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After my question about how best to secure handlebar grips, I'm tempted to say hairspray.
That's a good one!
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Could be the wrong size.
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Most steel bicycle frames have tubing of standard outside diameter. Frames made to British or Italian standards will typically have 1 1/8" (28.6 mm) seat tubes.
The Pug has a built-in shim, which supposedly can be removed easily to go up to a 1 inch (25.4 mm) post from the 22mm post used with the shim. Mine has the shim and I think the 22 mm post, which is a good snug fit except it slips! Gonna try cleaning post and inside of tube again with some solvent.
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Any suggestions on keeping a seat post from slipping down (apart from that I lose 25 pounds). I've wiped away any grease inside the tube and on the post and I tighten the bolt to where I'm afraid I'll bust it if I tighten it any more and yet the post slips.
Another solution is that sticky grease used for carbon fiber parts.
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Three Speed Century?

The Santa Fe Century is coming up next month, and of course that has me thinking about doing it on a three speed. I am fairly certain the 50 mile ride would be pleasant enough. 100 miles seems like it would be possible, and for some reason, every time I think something might be difficult and taxing, but possible, I want to give it a try to see if I'm right - if it really is possible. The last time I rode the full 100 miles, I used an '84 Trek 520, and I know I appreciated both the extra high gearing, for booking along downhill and on the flats, (I found I could easily catch up to people on carbon bikes, well, maybe easily is an exaggeration), and the granny gear for getting up Heartbreak Hill, specifically, but also the long climb over the Ortiz Mountains outside of Madrid, NM. My questions to myself are, how much would I be walking, (certainly up Heartbreak), and would my top speed be reduced to the point where I would take way too long to complete the full 100. I guess I have to throw in that the date of the century is my 23rd wedding anniversary - so maybe the 50 miles with my wife would contribute more toward marital harmony than a 100 mile ride - this year.

Still, in thinking about it, I'm surprised that Googling "Century Ride on a Three Speed" does not turn up any stories, beyond that of a 90 year old grandmother. Do people on this list do any century rides on their English 3-speeds? Right now it seems "different" to me, but not crazy. Please let me know if I'm verging into crazy.
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Three Speed Century?

The Santa Fe Century is coming up next month, and of course that has me thinking about doing it on a three speed. I am fairly certain the 50 mile ride would be pleasant enough. 100 miles seems like it would be possible, and for some reason, every time I think something might be difficult and taxing, but possible, I want to give it a try to see if I'm right - if it really is possible. The last time I rode the full 100 miles, I used an '84 Trek 520, and I know I appreciated both the extra high gearing, for booking along downhill and on the flats, (I found I could easily catch up to people on carbon bikes, well, maybe easily is an exaggeration), and the granny gear for getting up Heartbreak Hill, specifically, but also the long climb over the Ortiz Mountains outside of Madrid, NM. My questions to myself are, how much would I be walking, (certainly up Heartbreak), and would my top speed be reduced to the point where I would take way too long to complete the full 100. I guess I have to throw in that the date of the century is my 23rd wedding anniversary - so maybe the 50 miles with my wife would contribute more toward marital harmony than a 100 mile ride - this year.

Still, in thinking about it, I'm surprised that Googling "Century Ride on a Three Speed" does not turn up any stories, beyond that of a 90 year old grandmother. Do people on this list do any century rides on their English 3-speeds? Right now it seems "different" to me, but not crazy. Please let me know if I'm verging into crazy.
Oh, yeah, crazy for sure and if it fit my schedule I'd be down there to do it as well. Sounds awesome! Keep in mind that if you have low gears for climbing, you're probably not going to go a whole lot faster than if you just HAB (Hike-A-Bike). I would look into a larger sprocket on the rear like a 23 and maybe a 44 on the front- high won't be all that high but it will allow you to climb pretty well. Even if you have a 22 and 46 you can climb pretty good if you're OK with standing on the pedals. Think about what the guys on single speeds are doing...

I've been riding on something called the Tour Divide, which is a mountain bike route that goes from Banff, Alberta down to the Mexican boarder following the Continental Divide. I've really been thinking of building up a 3 speed on 650b wheels for this- complete with rim brakes and AW hub. Goto this link: https://tourdivide.org/ and look at the greyed-out photo in the background on the home page. Obviously some very old bikes being used for bikepacking...
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Oh, yeah, crazy for sure
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But if you're very fit, try it. It would be sheer speculation for us to suggest you'll avoid the broom wagon, you know your engine better than we do.
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I've been riding on something called the Tour Divide, which is a mountain bike route that goes from Banff, Alberta down to the Mexican boarder following the Continental Divide. I've really been thinking of building up a 3 speed on 650b wheels for this- complete with rim brakes and AW hub. Goto this link: https://tourdivide.org/ and look at the greyed-out photo in the background on the home page. Obviously some very old bikes being used for bikepacking...
I had heard that if you're not in period clothing on the Tour Divide, you will be shunned from border to border. I guess that photo verifies the rumor. I hope you enjoy passing through my state. Enjoy the pie in Pie Town.
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@gster - Thanks. I didn’t forget you all. I spent literally all of 2018 helping my sister, who had metastatic breast cancer. She died on Thanksgiving. Not gonna hijack this thread, so if you or anyone else wanted to reach out, a private message would be appreciated.
@gugie asked if a 2 speed counts. I think if it’s a vintage 2 speed kickback, you’re good. Something modern, like mine, I’m on the fence about.
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Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln View Post
Any suggestions on keeping a seat post from slipping down (apart from that I lose 25 pounds). I've wiped away any grease inside the tube and on the post and I tighten the bolt to where I'm afraid I'll bust it if I tighten it any more and yet the post slips.
When I had a similar problem with a slipping seat post, my LBS suggested a grease with grit in it commonly used on carbon seatposts. I never did try it as I swapped out the post for an alloy one which worked fine.
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Dunlop Rubber Factory circa 1920
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@gster , Would you or any others happen to know when the factory stopped producing tubes? I am still trying to narrow down the decade my Royal Nord with Brampton 3 speed was built. It came with the seemingly original Dunlop Imperial tires and Dunlop Air Seal tubes (metal stems) which also still hold air.
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Originally Posted by browngw View Post
@gster , Would you or any others happen to know when the factory stopped producing tubes? I am still trying to narrow down the decade my Royal Nord with Brampton 3 speed was built. It came with the seemingly original Dunlop Imperial tires and Dunlop Air Seal tubes (metal stems) which also still hold air.
That factory closed in 1970 and was demolished soon after.
There was a slight problem with exploding manhole covers
in the area.....
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Originally Posted by browngw View Post
When I had a similar problem with a slipping seat post, my LBS suggested a grease with grit in it commonly used on carbon seatposts. I never did try it as I swapped out the post for an alloy one which worked fine.
This is a good suggestion. Thank you Salubrious, too.
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My '66 in NYC's Central Park during a rainy ride home from midtown today.



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We had an interesting bike come into my shop today for new tires. The frame is a Rudge Sports, looks to be c.1950s, with a late-'70s (I didn't check the date stamp but it had those lines on it) AW hub. It's in overall rough shape and needs some more work, but it's a cool build. Someone laced a pair of SA hubs to 650B wheels, so the bike's owner and I decided on a pair of 38mm Gravel Kings!




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We had an interesting bike come into my shop today for new tires. The frame is a Rudge Sports, looks to be c.1950s, with a late-'70s (I didn't check the date stamp but it had those lines on it) AW hub. It's in overall rough shape and needs some more work, but it's a cool build. Someone laced a pair of SA hubs to 650B wheels, so the bike's owner and I decided on a pair of 38mm Gravel Kings!




Nice bike.
See if you
can sell him a
new chain.
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That's pretty minor compared to a couple other things requiring attention that didn't get noticed until after the tires were installed
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That's pretty minor compared to a couple other things requiring attention that didn't get noticed until after the tires were installed
That looks like a work order taped to
the bars.
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That looks like a work order taped to
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It is, for the tires. He'll probably bring it back to have the larger issues addressed...some involved some parts that we can't easily source, and it would end up being pretty expensive to have us do it, so it probably won't be right away
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My '66 in NYC's Central Park during a rainy ride home from midtown today.



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Suicidal seat post?? WTF ... Nice bike for somebody 6" shorter.
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Originally Posted by agmetal View Post
We had an interesting bike come into my shop today for new tires. The frame is a Rudge Sports, looks to be c.1950s, with a late-'70s (I didn't check the date stamp but it had those lines on it) AW hub. It's in overall rough shape and needs some more work, but it's a cool build. Someone laced a pair of SA hubs to 650B wheels, so the bike's owner and I decided on a pair of 38mm Gravel Kings!




Nice looking scorcher. From the combination of the lug shapes and the 20-30 sticker, the frameset can be dated to 1953/54. Crank looks original. Wonder why he chose 650B. Maybe he rides gravel roads a lot.
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My '66 in NYC's Central Park during a rainy ride home from midtown today.



That is all...
I'm envious of your ride through that park, I've only been to NYC twice and haven't been there yet. One of the greatest man-made
landscapes according to most. Nice bike to do it on.
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Nice looking scorcher. From the combination of the lug shapes and the 20-30 sticker, the frameset can be dated to 1953/54. Crank looks original. Wonder why he chose 650B. Maybe he rides gravel roads a lot.
Dunno, but apparently the bike's current owner bought it from someone else, with the 650B conversion having already been done. I've considered a similar build before, partly for the ability to make one of these bikes more useful in the winter, since studded tires actually exist in that size.
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I'm envious of your ride through that park, I've only been to NYC twice and haven't been there yet. One of the greatest man-made
landscapes according to most. Nice bike to do it on.
Well let me know the next time you're here and I'll show you around some great places to ride here.

You're in one of my favorite places - I've been to Nova Scotia and Cape Breton at least 5 times since I was about 17. Last visit was about 4 years ago. Where are you located?
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Suicidal seat post?? WTF ... Nice bike for somebody 6" shorter.
LOL! It's a BMX "layback" post. I'm 6' 3" and it helps with positioning. They didn't make bigger frame sizes, but it's pretty solid.
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