bikes are okay, I guess.
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After reading a little in this thread it's tempting to join the fray... then something like this comes along... mint! I won't do it though. Maybe someday.

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Similar to the project I am about to undertake; a first-generation Super Course with a vintage Sturmey Archer AW drivetrain. I am trying to find a good match for the old bronze-green metallic paint right now. Otherwise I'll have to settle for a kind of Hunter or British Racing Green with Almond Creme panels. This bike will also get the bamboo compound curve fenders I bought from Woody's. Should look pretty exotic when I am done. This time I will take enough "before" photos so I can do a proper build thread.
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Similar to the project I am about to undertake; a first-generation Super Course with a vintage Sturmey Archer AW drivetrain. I am trying to find a good match for the old bronze-green metallic paint right now. Otherwise I'll have to settle for a kind of Hunter or British Racing Green with Almond Creme panels. This bike will also get the bamboo compound curve fenders I bought from Woody's. Should look pretty exotic when I am done. This time I will take enough "before" photos so I can do a proper build thread.
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Similar to the project I am about to undertake; a first-generation Super Course with a vintage Sturmey Archer AW drivetrain. I am trying to find a good match for the old bronze-green metallic paint right now. Otherwise I'll have to settle for a kind of Hunter or British Racing Green with Almond Creme panels. This bike will also get the bamboo compound curve fenders I bought from Woody's. Should look pretty exotic when I am done. This time I will take enough "before" photos so I can do a proper build thread.
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Speaking of which, there was an impeccable later model DL1 on this ride. Here's a shot of it at ye olde stone wall in Old Frontenac:

While we are on the subject of that iconic wall, here are a few more English classics lounging against the rocks:

I really like the looks of this old Hercules.

Here's a closeup of his "kit". As the day warmed up, the tweed came off, and where else can you stow it on a bicycle?

A matching his-n-hers pair of Raleighs. The lavender scarf is a nice touch...

Another "kit shot", this one on an old Phillips.
On Sunday afternoon, I rode with a couple from Iowa; Rick and Lisa Paulos. They were pedaling their Jack Taylor tandem at a respectable pace, and we settled into a mile-eating rhythm that took us on a couple of off-highway excursions. This dirt road was a welcome break from the mad traffic on Highway 61.

Here they are on another backroad, paralleling `61.

I'm getting near the end of my "roll of film", as it were. I'll go through them one more time tonight to see if I've left anything good out. For now, I'll leave you with this:

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Well, I can tell you that my experience with the Raysport Light Roadster build has been positive in all respects. Lightness is an attribute that really shines on long road rides, for obvious reasons. The tighter handling and ease of climbing make up for the slight loss of stability. Having said that, however, I don't think I'll be getting rid of my DL1 any time soon. On some days I just feel like sitting up straight and rolling down the road with dignity. It's almost like a one man parade; and I usually feel underdressed. Where does one get a tophat these days, anyway? 
Speaking of which, there was an impeccable later model DL1 on this ride. Here's a shot of it at ye olde stone wall in Old Frontenac:

While we are on the subject of that iconic wall, here are a few more English classics lounging against the rocks:

I really like the looks of this old Hercules.

Here's a closeup of his "kit". As the day warmed up, the tweed came off, and where else can you stow it on a bicycle?

A nice his-n-hers pair of Raleighs. The lavender scarf is a nice touch...

Another "kit shot", this one on an old Phillips.
On Sunday afternoon, I rode with a couple from Iowa; Rick and Lisa Paulos. They were pedaling their Jack Taylor tandem at a respectable pace, and we settled into a mile-eating rhythm that took us on a couple of off-highway excursions. This dirt road was a welcome break from the mad traffic on Highway 61.

Here they are on another backroad, paralleling `61.

I'm getting near the end of my "roll of film", as it were. I'll go through them one more time tonight to see if I've left anything good out. For now, I'll leave you with this:

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Speaking of which, there was an impeccable later model DL1 on this ride. Here's a shot of it at ye olde stone wall in Old Frontenac:

While we are on the subject of that iconic wall, here are a few more English classics lounging against the rocks:

I really like the looks of this old Hercules.

Here's a closeup of his "kit". As the day warmed up, the tweed came off, and where else can you stow it on a bicycle?

A nice his-n-hers pair of Raleighs. The lavender scarf is a nice touch...

Another "kit shot", this one on an old Phillips.
On Sunday afternoon, I rode with a couple from Iowa; Rick and Lisa Paulos. They were pedaling their Jack Taylor tandem at a respectable pace, and we settled into a mile-eating rhythm that took us on a couple of off-highway excursions. This dirt road was a welcome break from the mad traffic on Highway 61.

Here they are on another backroad, paralleling `61.

I'm getting near the end of my "roll of film", as it were. I'll go through them one more time tonight to see if I've left anything good out. For now, I'll leave you with this:

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... then something like this comes along...
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It's in the wrong thread... I'll put it in the "are you looking for one of these" Craigslist thread, and maybe someone from here will pick it up.
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Speaking of Raleigh SuperCourses retrofitted with IG hubs, I had my '73 SuperCourse out a couple of weekends ago on a group ride in CT. It's fitted with a 5-speed S-A hub (which @Velocivixen thoroughly overhauled for me) with a downtube shifter on the left side and a trigger shifter on the bars. Here it is trailing a couple of pretty fancy custom builds: the blue one is a Brian Chapman and the black one a MAP/Mitch Prior:

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@nlerner - Hey, so honestly, how did it perform? The hub I overhauled? It was a joy to see the innards of one of those! That photo with the rock wall backdrop is great. Reminds me of what I imagine old time England looks like.
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This one popped up but I am in Texas won't be back till Sat. What year model does this look to be?
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...588494460.html
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...588494460.html

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This one popped up but I am in Texas won't be back till Sat. What year model does this look to be?
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...588494460.html

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...588494460.html

Nice looking bike.
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Loose headset update.
I decided to try to shim the top head race - it was pretty loose and slid right out with no effort. I figured I'd try a thin aluminum shim, so I cut a strip from a Coke can. I had to press the race in (not too difficult) and it seemed to take the play out of the headset. No issues on my ride today, so we'll see if it hold up. Thanks for the help everyone. (Wow! That's a big picture!)
I decided to try to shim the top head race - it was pretty loose and slid right out with no effort. I figured I'd try a thin aluminum shim, so I cut a strip from a Coke can. I had to press the race in (not too difficult) and it seemed to take the play out of the headset. No issues on my ride today, so we'll see if it hold up. Thanks for the help everyone. (Wow! That's a big picture!)

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Loose headset update.
I decided to try to shim the top head race - it was pretty loose and slid right out with no effort. I figured I'd try a thin aluminum shim, so I cut a strip from a Coke can. I had to press the race in (not too difficult) and it seemed to take the play out of the headset. No issues on my ride today, so we'll see if it hold up. Thanks for the help everyone. (Wow! That's a big picture!)
I decided to try to shim the top head race - it was pretty loose and slid right out with no effort. I figured I'd try a thin aluminum shim, so I cut a strip from a Coke can. I had to press the race in (not too difficult) and it seemed to take the play out of the headset. No issues on my ride today, so we'll see if it hold up. Thanks for the help everyone. (Wow! That's a big picture!)
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BTW the Stockholm bypass is almost exactly the same length as the main route...
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Speaking of Raleigh SuperCourses retrofitted with IG hubs, I had my '73 SuperCourse out a couple of weekends ago on a group ride in CT. It's fitted with a 5-speed S-A hub (which @Velocivixen thoroughly overhauled for me) with a downtube shifter on the left side and a trigger shifter on the bars. Here it is trailing a couple of pretty fancy custom builds: the blue one is a Brian Chapman and the black one a MAP/Mitch Prior:

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Speaking of Raleigh SuperCourses retrofitted with IG hubs, I had my '73 SuperCourse out a couple of weekends ago on a group ride in CT. It's fitted with a 5-speed S-A hub (which @Velocivixen thoroughly overhauled for me) with a downtube shifter on the left side and a trigger shifter on the bars. Here it is trailing a couple of pretty fancy custom builds: the blue one is a Brian Chapman and the black one a MAP/Mitch Prior:

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And Yes! How did the S5 perform?
Ddeand - great fix with the shim! Simple and easy
Thanks all for posting images from the Lake Pepin tour. I'd like to do this sometime.
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Left side starts with a Simplex downtube lever:

Cable is then routed through the existing down-tube cable stop, and housing then goes to a clamp-on chain-stay stop:

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Drive side routing is pretty much standard along the top tube to a fulcrum stop and then to a cable pulley at the top of the seat tube:

Cockpit isn't too crowded:

The CT ride was fairly hilling and the hub had some difficulties in the low gear under load, but it was manageable.
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I see you used a Shimano bell crank. I always wondered if they could be made to work for the S5. How did you get it to hold on the Raleigh threaded axle?
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