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Old 04-19-19, 10:46 AM
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Lake Pepin 3-speed tour coming up! May 18-19th this year. Most of the hotel rooms in Wabasha are booked but there are a few left. The town is very much aware of the 3-speed crowd showing up every year!

If you are going, a nice investment is a county road map of the area around Maiden Rock to Pepin, Wisconsin and also the areas south of highway 61 on the Minnesota side. There are side road detours that are well worth taking. The Tour really shows off how well three speeds wheels are suited for pavement and gravel.
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Old 04-19-19, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
I still have some Revere ware. It's very durable stuff, but to be frank, they don't cook as well as heavier pots.

@gster, we have diners (of that style) all over NY and NJ. Do you not have them in Ontario? Generally, the food and service are mediocre, but prices are low, and it's an overall comforting feeling. Eggs are one of the safe things to order, so I have them for dinner.
Don't forget Pennsylvania, that state has (or had) some of the best diners in the east. The food was good to good-enough, and the service varied from excellent to surly. Many menus were like reading a short story.
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My opinion, nothing beats cast iron, but cast iron is, well, heavy.
I wonder how 531 would work as a frying pan?
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Originally Posted by Ballenxj View Post
The closest I came was a 1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500. That was a fun car too.
My late father-in-law from around 1980 - coming home from SLAC to Campbell, CA. He also had a TR-3, TR-4, MGB(?), and enough junkers to provide parts for all of them. He would have had a shop rag wrapped around his left foot to absorb the brake fluid that was leaking. My wife and I took the TR-3 on several excursions through the coastal mountains toward Santa Cruz and Capitola. Good times. The TR-3 had a large diameter steering wheel - OK at speed, but a bear to steer when parking. A small diameter wheel would have required a Samson at low speed.
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Originally Posted by dweenk View Post
My late father-in-law from around 1980 - coming home from SLAC to Campbell, CA. He also had a TR-3, TR-4, MGB(?), and enough junkers to provide parts for all of them. He would have had a shop rag wrapped around his left foot to absorb the brake fluid that was leaking. My wife and I took the TR-3 on several excursions through the coastal mountains toward Santa Cruz and Capitola. Good times. The TR-3 had a large diameter steering wheel - OK at speed, but a bear to steer when parking. A small diameter wheel would have required a Samson at low speed.
It's good you have an image of him doing what he loved to do. I'm sure your wife appreciates it too. I'm sure a smaller wheel would have increased the effort required for steering.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
I still have some Revere ware. It's very durable stuff, but to be frank, they don't cook as well as heavier pots.

@gster, we have diners (of that style) all over NY and NJ. Do you not have them in Ontario? Generally, the food and service are mediocre, but prices are low, and it's an overall comforting feeling. Eggs are one of the safe things to order, so I have them for dinner.
No, we don't have any of those "classic" diners here in Ontario (that I know of).
Whenever we travel through the US, we try to hit up a few on the way.
Last couple were in Albany and Lake George.


On the topic of bicycles I picked up and old paperback today
"Bicycle Care and Repair, Ben Burnstyn 1979.
Lots of 3 speed SA diagrams etc.
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Here's something fun....a friend of mine was looking up directions for how to get somewhere earlier today, and happened across a picture of me riding my Raleigh Tourist to work last fall on Google Maps Street View!


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Just picked up a Hercules at the bike Exchange. This one has an AMF sticker on the chain guard. I have never seen a bike with stamped steel lugs before. Must have been a very low end bike. It does say Made in England though so maybe imported to be sold by a chain store here in the US.




Did my thing :

Cleaned and rubbed out the frame and Clear coated it and the chain guard with Rustoleum Automotive grade clear enamel. New tires and tubes, new cables and covers, and swapped out some forged chrome brakes for the original stamped units. The wheels cleaned up nicely . The outside was fairly rust free but the inside under the rim strip looked terrible. Some time with a wire brush followed by some naval jelly then a coat of paint and they were ready to mount the tires . These rims are exceptionally thick and strong and there was nowhere that the integrity of the metal was questionable. I tried to clean the white pedals but the bad one was too far gone. I scrubbed it in acetone and then let it soak in bleach but never got it very white so I put a pair of chrome lyotard pedals on it. I had a bit of trouble mounting the front fender and had to shorten the stays a bit to get it to fit right





Anyway, here it is. Kind of a pretty bike . It would make a nice beach cruiser I think.
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Old 04-19-19, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by agmetal View Post
Here's something fun....a friend of mine was looking up directions for how to get somewhere earlier today, and happened across a picture of me riding my Raleigh Tourist to work last fall on Google Maps Street View!
How COOL is that?
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Very torquey engine, yes it was!
When Triumph Cars developed the TR 2 + follow ons 3, 3A, 4 & 4IRS they used a 4 cylinder Tractor Engine, I guess they could not afford to develop a new engine from scratch being shortly after WW2. It was a good solid gutsy engine built like a tank, it had wet removable cylinder liners. You had to be careful taking the head off not to disturb these liners, if you did and did not realise and put it back together, water leaked into the engine crankcase and you were in trouble. It was best to clamp them in place while you worked on the engine. My favourite Triumph engine was the 1600cc six cylinder engine in the Vitesse 6. It had a flywheel both ends of the crankshaft and was so smooth on idling you could stand a coin on edge on the rocker box.

just some useless information seeing as we are getting off subject some!!!
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Originally Posted by capnjonny View Post
Just picked up a Hercules at the bike Exchange. This one has an AMF sticker on the chain guard. I have never seen a bike with stamped steel lugs before. Must have been a very low end bike. It does say Made in England though so maybe imported to be sold by a chain store here in the US.




Did my thing :

Cleaned and rubbed out the frame and Clear coated it and the chain guard with Rustoleum Automotive grade clear enamel. New tires and tubes, new cables and covers, and swapped out some forged chrome brakes for the original stamped units. The wheels cleaned up nicely . The outside was fairly rust free but the inside under the rim strip looked terrible. Some time with a wire brush followed by some naval jelly then a coat of paint and they were ready to mount the tires . These rims are exceptionally thick and strong and there was nowhere that the integrity of the metal was questionable. I tried to clean the white pedals but the bad one was too far gone. I scrubbed it in acetone and then let it soak in bleach but never got it very white so I put a pair of chrome lyotard pedals on it. I had a bit of trouble mounting the front fender and had to shorten the stays a bit to get it to fit right





Anyway, here it is. Kind of a pretty bike . It would make a nice beach cruiser I think.
Looks great. Nice job. There was a big consolidation of the English bicycle industry in 1960. The Hercules plant in Birmingham was shut down, but the name lived on with bikes made at the Raleigh plant in Nottingham. This is one of those. While it is a lower cost model, the frame is exactly the same as a top of the line Raleigh Sports. An interesting thing about those lugs are is that they are not cast. They were press formed out of a single piece of steel. Nothing cheap about them. The steel may not be a chromoly alloy, but it is harder alloy than what was used in the welded frames of that time. True, it is a roadster and not a high performance bike, but it is a good, well made bike and I think you will find that it's a pleasant ride.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
I still have some Revere ware. It's very durable stuff, but to be frank, they don't cook as well as heavier pots.

@gster, we have diners (of that style) all over NY and NJ. Do you not have them in Ontario? Generally, the food and service are mediocre, but prices are low, and it's an overall comforting feeling. Eggs are one of the safe things to order, so I have them for dinner.
I like mediocre diner food. Bike touring makes it ok!
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There's a few genuine vintage rail car diners left in Maine. Here's a good one.


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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung View Post
When Triumph Cars developed the TR 2 + follow ons 3, 3A, 4 & 4IRS they used a 4 cylinder Tractor Engine, I guess they could not afford to develop a new engine from scratch being shortly after WW2. It was a good solid gutsy engine built like a tank, it had wet removable cylinder liners. You had to be careful taking the head off not to disturb these liners, if you did and did not realise and put it back together, water leaked into the engine crankcase and you were in trouble. It was best to clamp them in place while you worked on the engine. My favourite Triumph engine was the 1600cc six cylinder engine in the Vitesse 6. It had a flywheel both ends of the crankshaft and was so smooth on idling you could stand a coin on edge on the rocker box.

just some useless information seeing as we are getting off subject some!!!
I also recall reading BITD that the Triumph 4's had under-square cylinders - back then it was believed that a narrower cylinder bore and a longer piston stroke (longer throws on the crankshaft, equivalent to longer crank arms) resulted in higher torque at lower RPM, relative to a larger cylinder bore and shorter stroke, at constant displacement (cubic inches). Makes sense that it was a tractor engine. I assume the same was true for the 6 cylinder.
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung View Post
When Triumph Cars developed the TR 2 + follow ons 3, 3A, 4 & 4IRS they used a 4 cylinder Tractor Engine, I guess they could not afford to develop a new engine from scratch being shortly after WW2. It was a good solid gutsy engine built like a tank, it had wet removable cylinder liners. You had to be careful taking the head off not to disturb these liners, if you did and did not realise and put it back together, water leaked into the engine crankcase and you were in trouble. It was best to clamp them in place while you worked on the engine. My favourite Triumph engine was the 1600cc six cylinder engine in the Vitesse 6. It had a flywheel both ends of the crankshaft and was so smooth on idling you could stand a coin on edge on the rocker box.

just some useless information seeing as we are getting off subject some!!!
I have wast... put to good use and enjoyed several hours viewing the My Junk E-type Engine video series on YouTube.
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I think you've done a good job on this one.
I usually remove those aftermarket generators and lights as well.
I've got a black 1967 AMF Hercules in the shed.
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Originally Posted by BigChief View Post
There's a few genuine vintage rail car diners left in Maine. Here's a good one.


I wish I was there right now!
I'd be at the counter with a plate or corned beef hash
and eggs.....
Or cheeseburger and fries if was a bit later.
I have a really good book that lists them all state by state.
Most are to be found in the NE.

This book has a good chapter on building a wheel.

Frankie Drake set.
This was built in an alley in Hamilton Ont.
You can see a DL-1 front wheel on the right.
The interior was built in the studio.
The address in the transom (188) is
a- a lucky number (Chinese)
b- my home address
The set's been torn down since.

A ladies' DL-1 in the bg.
This looks to be the old Carpet Factory on Sherman in Hamilton.
Her motorbike started off as a 350 Enfield from India but
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung View Post
When Triumph Cars developed the TR 2 + follow ons 3, 3A, 4 & 4IRS they used a 4 cylinder Tractor Engine, I guess they could not afford to develop a new engine from scratch being shortly after WW2. It was a good solid gutsy engine built like a tank, it had wet removable cylinder liners. You had to be careful taking the head off not to disturb these liners, if you did and did not realise and put it back together, water leaked into the engine crankcase and you were in trouble. It was best to clamp them in place while you worked on the engine. My favourite Triumph engine was the 1600cc six cylinder engine in the Vitesse 6. It had a flywheel both ends of the crankshaft and was so smooth on idling you could stand a coin on edge on the rocker box.


just some useless information seeing as we are getting off subject some!!!
My impression is that among many other social challenges it faced British industry was severely undercapitalized following WW2, which is no big surprise, really.
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This one a Nelson or Camper longflap


Up front, a Junior. Loaded down, it does not cause undue steering difficulties.
Spending a lot of time over at the Sisters house while they are on extended vacation. So, I am rolling quite a few miles on the road going back an forth between my house and theirs. A double bagger kinda trip as it were!

Decided to make use of both my Carradice bags for hauling clothes, road gear, food and “stuff”. The Twenty handles both bags with ease!
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This one a Nelson or Camper longflap


Up front, a Junior. Loaded down, it does not cause undue steering difficulties.
Spending a lot of time over at the Sisters house while they are on extended vacation. So, I am rolling quite a few miles on the road going back an forth between my house and theirs. A double bagger kinda trip as it were!

Decided to make use of both my Carradice bags for hauling clothes, road gear, food and “stuff”. The Twenty handles both bags with ease!
I like the idea of a good "work" bike.
One that can carry a lot.
I live downtown and rarely use the car(s).
I prefer to do my errands/shopping/hardware store
on the bike.
I've got photos (somewhere) from Rwanda where bikes
are used as taxis and as haulers of anything you could
imagine.
Someone gave me a t-shirt that says:
"Never Under Estimate an Old Man On a Bike"
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post


This one a Nelson or Camper longflap


Up front, a Junior. Loaded down, it does not cause undue steering difficulties.
Spending a lot of time over at the Sisters house while they are on extended vacation. So, I am rolling quite a few miles on the road going back an forth between my house and theirs. A double bagger kinda trip as it were!

Decided to make use of both my Carradice bags for hauling clothes, road gear, food and “stuff”. The Twenty handles both bags with ease!
Looks very sporty yet purposeful. Good job!
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Originally Posted by BigChief View Post
There's a few genuine vintage rail car diners left in Maine. Here's a good one.


I miss cafeterias, although I don't think they will ever have a coffee table book of their own. In the west there was Furr's--now called Furr's Fresh Buffet, I don't know if it's the same. NYC was of course famous for its Horn & Hardart cafeterias and the Automats that were operated by the same company. But everyplace had cafeterias. Inexpensive food, not fancy. Now I go to Ikea. There might be some company cafeterias operating, but Ikea's are the last ones I know of here that are open to the public. Good coffee at Ikea. Get one of their Ikea Family cards and the coffee's free. Ikea even was offering a bike for awhile. Belt drive, single speed. But the belt was defective and the bike was recalled.

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Originally Posted by gster View Post
I like the idea of a good "work" bike.

One that can carry a lot.

I live downtown and rarely use the car(s).

I prefer to do my errands/shopping/hardware store

on the bike.

I've got photos (somewhere) from Rwanda where bikes

are used as taxis and as haulers of anything you could

imagine.

Someone gave me a t-shirt that says:

"Never Under Estimate an Old Man On a Bike"

I hope we'll be seeing more cargo type bikes in use here as more and more businesses need to have online ordering with delivery to be competitive. If I should need to make yet another "career" change, I might stick one of those Xtracycle things on a bike and try one of the bike delivery services. And I love those box bikes. Our current mayor, unfortunately, has had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support bike lanes and bike share. (And public transit, which is really bizarre for a politician in NYC.) Don't know about this "old man" thing. Can't imagine who you might be talking about. Two regular customers at my workplace are guys in their 80s. One guy still works shifts as a waiter at a local TGI Friday; the other is a photographer and he's got an exhibit in a major public locale of photos from an Asia trip he took in the early 60s.
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Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln View Post
I hope we'll be seeing more cargo type bikes in use here as more and more businesses need to have online ordering with delivery to be competitive. If I should need to make yet another "career" change, I might stick one of those Xtracycle things on a bike and try one of the bike delivery services. And I love those box bikes. Our current mayor, unfortunately, has had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support bike lanes and bike share. (And public transit, which is really bizarre for a politician in NYC.) Don't know about this "old man" thing. Can't imagine who you might be talking about. Two regular customers at my workplace are guys in their 80s. One guy still works shifts as a waiter at a local TGI Friday; the other is a photographer and he's got an exhibit in a major public locale of photos from an Asia trip he took in the early 60s.
Delivering all these online purchases by bicycle is a good idea.
I've never seen so many delivery trucks on the streets.
Last week I caught a guy stealing packages off someone's porch.
I called the police and chased him on my bike.
He ditched his bike in the park and ran into the back of a sketchy
apartment building.
I confiscated his bike (probably stolen) and waited for the
police to arrive.
After I made my report we decided that I would
donate the stolen bike to the non profit bike shop down the street
There's a broken weld on the seat stay.
I was actually on my way to the bank to
replace my credit card that had been stolen the day before.......
Work and pursuit bike.
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