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Old 04-17-21, 10:21 AM
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A Good deal
His and hers 3 speeds offered at $150.00 the pair.
Mens is a CCM (S/A)
and the Ladies a Road King (Shimano)
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Originally Posted by Salubrious View Post
I just buy shift cable. Ace Hardware sells brass tubing in some really small sizes; I bought some of that and cut it to size, fit it over the shift cable and crush it to swage it to the cable. A little solder doesn't hurt either. Cheap, easy albeit a bit geeky but that is what nutters do.
I found the thin copper/brass capillary tubing sold at auto stores for things like oil pressure gauges work for cable ends as well. I used leftovers from my Triumph TR7.
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Just got this off of eBay for my wife. '60s Robin Hood. Probably paid too much.

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Old 04-17-21, 01:58 PM
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When I was a kid in the 70's there was an old guy who had a backyard motorcycle shop and small machine shop. He worked on mostly older British motorcycles.
He had an old iron mold which was used for molding the ends on m/c brake cables. The mold had several different sizes it could do, including bicycle cable ends. He'd form the ends with zinc. It was similar to a fishing weight or bullet mold. I also seem to remember seeing one in an old JC Whitney catalog back then.

:Looking at the end on a few original cables I've got here, it appears to be just a steel barrel crimped over the cable. I could see he fishing line ferrules working well with some solder to back up the crimp but you would need to find a pretty small ferrule. All of those I have in my tackle box are too big to fit into the shifter.
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Old 04-17-21, 02:04 PM
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Anyone have a good source for steel 27" rims for a '77 Sprite 27?
I picked up a very clean bike but both rims are rusted through where they sat flat on concrete for decades. The original rims are Endrick style and measure 32mm wide OD and are marked Sturmey Archer near the valve hole. Each rim is rusted away along the very edge where the steel folds over to form the bead area in about an 2" area on both rims. The tires were pretty much melding away, they got sticky like an old rubber band you find after too many years in storage that's melted and stuck to everything.
The bike however was rust free, it was just covered top to bottom in fine sawdust from the guy's table saw about 15 ft away from where it was sitting.
I will also likely lose the self adjusting brake levers in favor of a set of older brakes.

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Originally Posted by 27inch View Post
Anyone have a good source for steel 27" rims for a '77 Sprite 27?
I picked up a very clean bike but both rims are rusted through where they sat flat on concrete for decades. The original rims are Endrick style and measure 32mm wide OD and are marked Sturmey Archer near the valve hole. Each rim is rusted away along the very edge where the steel folds over to form the bead area in about an 2" area on both rims. The tires were pretty much melding away, they got sticky like an old rubber band you find after too many years in storage that's melted and stuck to everything.
The bike however was rust free, it was just covered top to bottom in fine sawdust from the guy's table saw about 15 ft away from where it was sitting.
I will also likely lose the self adjusting brake levers in favor of a set of older brakes.

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I have a very nice 40H steel Sturmey rear rim for a Sprite 27. Yours for shipping cost. PM me.

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Old 04-18-21, 02:28 AM
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I have a very nice 40H steel Sturmey rear rim for a Sprite 27. Yours for shipping cost. PM me.

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Thanks for the offer but both wheels are 36h and super wide. I looked at a few others and they had narrower rims, these are as wide as the Westrick rims on a Sports model.
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Originally Posted by 27inch View Post
Thanks for the offer but both wheels are 36h and super wide. I looked at a few others and they had narrower rims, these are as wide as the Westrick rims on a Sports model.
Gotcha. Mine is an Endrick.

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Not English but a nice interpretation from the '80s, the Fuji Cambridge III with Sturmey hub and factory rack, baskets and rear axle kickstand. Nice little bike, and it's cheap! I assembled and sold several back then.

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Old 04-19-21, 06:54 AM
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Sturmey hub when Fuji could have gone for the Shimano 333? Interesting. Good on Fuji...

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Brass tubing for the shifter end, or the indicator end?

-Kurt
I've used them on both ends. I do a bit of filing so that the ends are nice and spin easily in the cable barrel adjuster. Once crimped they hold together well. I'd not thought of the fishing bits but if made of lead I'd be worried that they would crumble. The brass piping doesn't seem to do that.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Sturmey hub when Fuji could have gone for the Shimano 333? Interesting. Good on Fuji.
The derailleur-equipped Cambridge VI has alloy stuff on it; rims, bars, QR front hub, etc,. but they built the III with chromed steel stuff. Shame. Still 27" wheels, though.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Sturmey hub when Fuji could have gone for the Shimano 333? Interesting. Good on Fuji...

-Kurt
I worked in a shop back in the early 80's when those were selling new, many of those came with Suntour hubs, made under license from SA, if not they had a Shimano hub.
They were a good bike, and they outsold the Raleigh models 10 to 1. Mostly because they were cheaper.
They were a step up from the Columbia three speeds they sold for around $99 at the time but the Columbia still outsold everything else because of price.
There were a few levels of these bikes, with the top model having Ukai alloy rims, Suntour 3 speed rear hub, a mid flange front hub, alloy cranks, alloy bars and stem, and stainless fenders. The lesser models had steel rims, steel square taper cranks, and Shimano hubs. There were also earlier models with cottered cranks and steel everything too.

The frames were odd compared to most others, the men's model had a hump back top tube, and the ladies model was sort of a mixte style frame.

Here's a cat. page I found online for '82:


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Another pair, this time early '60s Hercules Courier his 'n' hers.

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Raleigh Sprite 3+2

I've been meaning to share this here. I'd be happy to learn more about the hub. Obviously neglected at some point, but the wheels look rideable from here.
$100 1967 Raleigh Sprite 3+2

Indicator left

Indicator right

3+2 speed Hub?
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Looks like an S5 hub... https://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey...spd.html#4and5

That is a cool bike but will need lots of elbow grease! Depending on where you are that is either cheap or overpriced
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Yeah, too bad that right-side shift lever seems to be missing.
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I worked in a shop back in the early 80's when those were selling new, many of those came with Suntour hubs, made under license from SA, if not they had a Shimano hub...The frames were odd compared to most others, the men's model had a hump back top tube, and the ladies model was sort of a mixte style frame.
As for 80s Japanese three speeds, the best one I've heard about is (of course) Miyata. One day I hope to cross paths with one:
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Yeah, too bad that right-side shift lever seems to be missing.
Those levers were plastic. They never lasted long.
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As for 80s Japanese three speeds, the best one I've heard about is (of course) Miyata. One day I hope to cross paths with one:
Wasn't one of those listed in the sale section?

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Those levers were plastic. They never lasted long.
That one has the metal/aluminum? throttle shifters.
Quite nice and sturdy.
The plastic ones were weak.

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I see a 23" Humber and a Raleigh Sports ladies'.

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Most of a Raleigh Twenty for cheap.

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