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Old 03-28-10, 09:35 PM
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Anybody ever ship to Aussieland?

Just sold a frame and fork and the buyer is in Australia.
I have shipped small items to various overseas locations but never like this
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there's a postal service there too so i'm sure it'll be fine!
i currently live in New Zealand and post all over the shop and receive stuff from the US and other places
no big deal
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cool
I read that shipping large parcels there is expensive
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You're screwed. 79" total girth limit for Priority mail to Australia, which is too small to fit a frame. Has to go Global Express, which will come out $300- $400.
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You're screwed

Not me! The buyer will pay total shipping but I hope they had a clue before they bid!
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How about with FedEx? UPS?

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I don't know the actual address Kurt so I used Perth as a estimate..... Fedex was +500 USD WOW!
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ive only ever shipped smaller stuff to aus, although Id figure those estimates are high, more like 70-80 Id think, Ive shipped to UK, Germany, SA, Taiwan, and US, and ive never seen prices like that.

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it does seem weird, it's not like japan is that much closer that the shipping would be so much cheaper
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Originally Posted by soonerbills View Post
I don't know the actual address Kurt so I used Perth as a estimate..... Fedex was +500 USD WOW!
Perth is 'the other side', so I'm going to presume that anything on the eastern side (Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane) will be a lot cheaper. Maybe this bloke will be happy with surface mail? Takes a month or two, but a truck load cheaper.
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Originally Posted by soonerbills View Post
Just sold a frame and fork and the buyer is in Australia.
I have shipped small items to various overseas locations but never like this
If you pack it carefully you can fit within the dimensional restrictions. The same dimensions apply to domestic parcels in Australia, and I've never had a problem sending or receiving frames here, and never had one damaged.
Parcel rates (Australia to US,20kg) https://auspost.com.au/apps/international-parcel.html
Dimensions https://auspost.com.au/personal/parcel-dimensions.html

Fedex and UPS have something of a reputation for demanding "Customs charges" etc. before delivery but they usually back down when queried (or so I'm told).
Maybe you should send it to Britain, then post from there to Oz...a British based retailer sends complete bikes in a box to Oz for $AUD107.
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I have shipped to Australia, from Canada, and it used to be quite expensive. Today it is really expensive! Parcel post will not work since the max package size is too small to accommodate a bike frame set. FedEx will want hundreds of dollars, as will any other shipping company. And...

If your customer does actually fork over five hundred dollars to have the frame shipped, you must make sure the frame set is spotless! Any dirt and Australian Customs just might insist the the frame set be professionally cleaned and then rest in quarantine for thirty days. This is a pain, believe me and a costly one at that.

My guess is your customer will back out of the deal unless he or she can hide the shipping cost in some other shipment.

Good luck with this.
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I'm shipping some stuff to Australia currently. Just a quick warning that ebay's shipping calculator is not accurate. I typed in the package dimensions and was quoted a USPS price that turned out to be $40 less than what the USPS website told me. Ouch. I'm going to eat that amount since I had already quoted shipping to my bidder. The USPS price quoted on ebay was for a specific box size, and not the size of my particular package, even though I typed the exact dimensions into their calculator. Thanks ebay!
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He or she sent me a note saying they think the shipping should be $50!
I think this is going to be a mess....I should have known better................
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Originally Posted by Ragooch View Post
You're screwed. 79" total girth limit for Priority mail to Australia, which is too small to fit a frame. Has to go Global Express, which will come out $300- $400.
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You're screwed

Not me! The buyer will pay total shipping but I hope they had a clue before they bid!
Wrong attitude. As a seller your partialy responsible for knowing how much it is to ship your product. Seriously, how many sellers (outside of Ebay) say, we dont know, we'll bill you after it ships.




Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
How about with FedEx? UPS?

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Originally Posted by JonnyHK View Post
Perth is 'the other side', so I'm going to presume that anything on the eastern side (Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane) will be a lot cheaper. Maybe this bloke will be happy with surface mail? Takes a month or two, but a truck load cheaper.
If it dont fit in the box it dont fit in the box. Shipping ot Australia is NEVER cheap and there isnt a cheap way to send there.
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Originally Posted by Fidelista View Post
If you pack it carefully you can fit within the dimensional restrictions. The same dimensions apply to domestic parcels in Australia, and I've never had a problem sending or receiving frames here, and never had one damaged.
Parcel rates (Australia to US,20kg) https://auspost.com.au/apps/international-parcel.html
Dimensions https://auspost.com.au/personal/parcel-dimensions.html

Fedex and UPS have something of a reputation for demanding "Customs charges" etc. before delivery but they usually back down when queried (or so I'm told).
Maybe you should send it to Britain, then post from there to Oz...a British based retailer sends complete bikes in a box to Oz for $AUD107.
No offence to you or other Australians but I never listen to customers in the receiving country in regards to shipping charges. Canadians, Japanese, Australians, green Martians. Never. They all know shipping expensive and they all give a song and a dance.
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Originally Posted by soonerbills View Post
He or she sent me a note saying they think the shipping should be $50!
I think this is going to be a mess....I should have known better................
I've paid more than that for courier delivery of a frame within Australia.The buyer should compare postal rates...he'd be lucky to post a frame within Australia for that.
I won a frame on ebay for $AUD10 (only bidder)...seller was unhappy and refused to post it and insisted on courier delivery. I told him to keep the courier delivery price and post it and pocket the difference, but he still wouldn't do it.
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I shipped a 58cm frame and fork to Australia. $297
The box was cut as small as possible, and the post office lady gave me a full 1" break on the restrictions.
The post office uses Fed Ex in Australia, or they did then.

The buyer did not like it, and as above, "quoted" much lower rates.
I adv he was more than welcome to bring hisself here and box and ship it himself, see if he could do it cheaper. In hindsight, I'd have kept that Merlin.

I've had this happen 3 times, all to Australia, and each time the buyer was adamant that shipping was reasonable.
Either they're misinformed, sneaky, or feel like money out of my pocket is negotiable.
Doesn't matter. I don't ship there.

On a much smaller scale, Canada can be the same way, but the buyers usually let you know up front, and I work to avoid Priority Mail, keep the packages small, and try to get it there reasonably. Even a Pay if Forward there can run pretty high...
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It's news to me that Australia Post uses Fedex to deliver parcels here. I've certainly never seen or heard of that one. Maybe USPS sends parcels by Fedex?
Australia Post (and possibly USPS) will apply postage based on dimensions rather than actual weight for relatively large and lightweight parcels. Possibly your buyers are checking the USPS site and looking in the wrong place, hence the confusion.
I was looking at a derailleur from the US last year, with a quoted shipping price of $US58. Needless to say, I immediately lost interest. I bought one a couple of days later from a British seller...postage was $AUD11.00 and it arrived 4 days later.

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Just for comparison, here's the cost of shipping a complete bike Britain/Australia, around the same distance as say New York/Australia.
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/BasketDisplay.aspx $AUD.
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Australian shipping charges are notoriously high. I've seen more than one US seller who simply flat out refuses to ship full frames and bikes there. Any complaints from the recipients need to be taken with a very large grain of salt.
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+2 Disregard buyer's estimate of shipping. Its going to be high, really high.

When in doubt, Randy Jawa ships a lot of bikes, all over the world. His experience should be an excellent guide.

One good work around to someone who is adamant: have them purchase a USA address off ebay. You can get them for $1. These addresses are sold by mail box etc., UPS stores, etc, and then they will professionally ship the bike all over the world. The buyer "expert" can work out his shipping with people in that business. I have never used one of these sites, but there are a lot of them on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/USA-MAIL-ADDRESS...item4cedffdf03
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Originally Posted by Poguemahone View Post
Australian shipping charges are notoriously high. I've seen more than one US seller who simply flat out refuses to ship full frames and bikes there. Any complaints from the recipients need to be taken with a very large grain of salt.
I think you meant "US shipping charges to Australia". Australia Post charges to the US are lower than USPS or Fedex,UPS etc.
European charges are even lower.
Mostly, I think the difference is down to the exchange rates. Check out the Wiggle link...$AUD100 to post (Through British Postal service)a complete bike to Australia and it will arrive in a week or so. I waited 3 weeks to get a parcel from the States (and I paid the highest rate for it) and the quickest I've ever had a parcel from the USA was 2 weeks. Usually, it's about 6 weeks by Surface Mail. The longest I've ever had to wait for a parcel from Europe was 10 days (and the postage was around %20 of the same item from the USA.
Don't blame us for the shortcomings of your postal/shipping services.

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I've shipped two EM frames set to Australia and had a bit of a problem getting the boxes down to the dimensions specified, but if you get the "right" person at the post office you'll be fine. Just get it to the smallest possible size and take it to them. If they accept it, them you're good to go. It took me a few trips until I got a clerk who just "overlooked the size and took it. Good luck!
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Well the post office quoted me $375 via global express...I could not get the frame into the 79" box because it is a super huge frame (63.5CM) and it ended up just meeting the 108" maximum. I sent the buyer the quote and told him we could cancel if he wants...Should I ask for my Ebay fees? Would you?
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