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Old 04-05-10, 09:29 AM
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Need help identifing old bike

Need help identifying old bike
Hello Forum Members. My name is Mike and I am from Nashville. This is my first post to the forum. I need some help identifying an old bike I am about to restore. Just doing this for fun so the value doesn’t matter much to me but I would like it to be right. The bike is now completely tore down and I have looked for any slight evidence of brand name but have failed to find any hint anywhere. The only marking were a serial number on the bottom of the frame.

Any help will be appreciated and hopefully another vintage bike has made it back in the world and away from the junk pile.




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Old 04-05-10, 09:32 AM
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The picture is really small, but it looks like an AMF.
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Old 04-05-10, 09:34 AM
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Sorry about the small pic, I am going to try and take some better ones tonight. I did find on the tires where it says "Sears Allstate Nylon" Does that help?
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Old 04-05-10, 09:48 AM
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Sorry about the small pic, I am going to try and take some better ones tonight. I did find on the tires where it says "Sears Allstate Nylon" Does that help?
Not especially, other than to suggest the bike may have been sold through Sears. Get a photo of the chainwheel, the front fork crown, and the rear wheel drop outs. Those are usually the best things to look at when identifying an American made bike.
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Old 04-05-10, 10:03 AM
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Will take better photos tonight and re-post. Also, what is the recommended way to strip the bike? Should I sand blast, paint striper, etc??? The original paint is gone so there is no value to be lost in that way. I doubt the bike is worth much anyway so I don't want to pay out allot of money to have someone sodablast it or something like that but I do want to do a good job.
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Old 04-05-10, 08:54 PM
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Here you go guys, tried to take some shots of things I thought would help indentify this beast. Thanks in advance for the help..





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Old 04-05-10, 09:15 PM
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Well I was wrong about it being an AMF, it certainly is not one.

I'm going to lean toward Murray or Rollfast based on the brazed construction and the pattern of the chainwheel.
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I would like to know for sure I guess so I can dig up a front emblem and put it back on the bike. Of course a paint scheme would be wonderful too if I only knew what I had ) Hopefully someone else will chime in and help a newbie out. Thank you for helping on this. I did get allot of the chrome cleaned up tonight, amazing what a wire wheel will do on my die grinder...

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I did some looking around and a Murray sure is close but the chainwheel is a little different and also, the chain gaurd on a Murray seems to be diiferent as well. I could not find a Rollfast that looked like my frame, hummmm Kinda bumbed out.
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Old 04-28-10, 07:00 AM
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Well, it's mostly done for now. I still would like to do some decals and maybe a stripe or two to finish it off.

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Well, it's mostly done for now. I still would like to do some decals and maybe a stripe or two to finish it off.

Look great. Good work!
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Based on the fact that the tires had "Sears Allstate Nylon" written on them; I think what you have is a Sears bike built by Murray. If that is correct, it would have had Sears stickers on it, and not Murray.

It almost looks like a Spaceliner without the headlights and tail lights. Main difference is fewer slots in the chainwheel and the shape of the chain guard. Here is an example in excellent shape; more pictures in the link below it:



https://collection.rydjor.com/bikecollection/1962sea.htm

https://collection.rydjor.com/bikecol...n/1962sea1.htm

Murray built bikes for other companies as well; and tires are most likely not original. So, it may have originally been badged for another brand, besides Murray itself, Murray also made bikes under the Belknap, Firestone, Western Flyer (Western Auto) and JC Higgins brands. (My first bike was a Western Flyer just like this, sans rear rack and tank.)

Here is a 1960s Fleet Wing made by Murray, notice the chainring and rear rack match. The Fleet Wing was the Spaceliner built for another brand; the Western Flyer was called the Cosmic Flyer, and the Higgins (later Sears) offering was called the FlightLiner.



The Sears Flightliner bicycle was one level down from the Spaceliner offered by Sears that year; notice the fork is a perfect match:



More Murray pictures here:

https://www.nostalgic.net/search/murray.htm

A very nice restoration; enjoy your new ride.

-James
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Old 04-28-10, 02:30 PM
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I'd say you have a Murray built sears bike from the late 50's or 60's. It looks like the chaingaurd may be from another JC Higgins. It looks like the ones used on earlier JC Higgins like my colorflow. If you can check out the "Evolution of the Bicycle" books. There are some nice pictures of Sears bikes in there.

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Old 04-28-10, 02:46 PM
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Thank you guys. It was fun making her nice. I'm working on a Western Flyer Cosmic Flyer right now. I am missing the hubcap if ya'll have one laying around you want to sell. Thanks
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