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Old 03-05-19, 08:27 AM
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This is great. Super bikes showing up lately!! Love it. This one has the optional black paint with chromed fork like the RRA. Very cool. From the 1939 catalog (VCC Library)

Are those a different handlebar, or the usual (North Road?) flipped?
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^^ That’s a great one to have “ left “ ! I never could find a Brit bike around my stomp.
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I've never raced anything, but I'm still into motorcycles. Old Brits of course. I still have one left

I once owned one that was very similar to yours shown albeit, not quite as nice. I believe it was a 1967 or 68 Bonneville.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
I've never raced anything, but I'm still into motorcycles. Old Brits of course. I still have one left


A drum-braked Bonneville Very nice indeed!

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Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln
Are those a different handlebar, or the usual (North Road?) flipped?
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Originally Posted by Steve Bauserman
1936 Hetchins Brilliant with Sturmey Archer K hub, Resillion brakes, Chater Lea chain setbipedal, Brooks B17 saddle and Dunlop lightweight rims.
Steve for some reason I can't see any of your images, are you hosting them somewhere that I could have a look at them?

Edit - Please ignore, I can see them now and they are lovely and I am jealous Very cool. The latest English bike I found is a 70's Viscount Aerospace Victor. Cool name, light frame, 5 speed positron gears. Might be a good hybrid SA candidate, something I've been wanting to try for a while, 2 cogs on an AW.

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Originally Posted by BigChief
I've never raced anything, but I'm still into motorcycles. Old Brits of course. I still have one left

Nice Bonnie
I had a '76 T140. Lovely bike, but I always wanted one with drums instead of the useless disks they used during the seventies...
At the moment, I am restoring my '67 BSA B40WD that I crashed into a Jaguar 3 years ago. I will limp forever, but hope to finish the bike before the end of April.



So, mostly british bikes here too...

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Originally Posted by arty dave
Steve for some reason I can't see any of your images, are you hosting them somewhere that I could have a look at them?

Edit - Please ignore, I can see them now and they are lovely and I am jealous Very cool. The latest English bike I found is a 70's Viscount Aerospace Victor. Cool name, light frame, 5 speed positron gears. Might be a good hybrid SA candidate, something I've been wanting to try for a while, 2 cogs on an AW.
You could use two dished SA cogs back to back by taking the spacer out. This can be done with the standard length axle.
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Originally Posted by oldveloman
Nice Bonnie
I had a '76 T140. Lovely bike, but I always wanted one with drums instead of the useless disks they used during the seventies...
At the moment, I am restoring my '67 BSA B40WD that I crashed into a Jaguar 3 years ago. I will limp forever, but hope to finish the bike before the end of April.



So, mostly british bikes here too...

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It's easy for me to see the crossover between these two interests. Similar in many ways. Lovely bike. Had to look it up. Never saw this model number before. War Department. Sold to the public as surplus I guess. In the States we got a similar model in street scrambler trim. The 441 Victor.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
It's easy for me to see the crossover between these two interests. Similar in many ways. Lovely bike. Had to look it up. Never saw this model number before. War Department. Sold to the public as surplus I guess. In the States we got a similar model in street scrambler trim. The 441 Victor.
Yes, ex Ward Department. Most of these were sold to the public in the early eighties.
Frame and engine were similar to the Victor ( though the B40 is a 350cc ).
Sturdy and fun little bike

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This is in the local co-op's dumpster. Hate to see a Sturmey wheel get tossed. Might go back for it, even though I have no use for it.

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Originally Posted by oldveloman
Nice Bonnie
I had a '76 T140. Lovely bike, but I always wanted one with drums instead of the useless disks they used during the seventies...


So, mostly british bikes here too...
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Lovely bike and +1 on the drum brakes. The ATE single discs of the late 70's were the hydraulic equivalent to rod brakes.
Not British but a great ride. '72 R75/5
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Originally Posted by thumpism
This is in the local co-op's dumpster. Hate to see a Sturmey wheel get tossed. Might go back for it, even though I have no use for it.

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Originally Posted by thumpism
This is in the local co-op's dumpster. Hate to see a Sturmey wheel get tossed. Might go back for it, even though I have no use for it.

I do this for the cause of old roadster preservation all the time. Alone, this hub is of little value and is likely to be forgotten and lost, but in a collection of other bits is much more likely to find it's way to someone who will put it to good use.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
This is in the local co-op's dumpster. Hate to see a Sturmey wheel get tossed. Might go back for it, even though I have no use for it.

Could never pass that by. Have become compulsive about rescuing and cleaning up unwanted AW hubs. (If you really don't want could you remove hub from wheel and send on to me?)
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Did it. Fetched it home. One of you guys will probably wind up with it but that's a distinctly better fate than what was in store for it. Schwinn S-6 rim, as I opined in the "At the co-op" thread where I cross-posted, so the wheel is probably from a Breeze or Collegiate; 36H, May '77 hub date, 18T cog and the "handheld shifting" seems pretty crunchy but some lube and a hub adjust will probably fix it. I've seldom seen a bad AW.

See the other thread for another disappointing dumpster pic showing complete bikes.


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1950 Superbe brakes

Hello all, I've run into a snag or two. The retaining nut is broken on the rear brake cable clamp. The front brake threaded cable bolt is broken in half. 70 years take their toll. Would a late '60s parts bike have direct replacements?

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That's fantastic, thanks. Now to procure the abandoned bike and get the parts. I also need the chainguard clip pieces and the fully intact lighting system, front dynohub...

I have a crazy idea for the salvaged AW hub and dynohub involving a '1970s French 531 frame.This will be a good opportunity to rebuild an AW out of the wheel too - the originals on the derelict bike are goners. Good practice for the AG on my '50 Superbe, which will need the bearings replaced at least after 70 years of service and sitting.

The three-speed bug has bitten me hard.

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Good practice for the AG on my '50 Superbe, which will need the bearings replaced at least after 70 years of service and sitting.

The three-speed bug has bitten me hard.
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It has a way of doing that. After a while you may find bikes with derailleurs to be a bit... boring.

Somewhere In the 1950s the dynohubs went from being painted black on the outside bit facing the fork to all chrome.
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It has a way of doing that. After a while you may find bikes with derailleurs to be a bit... boring.

Somewhere In the 1950s the dynohubs went from being painted black on the outside bit facing the fork to all chrome.
My AG hub has a Jan 1950 build date on it, and the outside part (the dynamo part) is black. The front dynohub on the late '60s Raleigh I will hopefully procure is chrome. A relation of mine has a beat up Gitane Reynolds 531 frame sitting in his basement crawl space, and I believe that it is time for an awakening powered by a sturmey-archer hub. I want to build something like an old Lenton Sports out of it. The front forks are green and the rest of the frame is blue (the bike was run over by my grandfather in the early '70s and the fork came from Gitane in the wrong colour). It'll need a new crank so I'll have to figure out the particulars.
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(the bike was run over by my grandfather in the early '70s
How many people get to make that claim!
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Originally Posted by Ged117
My AG hub has a Jan 1950 build date on it, and the outside part (the dynamo part) is black. The front dynohub on the late '60s Raleigh I will hopefully procure is chrome. A relation of mine has a beat up Gitane Reynolds 531 frame sitting in his basement crawl space, and I believe that it is time for an awakening powered by a sturmey-archer hub. I want to build something like an old Lenton Sports out of it. The front forks are green and the rest of the frame is blue (the bike was run over by my grandfather in the early '70s and the fork came from Gitane in the wrong colour). It'll need a new crank so I'll have to figure out the particulars.
Raleigh gradually phased out black finished parts in the 50s. By 1954 the Dyno hub was all chromed. The older black ones are quite rare.
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Black dynohubs... used up all their war time parts by the mid 50’s?
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