Let's see your Eddy Merckx!
09-27-10, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I'm going to disagree...a De Rosa that Merckx rode is a De Rosa, whether it's more valuable and desirable or not. A Falcon with Merckx's decals is a Falcon. A Serotta with Huffy's badge is a Serotta. To me, this thread is about Eddy Merckx bikes...meaning bikes built in the Merckx factory or designed by folks who work in/for the Merckx factory. As Longbeach said above, the litespeeds badged Merckx are Merckx bikes. Falcons with a Merckx logo are Falcons.
I would define it as Merckx bikes designed by, or built in, the Merckx factory. A Colnago is a Colnago, a Falcon is a Falcon and a Merckx is a Merckx. I suppose we'd have to ask the OP what he intended, but I'd bet that when he said show your Merckx bikes, he means show your Eddy Merckx factory built/designed bikes.
I'm probably being a snob, but calling a badged Falcon a Merckx is an insult to a Merckx and is a semantic game. Would you consider a Murray labeled Serotta a Murray? If you sold it on ebay would you just call it a Murray? You would call a Serotta with a Murray decal a Serotta because it has more cache. Calling the Falcon a Merckx is an attempt to give it a cache it doesn't really have. It's a Falcon with a cool label.
I don't call my Raleigh Professional a Raleigh Team...even though it says team on it.
I would define it as Merckx bikes designed by, or built in, the Merckx factory. A Colnago is a Colnago, a Falcon is a Falcon and a Merckx is a Merckx. I suppose we'd have to ask the OP what he intended, but I'd bet that when he said show your Merckx bikes, he means show your Eddy Merckx factory built/designed bikes.
I'm probably being a snob, but calling a badged Falcon a Merckx is an insult to a Merckx and is a semantic game. Would you consider a Murray labeled Serotta a Murray? If you sold it on ebay would you just call it a Murray? You would call a Serotta with a Murray decal a Serotta because it has more cache. Calling the Falcon a Merckx is an attempt to give it a cache it doesn't really have. It's a Falcon with a cool label.
I don't call my Raleigh Professional a Raleigh Team...even though it says team on it.
A Murray built by Serotta is just that, A Serotta built Murray and it is worth significantly more than a Serotta.
But I would agree that it is largely semantics, and the OP is probably referring to EM factory bikes, none of which were built by Eddy's hands...
09-27-10, 06:07 PM
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[QUOTE=vjp;11532982]What about Masi? They are/were not built by the Masi family but contracted except for a select few, same with Colnago until he set up his own factory.QUOTE]
That's a different story just like what is happening now with Merckx bikes. Eddy is no longer the boss, no longer involved in the day to day operations like he was - the name has been sold to a conglomerate (sp) who now build with his name on the bike.
I have a California built Masi and I consider it a Masi - not an Italian Masi but just as good if not better.
That's a different story just like what is happening now with Merckx bikes. Eddy is no longer the boss, no longer involved in the day to day operations like he was - the name has been sold to a conglomerate (sp) who now build with his name on the bike.
I have a California built Masi and I consider it a Masi - not an Italian Masi but just as good if not better.
09-27-10, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Belg-Ital Steel
55cm with all Campy parts (except wheels-Rigida with Mars 5000 hubs?)
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09-27-10, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vjp
What about Masi? They are/were not built by the Masi family but contracted except for a select few, same with Colnago until he set up his own factory.
A Murray built by Serotta is just that, A Serotta built Murray and it is worth significantly more than a Serotta.
But I would agree that it is largely semantics, and the OP is probably referring to EM factory bikes, none of which were built by Eddy's hands...
A Murray built by Serotta is just that, A Serotta built Murray and it is worth significantly more than a Serotta.
But I would agree that it is largely semantics, and the OP is probably referring to EM factory bikes, none of which were built by Eddy's hands...
The bikes not being built by Eddy's hands is irrelevant to me...we're talking about bikes associated with the EM factory.
09-27-10, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I'm probably being a snob, but calling a badged Falcon a Merckx is an insult to a Merckx and is a semantic game. ......
09-27-10, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sced
Eddy got paid. His picture is on the head tube. He was happy it was there. He probably blessed the torch that made some of them. How different is a "real" Merckx from a lot of other makes out there....not very. What more do you need to know?
09-27-10, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by old fat guy
too much talk.
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I don't recall having seen that one before. Even for a Merckx, that's a beauty.
09-27-10, 09:13 PM
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Now tell them your future plans for that Faema..
09-28-10, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen
Now tell them your future plans for that Faema..
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09-28-10, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen
Now tell them your future plans for that Faema..
09-28-10, 07:46 AM
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You have two!?!?! Both astonishingly well done, BTW.
09-28-10, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen
You have two!?!?! Both astonishingly well done, BTW.
The AZ bike is a 1985 Professional. The full pantographed bike is a rarer early 80's Professional, over the BB cable routing, flat fork crown. It is a true Faema Replica bike, as witnessed by the young Eddy foil badges. It has everything done right on it, down to the Everest freewheel and NOS Vittoria CX tubulars. I have swapped the stem and bars shown in the picture for a shorter Merckx pantographed stem and 64-40 bars. I even have a Merckx Faema musette that goes with it.
10-17-10, 01:15 PM
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70s Kessel Merckx Frame
I guess we can debate whether it is a Merckx or not 
, but sounds like Eddy used the Kessel for more years than most any other frame?, so it must have been ok? Now..this one needs some love for sure to get it back on-track, but it has a flat crown fork, Campy dropouts, etc., so it might just make for a nice project?
, but sounds like Eddy used the Kessel for more years than most any other frame?, so it must have been ok? Now..this one needs some love for sure to get it back on-track, but it has a flat crown fork, Campy dropouts, etc., so it might just make for a nice project?
10-17-10, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Belg-Ital Steel
I guess we can debate whether it is a Merckx or not , but sounds like Eddy used the Kessel for more years than most any other frame?, so it must have been ok? Now..this one needs some love for sure to get it back on-track, but it has a flat crown fork, Campy dropouts, etc., so it might just make for a nice project?
, but sounds like Eddy used the Kessel for more years than most any other frame?, so it must have been ok? Now..this one needs some love for sure to get it back on-track, but it has a flat crown fork, Campy dropouts, etc., so it might just make for a nice project?
10-17-10, 05:54 PM
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Here's mine..for those of you with a sense of humor. It's the only Merckx within my budget at the moment. It came with a bunch of old posters and bike parts that I got for a very reasonable price last week. It's fairly tattered, but some may consider that 'patina'
10-19-10, 07:27 AM
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10-19-10, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by maym036
I just Found this 10th Annicersary Bike (. https://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/...3dced7b57c3a0e ) and was wondering if anyone can Tell me Why the frame in the Link has a different Fork and than my 10th Ann. and is chromed on both Sides in the rear?
Thank you for any help!!
Thank you for any help!!
Unfortunately, it is way too big for me.
Here are some pics:
And my second one, a 1973 Kessels-Merckx:
10-19-10, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by martl
That is one of my 2 Merckx. Unfortunately, i can't help yu with your question. If you remove the fork, it has a sticker with a very exact production date on it, as you can see, mine was made on 18/12/89
Unfortunately, it is way too big for me.
Here are some pics:
Unfortunately, it is way too big for me.
Here are some pics:
Love that paint job.
10-19-10, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by martl
...Unfortunately, it is way too big for me.
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10-19-10, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by martl
its Seat tube is 61cm ct-ct, top tube length is 59cm ct-ct.
10-19-10, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by martl
its Seat tube is 61cm ct-ct, top tube length is 59cm ct-ct.
It is my size!
