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My new wheels (Ghisallo wooden clincher rims)

Old 03-03-10, 07:07 PM
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My new wheels (Ghisallo wooden clincher rims)

The wheels for the frame I built came today, and they are spectacular. Ric Hjertberg, owner of Wheel Fanatyk built them, and they are absolutely true (not more than half a millimeter) both vertically and laterally. I couldn't be happier.

Now, can someone recommend 700c-32 gumwall clinchers with wire beads?

The front wheel has a Sturmey-Archer drum brake hub, and the rear wheel has a Shimano Nexus-8 IGH with coaster brake. Since the rims don't have bead hooks, I'll have to use tires with wire beads and keep the pressure lower than around 65-70 psi.
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Stan,

Absolutely stunning! Can't wait to see them mounted with tires and on your new frame. Will you use fenders and a chain guard?
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Very pretty! Is there an upper weight limit on those?

As far as gumwall wire bead tires go, I think that these are the best choice:



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Wow... Fun. Scary. Amazing. That's really, really cool.
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Wow.

I am totally ignorant about wooden rims. Why put them on a bike? (And I don't mean that to sound snotty. I just don't know anything about them.)

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Panaracer Paselas are the only choice for tires as far as I'm concerned.
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Originally Posted by jmichaeldesign View Post
Panaracer Paselas are the only choice for tires as far as I'm concerned.
those are BEAUTIFUL! I am actually jealous! I think these wheels deserve a nice tan skinwalls not those ugly conti tires.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
Stan,

Absolutely stunning! Can't wait to see them mounted with tires and on your new frame. Will you use fenders and a chain guard?
Thanks, Bob! I think fenders will fit, and if so I'll probably make provisions for them by brazing on some eyelets (now that I can braze, heh heh...). I hadn't even thought about a chain guard, but it sure would be nice not to have to worry about getting grease on my trousers. This bike isn't one to be ridden wearing spandex.

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Very pretty! Is there an upper weight limit on those?

As far as gumwall wire bead tires go, I think that these are the best choice:


Thanks, E. I like Continentals, so those may be just the ticket. In all the stuff I've read on Ric's blog, I haven't seen anything about weight limitations. They're 36 spoke wheels, so I don't think that at 190 pounds I'll have any problems.
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Wow.

I am totally ignorant about wooden rims. Why put them on a bike? (And I don't mean that to sound snotty. I just don't know anything about them.)

jim
Jim, I don't know much about them either, except what I've read about them on the Wheel Fanatyk blog. I first met Ric at his NAHBS booth in Portland in '08, and loved the look. The rims are very, very light and have been used on track bikes because the density of the wood is very low compared to aluminum and even carbon fiber. They use an epoxy resin instead of resorcinol glue in modern wood rims like the Ghisallo Sport clincher rims I bought, and the epoxy seals the wood so that moisture content remains constant and optimal. We'll see how they work out, but I've got to say they sure are gorgeous in the flesh.
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Sweet man, have you thought of trying Panaracer Pacelas? I've got 'em on one of my bikes and let me tell you, they're pretty trick.

Also, I'm sure me, and many other people on this forum would like to be educated about the rigors of those wooden rims.
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Originally Posted by jmichaeldesign View Post
Panaracer Paselas are the only choice for tires as far as I'm concerned.
It looks like they're available in 700x37 with wire beads, and they do have the look I'm after. Thanks for the tip! I'll have to carefully measure the fork to make sure the 37s will fit.
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Wow, my post was really delayed, I've got bad internet
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Originally Posted by Scooper View Post
In all the stuff I've read on Ric's blog, I haven't seen anything about weight limitations. They're 36 spoke wheels, so I don't think that at 190 pounds I'll have any problems.
What is the price on those, if I may ask? I am building another vintage tri bike (I always do triathlons in vintage steel and that is enough to just get a couple of extra looks and gain a few seconds by stun competitors) but I think that racing on these rims might get some of the competition on the ditch. The cherry on top
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What is the price on those, if I may ask? I am building another vintage tri bike (I always do triathlons in vintage steel and that is enough to just get a couple of extra looks and gain a few seconds by stun competitors) but I think that racing on these rims might get some of the competition on the ditch. The cherry on top
I don't think anyone at a triathlon will even notice or care. But if you are going to race on wooden rims you better get the tubular versions. In my opinon the clincher version is for cruising around only.
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Originally Posted by EjustE View Post
What is the price on those, if I may ask? I am building another vintage tri bike (I always do triathlons in vintage steel and that is enough to just get a couple of extra looks and gain a few seconds by stun competitors) but I think that racing on these rims might get some of the competition on the ditch. The cherry on top
The rims were $185 each, and he charges $100 to build a wheel (he furnishes the spokes, customer provides the hubs). If you ride tubular (sew-up) tires, I think they'd be great. I'm not sure I'd want to race the clincher rims, though; the limit on tire pressure because the rims lack bead hooks might slow you down. Ric says these can be used with caliper brakes, but the wood doesn't dissipate heat like aluminum does, so he says the brake pads wear faster and discolor the braking surface of the rims.

There are definitely drawbacks to wooden rims, but their beauty trumped the disadvantages for me for use on this particular type of bike (recreational city bike).
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I don't think anyone at a triathlon will even notice or care. But if you are going to race on wooden rims you better get the tubular versions. In my opinon the clincher version is for cruising around only.
I agree...
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Originally Posted by Scooper View Post
The rims were $185 each, and he charges $100 to build a wheel (he furnishes the spokes, customer provides the hubs). If you ride tubular (sew-up) tires, I think they'd be great. I'm not sure I'd want to race the clincher rims, though; the limit on tire pressure because the rims lack bead hooks might slow you down. Ric says these can be used with caliper brakes, but the wood doesn't dissipate heat like aluminum does, so he says the brake pads wear faster and discolor the braking surface of the rims.

There are definitely drawbacks to wooden rims, but their beauty trumped the disadvantages for me for use on this particular type of bike (recreational city bike).
Thanks!

the price is definitely reasonable compared to the current offerings, but that braking issue (I don't care about tire pressure; I usually ride 130 PSi tires at 100 or so; and I am not planning on placing any time soon) is a show stopper. No wonder wooden rims were used in track bikes... back to Wolber's for me
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WOW! That is all.
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They're beautiful! Now all you need is a set of these.
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They're beautiful! Now all you need is a set of these.
Those are nice. The other wooden fenders I've seen are flat, and would probably work but aesthetically they just don't look 'right' to me. These, with the compound curve, do look right. Thanks for the link.
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Those are beautiful wheels.
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Those are nice. The other wooden fenders I've seen are flat, and would probably work but aesthetically they just don't look 'right' to me. These, with the compound curve, do look right. Thanks for the link.
Happy to help. The guy does chainguards, too - some weird and wonderful stuff.
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Very trick, Stan.

Your new steed sounds like it would fit perfectly into the Rivendell community, so that makes me think Riv's Jack Brown tires (700x33.333) might be just the ticket . . . .

https://www.rivbike.com/products/show...en-blue/10-092

I thinkl they would be the bee's knees on those wheels.
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The Panaracer Pacela 700x37 wire bead tires will clear both the front fork and the rear chain stays and seat stay bridge, so I've ordered a pair. Fender clearance will be tight, but I think I can make it work.

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Darn, you really should have ordered Grand Bois Cypress tires.
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