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Old 04-29-15, 01:26 PM
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odd, sheldon says the super course was standard threading, but thats not the case on mine, which i believe is somewhere between 73 and 75... the headset is most definitely 26 tpi
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Unfortunately, Sheldon was wrong about that one. I've had a bunch of Super Courses and BB threading varied. Nobody's perfect.
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
odd, sheldon says the super course was standard threading, but thats not the case on mine, which i believe is somewhere between 73 and 75... the headset is most definitely 26 tpi
Mine was 26tpi, and I found that the steel tange headset has such a thin thread cross-section that it threaded on fine.
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Damn, could've sworn by those pictures it was going to be a 24" or 25" bike, but was a 23". Was in a hurry to get there and snag a good deal so I didn't press them to measure. But if you're in the market for a 23" Super Course, a '78 by my reckoning (had a 77 world champ sticker, Cyclone RD, 700c rims) for cheap, there's one in Commerce City, CO. Paint isn't great, but components are in relatively good shape, stem & seatpost aren't seized, all original (I think the saddle is? '78 didn't come with a brooks). Needs a good dose of TLC.
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I get the impression that Raleigh/Carlton in the early 70s was basically "whatever parts the assembler happens to grab out of the bin," hence all the varied information about threading on Super Courses. FWIW, my '73 is all standard.
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i'm willing to bet my bottom bracket is standard threading due to the non original crank, but i'm 100% certain that the headset is 26tpi, i posted another thread with a headset problem i was having, and part of the troubleshooting process was to try different cups, the only ones i have were standard, the standard ones only threaded two turns, but the original cup threaded on without any trouble.
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SC MK II in my size, original hoods in vg condition, and clean enough paint to be a keeper. Acquired at the Ann Arbor Bike Show and Swap on 4/16.

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Very jealous. Beautiful example. Those bars on the bottom left look verrry comfy.

Originally Posted by oddjob2
SC MK II in my size, original hoods in vg condition, and clean enough paint to be a keeper. Acquired at the Ann Arbor Bike Show and Swap on 4/16.

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Originally Posted by jmeb
Very jealous. Beautiful example. Those bars on the bottom left look verrry comfy.
Thanks, cleanest MK II I've ever picked up. Only 1 vendor had any sizeable stash of road bars, so for less than $10 each, from left to right, an SR, narrow Nitto, and Cinelli.
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Originally Posted by Mr IGH
A fellow rider has this one, looks to be a 1977, are the components original, esp the bar cons and brake levers/tape?
Didn't see any other responsess, so I'll try and answer some of your questions.It all looks original except the saddle, brake levers and tape, possibly the seat post as well.

Here's the 1977 catalog:
Retro Raleighs: The Super Course
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
i'm willing to bet my bottom bracket is standard threading due to the non original crank, but i'm 100% certain that the headset is 26tpi, i posted another thread with a headset problem i was having, and part of the troubleshooting process was to try different cups, the only ones i have were standard, the standard ones only threaded two turns, but the original cup threaded on without any trouble.
When putting our SC MKII back together I contemplated replacing the headset as the lower cup has a a bit of pitting, though not so much as to make it rough. I measured the threads on the steerer -- 26 tpi. If you look at the old SA catalogs and such from the 70s, you'll see that Raleigh had headsets in both 24 and 26 tpi. The common 26 tpi is the Patent 101. It's slightly different in appearance from a similar hs with 24 tpi.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
SC MK II in my size, original hoods in vg condition, and clean enough paint to be a keeper. Acquired at the Ann Arbor Bike Show and Swap on 4/16.

Looks to be very original. Still has the Huret rear derailleur and the Normandy hubs, I think. Looks to be equipped exactly as ours was new except yours appears to have an aluminum alloy seatpost. Ours had, and still does, a 26.2 mm straight post with a separate clamp on top. Looks like the same headset as ours, but I wouldn't stake much on that opinion just from a photo. The pedals on ours were different from yours, some inexpensive quill pedals with only "Made in England" on them. I serviced them the other day and put them on a Sports. May put them back on the SC MKII just to unFrank it a tad.

I've been putting some miles on ours -- it's a real great rider. Not very original, and yours appears to be in much better shape, but still, it's a great ride. SN on ours indicates February 74 manufacture.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
SC MK II in my size, original hoods in vg condition, and clean enough paint to be a keeper. Acquired at the Ann Arbor Bike Show and Swap on 4/16.

I can understand unloading a green and white bike in Ann Arbor; even a beaut like this one. Reminds me of a late 70's dark-blue one I bought and owned here, and then sold in Denver in '83.
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Originally Posted by BiciMan
I can understand unloading a green and white bike in Ann Arbor; even a beaut like this one. Reminds me of a late 70's dark-blue one I bought and owned here, and then sold in Denver in '83.
Never even thought of the Spartan color scheme. I have maize and blue too!

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Originally Posted by oddjob2
Never even thought of the Spartan color scheme. I have maize and blue too!

Fair is fair ; another nice one.
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Seller is claiming that the fork is original...did Super Courses ever come with fully chromed forks? Perhaps it was chrome + paint over and the paint has been peeled off? Need to get my first Super Course fix and this looks like a good candidate.

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SC fork was chromed up to the crown, though not particularly polished under the painted parts. Does that fork have fender eyelets? I can't tell from the pic. If not, it's definitely not original!
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Originally Posted by nlerner
SC fork was chromed up to the crown, though not particularly polished under the painted parts. Does that fork have fender eyelets? I can't tell from the pic. If not, it's definitely not original!
Great. Thank you for that tidbit to judge by. I can't tell from the photo either. Question then is...is it a bargaining point or a something that makes this a "pass".
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Originally Posted by jmeb
Great. Thank you for that tidbit to judge by. I can't tell from the photo either. Question then is...is it a bargaining point or a something that makes this a "pass".
Well, my concern would be that the fork was replaced because of a front-end crash. I'd check very carefully for wrinkles under the top and down tubes near the head tube.
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Well, my concern would be that the fork was replaced because of a front-end crash. I'd check very carefully for wrinkles under the top and down tubes near the head tube.
Exactly. Plus if its not original I'm not in such a rush that I can't wait for the right Super Course. I've got other projects I should be working on.
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Originally Posted by jmeb
Exactly. Plus if its not original I'm not in such a rush that I can't wait for the right Super Course. I've got other projects I should be working on.
With the shiny high flange hubs and the chromed fork, the eyelets, if present will be tough to see in that photo. I can barely make out the right-hand one on the Ann Arbor SC MKII earlier in the thread.

Looks like the bike has Simplex delrin front and rear derailleurs and it's a cottered crank, isn't it?

Nice looking bike in any event.
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I see he stripped the chrome off parts of the seat stays. Maybe he did the same on the fork. But the fork rake looks to be too small to be original. I could be wrong.

If the price is right, it's still worth buying. It looks to be a 1973 or 1974 model, based on the decals and equipment.
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Originally Posted by desconhecido
With the shiny high flange hubs and the chromed fork, the eyelets, if present will be tough to see in that photo. I can barely make out the right-hand one on the Ann Arbor SC MKII earlier in the thread.

Looks like the bike has Simplex delrin front and rear derailleurs and it's a cottered crank, isn't it?

Nice looking bike in any event.
It also looks like it has Capella lugs, which would make it from 1973, I believe.
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Here's one I found recently. I bought it as a parts donor to complete my '74 Gran Sport ( I needed the Normandy high flange hubs and Weinman rims).

Judging from the decals. oval anniversary badge and nervar crank, I think this is about a 1969 model. It seems pretty original accept for an upgrade to simplex retro-friction levers. I'm keeping the levers and wheel set and parting the rest out. Are these Nervex lugs?
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Originally Posted by pontius
Judging from the decals. oval anniversary badge and nervar crank, I think this is about a 1969 model. It seems pretty original accept for an upgrade to simplex retro-friction levers. I'm keeping the levers and wheel set and parting the rest out. Are these Nervex lugs?
Yup, Nervex lugs. Nice score for those shifters. I think it's a 1970 model based on those lugs and head badge. I actually scored one in the fall that I think is a '69--the lugs are not Nervex, and here's the head badge:

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