noglider 

Zaphod, that is becoming one of the most sophisticated Super Courses, ever.

auchencrow

Good thing I don't live too close to Winooski Vermont -or I'd probably be sniping at this one....
-It has Shimano 600 hubs, frame pump, and Huret DR's (but it's the dead(?) spider in the spokes that sold me.) At the moment it's $49.99 and no reserve.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

I'm sold for the crankset alone. My little bro is less than an hour from Winooski if one of you folks are bidding on that one let me know so I don't bid you up, but I think I might take a stab at it.


thanks for the compliments guys, The brake pads are 'Kool Stop Supra2' salmon compound. They fit up perfectly to weinmann centerpulls.

i really don't like that picture I took...the color is all blown out...gotta take some more later

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

Thanks, yeah that Burly is nearly the same shade as mine, just photographed properly.

noglider 

Zaphod, what is that bike?

noglider 

Speaking of Super Courses, I finally solved my creaking crank problem. It was hard to find. I took out the BB today. It's a Shimano UN-72, so I guess that means I now know that my Super Course has English threads, right?

There was a rusty layer of grease between the cups and the bearing. I cleaned it out and greased everything. The saying in Zaphod's signature turns out to be true.

Bikedued

2009 Raleigh Sojourn touring bike, and it looks 100% stock, from what I can see.

I was saying I wanted to paint my black Burley tandem, the same color as the Raleigh, but with a LOT of pearl in it. Much like that 1998 Lincoln color.,,,,BD

Bikedued

That green SC would SO be mine, if I had the cash. Looks nice, and looks to be a 60cm..,,,,BD

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

boy i really mixed that one up! its a cool color though, my only problem is that it always provokes me to correct people when someone calls it white. Its Cream. Or Creme...depending on how french I'm feeling.

Tom, I just got around to repacking the rear hub (the original Weinmann) on my SC tonight and it was caked with that same kind of nasty ancient grease you're talking about...cleaned it out, new bearings and a fistful of grease and its a smooth operator now. Honestly I'd like to blame my poor performance on that bike of late to the awful condition that the rear hub bearings were in...i don't know if that's accurate or not but I'd like to do that. I'll see tomorrow if its a noticeable difference...it should be, when I pulled the rear wheel off I could barely turn the axle by hand. I was sure the races would be toast but somehow they were not bad and it all went back together.

noglider 

The cones on the Normandy hub were not precision ground, but the steel was fairly hard, so they were moderately durable hubs.

I doubt you'll feel the difference, but maybe.

Bikedued

More than moderately durable! I have cleaned out some Normandy hubs that felt completely ruined, and they're smooth as glass after. We're talking gritty, overtightened, brown tar dried grease here. I've run into clean late eighties hubs with more pitted/galled cups and cones.,,,,BD

auchencrow

Uh oh!
- I just answered an ad for a cheap 10-speed Schwinn, and stumbled on yet another nice Super Course. This one, a 1972, in Bronze-Green:



It has Script logos, Nervex lugs, 1st gen Shimano Dura Ace crank, a DA Front DR, Suntour Power Shifters, Laprade micro-adjust post, and a Huret Challenger rear DR. It had a Brooks-ectomy before I got to it. It has Weinmann brakes and concave rims, and Normandy hubs.

It just needs a good cleaning and overhaul…

I was thinking I would keep this one, and sell my ’73 (also in Bronze-Green) with Capella lugs, Shimano 600EX Ultegra crank, and light action DR’s - but now am debating just what to do.

I’m curious: What would you do? Sell, keep, or swap components?

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

Dura-Ace on a Super Course! very cool. I love the combination of Dura Ace and Huret RD

If you're gonna sell it swap on a different crankset and FD.

Whatever you do keep that crankset for yourself or sell it separate on eBay, don't sell it with the bike

I'm curious, is the BB Dura-Ace or Raleigh or Something else? If its a raleigh BB that means its a replacement spindle because if its a '72 it would have come with cottered cranks. Cool find, do you mind if I ask how much?

auchencrow

Hi Zaphod -
- I guess there is something weird about the Huret-DA combination - but I won't know what it is till I try it out. The bike has been sitting and the brake shoes are like rocks, so it'll have to wait till I can refurb this thing.

I won't know what BB I have either, until I tear it down - I'll let you know then.

Thanks for the caution on retaining the DA crank - I should have a nice crank or two I could substitute, if I go that route. (It kind of seems like it belongs on this bike though... )

If I don't sell this bike, than certainly I will have to get rid of one more of my other bikes.
I just have too many bikes - and I need more room for flips - (Of course, buying flips is exactly how I ended up with too many bikes - I'm not sure it's possible to have too many SC's though )

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

incidentally I may be coming into the same problem as you....I'm looking at picking up another SC (also in my size) next weekend.

I was thinking I might have to just flip it but now I'm thinking I might tear down the Varsity grocery-getter and move that stuff over to this new SC and make it a Super Grocery-Getter

auchencrow

There are some great examples of that right here in this thread. A SC is up to whatever duty you put upon it!

tugrul

Is the spindle the same 113mm on a Super Course as it would be on a period 126mm spacing bike for 600EX?

auchencrow

Hi tugrul -
You would think I would be able to answer this question since I have both a SC and a Dawes with a Shimano 600EX Ultegra crank - but alas I can not.
I purchased the SC with one already installed, and even when I put a new one on my Dawes I never bothered to measure it.

Sheldon's bb chart calls for a 113-115 bb length, so I assume that is about what they are. I confess I don't know what you mean by a "period 126mm spacing for 600EX".

tugrul

I was referring to the rear hub spacing. I thought 600EX stuff went on 6/7 speed 126mm bikes, and the Super Course has 120mm spacing?

auchencrow

Yes- these old SC's normally are spaced to 120mm, and the Ultegra 6400 crank was specific to a 6-7 speed.

My red '73 SC with the Ultegra crank has 126 spacing and likely was cold set to accommodate a 6 speed FW.
My green '73 SC likewise is at 126 with a Sakae-SX crank, and a 6 speed FW - (It too was probably cold set.)
My coffee '72 SC retains the 120mm rear spacing with the original cottered crank, and a compact 6 speed HG FW.
This green '72 SC still has the 120mm rear spacing, a 5 speed FW and the DA crank.

When I installed the Ultegra crank on my Dawes, I replaced the (original?) 7-speed corn cob with a HG 6 speed FW. It has 130 spacing, and a pretty big space where the 7th cog used to be.

So I think a 600-Ultegra 6400 crank will work with almost any 5,6, or 7 speed back there. It's more important to be sure the axle adequately engages the dropouts. YMMV.

PS - IMHO, the Ultegra crank has a nice look to it too - a little modern, but not too much so for the SC.

tugrul

Heh, I didn't remember at first there were two 600EX generations. I was going to put a 6200 series crank on there until something more suitable came along, or I decide to expand my repertoire to cotters.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

I Just failed to win this auction

Part of me thinks I should have gone higher but most of me is just hoping that the winner who has 0 feedback defaults and I get a second chance offer

noglider 

Nice specimen and good price, but what would you do with another one?

Bikedued

At one point I had SIX Super Course's. There's always room for one more, hehe.,,,,BD

sailorbenjamin

Who got it?